[00:23:06] hmm [02:50:26] i'm trying to get a script to load on startup as part of my custom skin [02:50:33] but it seems to load really late [02:51:16] i've got position: top in the skin.json, and i see it in the modules to load near the top, but the script still seems to run near the end of processing [03:04:15] any resourceloader experts who can help? [04:03:55] Weekends. [04:05:22] UserProd: Is the code waiting for document ready? [04:05:53] I don't think top position guarantees executing early, just loading early. [04:09:29] Leah: not sure [04:09:31] how do i check that [04:09:41] i can send you the link to see the problem? [04:10:57] Good night bye too much of the best way celebrate holiday. [04:25:32] i'm working ont he 1.25 to 1.26 upgrade of the skin, and in 1.25 it loaded right at the beginning, but in 1.26 it's loading after about 1s [05:25:57] I'm probably not the best person to ask. [05:26:01] But you can link to the code in here, sure. [05:35:16] i'll come back tomorrow and see if anyone else is available [05:35:27] thnx for trying :) [06:27:56] HELLO WORLD, FROM GCI15 [06:28:25] Hello pedodoge. No need to shout. [06:29:11] o/ pedodoge [06:30:10] oh hi devs [06:30:18] hi guys [06:30:25] (: [06:30:53] i asked you yesterday [06:31:42] can i install media wiki on cpanel [06:31:56] and you said / yes ! [06:32:21] but i can't [06:36:08] i have't root access to Cpanel [06:36:15] Still can ? [06:37:54] Hi AbedSHP. [06:38:11] Installing MediaWiki with cPanel is maybe possible, but probably annoying. [06:43:00] just ftp the files up and run the web installer [06:45:18] so true , but does't work [06:45:36] as you can see [06:45:38] http://rbc.co.ir/wikirail/mediawiki-1.17.5/mw-config/index.php?page=Welcome [06:45:56] Warning: Could not find eAccelerator, APC, XCache or WinCache. [06:46:12] i can't install [06:46:13] eAccelerator [06:46:17] APC [06:46:25] XCache or WinCache [06:47:10] ugh thats a cache system issue [06:48:27] how can i do ? [06:53:00] please help me/ [06:53:39] issue install media Wiki on Cpanel Step to Step [07:05:53] nothing ? [07:10:07] this moment .are,150 online ? [07:54:53] OMG ! four year i'm waiting for answer XD [08:30:30] Hello everyone! Pleased to meet you, I am Collin doing GCI15. [12:52:46] paladox: Hey if you have time we could do the skin thing again ^^ [12:53:02] Aebian: Yes ok. [12:53:07] Thanks for reminding me. [12:53:27] sure no problem [12:54:08] I already edited the CSS again so that the place for the image would be present. https://wiki.aebian.org/wiki/Landing_Area [12:55:10] Aebian: Ok. So you want the login button where. [13:00:44] paladox: below the actual image then. So: Main Menu >> Image (https://assets-cdn.aebian.org/aebian.org/Train_Small.jpg) >> Login Button below that Image [13:20:40] paladox: also it seems that my MainMenu is missing the red color overlay while the item is active and the border is missing on the active item too ^^ [13:21:01] Aebian: Ok. [13:21:42] Aebian: Where would you like the login bit to go. Which bit and where to locate it under. [13:23:17] hi :D [13:24:04] that is generally discussed in this forum? [13:25:02] paladox: https://img.aebian.org/Aebian_Project__Wiki_-_Google_Chrome_2016-01-17_14_2016-01-17_14-24-34.png [13:25:05] someone online? [13:25:51] Aebian: Ok. So you want search to be moved to the footer. [13:25:53] too. [13:26:16] paladox: no not footer but below the actual MainMenu Image [13:26:31] Aebian: Ok. Just login by footer. [13:26:55] Aebian: Please visit https://en.random-wikisaur.tk/wiki/Main_Page where i am testing the changes. [13:27:33] paladox: the login stuff a little bit below the image and thats fine [13:27:51] Aebian: Ok. [13:29:08] Looks like it is coming along well, Aebian. [13:29:30] Aebian: That login bit will be tricky since the more content you have on the page the more the page you have to scroll meaning if the login in was under neth the footer then it would be in the content. Since we would need to duplicate vector to be able to move login. [13:29:47] Trela: yeah I got some awesome help here ^^ [13:30:52] paladox: oh uhm well hmm [13:31:16] Aebian: I think we maybe be able to move it but im not sure how too. [13:59:29] paladox: hmm okay [14:00:13] Aebian: Ok please have a look at https://en.random-wikisaur.tk/wiki/Main_Page i have changed a few things and hope you like it. I moved the login in to below the image. [14:01:35] paladox: thats okay but the Mainmenu doesn't lokk like: https://aebian.org/stories/default :X [14:01:50] paladox: the rest is okay but the MainMenu :D [14:02:49] Aebian: Ok do you mean the image and the text isent what it is like on https://aebian.org/stories/default [14:03:12] Aebian: Or do you mean the button at the top that isent showing red. [14:03:35] paladox: the button and the little space between the image and the Mainmenu [14:03:50] paladox: there is a kinda 1mm gap [14:04:02] Aebian: Ok. [14:25:27] Aebian: Could you please have another look at https://en.random-wikisaur.tk/wiki/Main_Page i have fixed the button not showing the colour red. [14:30:18] paladox: thats okay but the image is moving into the Mainmenu thats not good ^^ [14:31:06] paladox: the MainMenu should look like this: https://img.aebian.org/Stories__Aebian_Projects_-_Google_Chrome_2016-01-17_15-30-48.png [14:31:21] paladox: but the rest is fine ^^ [15:03:39] Aebian: Please merge https://github.com/Aebian/AebianTheme/pull/8 [15:05:30] Hi people. A well-known way to manage sorting is DEFAULTSORT. But — maybe — there is some way to ignore symbols when sortings categories? [15:06:11] Say, to sort «Ivan» as Ivan, and to sort «Drug store» as Drug store? [15:37:59] paladox: looks better but the mainMenu is still missing the space between so that the Active

Item is not in the image (https://wiki.aebian.org) [15:38:50] paladox: but overall much thanks for the help in that matter ^^ [15:45:47] s [15:45:50] sssssss [15:45:52] sss [15:46:04] tem alguém aqui? [15:46:57] There is someone here? [15:47:47] !ask | NewWiki [15:47:47] NewWiki: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [15:50:03] Aebian: Please merge https://github.com/Aebian/AebianTheme/pull/9 [15:50:14] install Xampp and MediaWiki in Windows XP? [15:53:47] NewWiki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki_on_XAMPP [15:55:39] * Platonides reminds NewWiki that Windows XP is an unsupported OS with many security holes [15:58:32] maybe not does installing [15:59:29] ? [15:59:53] maybe not does installing, I do not know, thank you [16:01:36] if you know if there is a way of installing on Windows XP, maybe not does installing, thank you [16:01:52] "maybe not does installing" doesn't make sens :s [16:01:56] NewWiki: Platonides and I speak Spanish, and you seem to talk Portuguese. If the language is a barrier, since both languages are quite close, we may better understand you if you talk in Portuguese? [16:03:17] paladox: thats aersome but mazbe mz ezes are broken but the

item seems to be different then the one on mz home page. I think its missing a 1px border_ [16:03:21] ? [16:03:33] eu escrevo em português [16:03:59] paladox: }awesome [16:04:03] Aebian: Yes it is missing the 1px border because it added | to the image so it was showing on the right and was in white which did not look nice. [16:04:24] no I mean [16:04:55] paladox: https://img.aebian.org/Stories__Aebian_Projects_-_Google_Chrome_2016-01-17_17-04-50.png [16:04:58] that one [16:05:07] on the left and right [16:05:16] Aebian: ok. [16:05:34] not the big one below but the light grey on the left and right [16:07:05] I write in Portuguese, bye [16:07:16] bye [16:13:38] Aebian: Please merge https://github.com/Aebian/AebianTheme/pull/10 [16:16:26] paladox: its like 99% like my website but not 100% I [16:16:33] I'm not sure whats missing [16:16:34] but [16:16:39] lets keep it the way it is [16:16:45] Aebian: Ok. [16:16:47] thanks for the help [16:17:04] thats awesome [16:17:22] Aebian: Ok. [16:20:53] Hi people. A well-known way to manage sorting is DEFAULTSORT. But — maybe — there is some way to ignore symbols when sortings categories? Say, to sort «Ivan» as Ivan, and to sort «Food store» as Food store? [16:21:41] PMZ_: what do you mean by sorting? pages should be sorted already as you said [16:22:13] All the pages that start with quotation symbol are in a group for the quotation symbol. [16:22:29] The page «Food store» goes to «, not to F. [16:22:41] NB: Quotation mark is in the page name. [16:22:42] ah, quotes are part of the page name... [16:22:48] Yeah. [16:24:09] I doubt there's a general way to do that other than DEFAULTSORT or [[Category:x|Food store]] [16:26:15] Pity to know that each page has to keep DEFAULTSORT. [16:26:54] don't use quotes on page titles :) [16:31:57] PMZ_: maybe you can fiddle with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation [16:33:56] Vulpix_: Moral values prohibit me from this way. [18:27:53] I am using googlespeed insights and the following issue has been identified: [18:27:54] Eliminate render-blocking JavaScript and CSS in above-the-fold content Your page has 1 blocking CSS resources. This causes a delay in rendering your page. None of the above-the-fold content on your page could be rendered without waiting for the following resources to load. Try to defer or asynchronously load blocking resources, or inline the critical portions of those resources directly in the HTML. Optimize CSS Delivery of the [18:28:40] it says https://wiki.gamepaduniverse.com/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=mediawiki.ui.button%2Cicon%7Cskins.minerva.base.reset%2Cstyles%7Cskins.minerva.content.styles%7Cskins.minerva.mainPage.styles%7Cskins.minerva.tablet.styles&only=styles&skin=minerva&target=mobile