[00:06:49] TheDaveRoss: it's at languages/data/Names.php now [00:12:07] How do I get a [[File:]] contain href? [00:12:27] *How do I get a [[File:]] to contain an href? [00:16:16] bff, you want to link to a file instead of including it? [00:16:56] MaxSem: No, I want the picture to display but when someone click on it to redirect to a different page [00:17:31] [[File:...|link=pagename]] [00:20:16] MaxSem:Thank you so much! I use the wikieditor extension and just assuming it displayed all the options for that...you know what they say about assume?... [03:58:59] hi, I have troubles changing wiki time zone [03:59:34] neither method mentioned in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Timezone worked [04:00:18] I tried the primary method and alternative method [04:00:38] server time is +1 and but wiki time is still UTC [04:00:57] any idea? [04:01:15] root__: Did you change your time zone in your account preferences too? It will compensate to match. [04:02:25] Trela: I did but when I do {{#time: T}} it shows UTC [04:04:58] hm it shows UTC on mw wiki with a different time zone too.. [04:05:05] *wm [04:05:32] I think you have to specify user time or something. I have not played with the parser tags that much in those regards. [04:07:46] Trela: it's not about it, server time is still wrong in my case [04:08:15] Did you restart your server and PHP processes after making the changes? [04:08:30] no [04:09:23] but my server time is not utc, it's utc+1 [04:09:27] PHP-FPM may not automatically pick up new settings in the php.ini file if it is not restarted. [04:09:59] my server time is good, it's only that mediawiki has a different time than server time, which is strange [04:13:31] Not sure I know