is blocked [18:28:54] what does this text even mean [18:29:41] thanks in advance for your help [19:11:02] sneezeonme do you know how browsers actually transform html, css, and js into a page viewable by humans ? [19:11:39] (it is central to explaining what that tool says) [19:14:18] if you do, in short : painting is waiting for the css to load before happening ; displaying the content will be deferred until the css is loaded ; this is actually a good thing since loading css after content will lead to repainting, which is not comfortable for the human viewing the page while loading ;) [19:16:32] sneezeonme : sane way is to load css before html body ; and to run js (regardless of whether is is loaded before or after the body) after html body has been fully loaded (and painted), which is what's happening here [19:16:50] Alphos: in short i should i do nothing? [19:17:05] thanks for the explanation [19:17:11] in short, exactly :) [19:17:22] it seems like i don't need to correct anything, right? [19:17:28] yes! [19:17:30] thank you!!!! [19:17:38] there is some debate as to whether js should be loaded (not run) before or after body : that debate is completely moot [19:18:19] what matters when it comes to JS is that it's *run* after html body has been loaded, not when js is being loaded [19:18:32] Is this site suppose to be down? [19:18:33] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki [19:18:45] works for me [19:19:59] ugh, says error connection refused [19:20:55] odd... [19:24:14] bad proxy? [19:26:42] possible [19:27:22] debugging that kind of thing without having the hand on the machine is a bit of a headache though :D [20:44:54] Can someone please help me get /wiki/$1 from /wiki/index.php?title=$1 I read through documentation but I'm still lost. [20:45:17] !shorturl [20:45:17] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at or try the new beta tool at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [20:45:17] paladox: I found the error. On the wiki on the navbar its missing nav>li>a{line-height:1.6em; font-size:1em;} [20:45:59] Repton: nginx or apache? ^^ [20:46:04] iirc, it doesn't work well to try to use the same thing for the first part of the url [20:46:07] Aebian: Oh. [20:46:18] nginx. [20:46:38] yeah, having both /wiki/$1 and /wiki/index.php?title=$1is not recommended [20:47:30] Then what I do not want index.php?title=$1 [20:48:09] you can rewrite for example /mediawiki/index.php?title=$1 to /wiki/$1 [20:48:34] or /wiki/index.php?title=$1 to /w/$1 [20:48:46] Ok [20:48:52] Aebian: It has that css. [20:49:27] one is virtual URL, other is physical URL, having both on the same path is problematic if you don't take special care of all paths [20:51:40] Okay I found my nginx.conf file. [20:52:11] I think I'll try to make /w/$1 instead then. [20:53:41] oh I'm using nginx too Repton. I'll checkl my config [20:55:06] Repton: well you need to edit the vhost of your wiki to add the changes [20:55:47] Where's that? [20:56:41] Repton: default location would be /etc/nginx/sites-available or so [20:56:58] Okay. [20:57:22] Repton: /etc/nginx/sites-* something in that folders [20:57:52] there should be a file that is your "virtual host" file to tell nginx where the root of your wiki folder is and whats the url called [20:59:39] Repton: In my case it looks like this: https://dl.aebian.org/test.txt [20:59:55] Ugh can't find it which means I'm stuck with that ugly url. [21:00:17] Repton: own server? ^^ [21:00:37] I don't think so? [21:01:14] Repton: I mean are you on a shared hosting or do you have your own server ? [21:01:36] I think I have my own? [21:01:53] Repton: well then do a "ls -la /etc/nginx/sites-available/" [21:02:25] in your terminal thats connected to the server [21:02:42] and if something is in there you should see it [21:05:54] oh lol [21:11:35] talking with the walls? :P [21:13:36] Vulpix: kinda [21:14:47] paladox: yes I see its in the screen.less hmm weird that its not getting applied to the browser view :' [21:14:54] *:| [21:15:48] Aebian: Oh i think it is. Because when i try adding the css it is crossed out indicating it is being overitten somewhere else. [21:17:05] paladox: hmm thats bad :D [21:17:25] Aebian: Ok. [21:24:47] paladox: do you know maybe a fix for this? :D [21:56:58] Hm https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20170101000000&limit=500&contribs=user&target=Shirayuki&namespace=14&tagfilter=&newOnly=1 [21:59:24] is translating $1 really necessary on those categories? [23:56:48] I'm trying to migrate my custom skin to 1.26 resourceloader, but one of the main components of the skin is loading really late [23:56:54] i've got position: top in the skin.json, and i see it in the modules to load near the top, but the script still seems to run near the end of processing [23:58:30] FOUC?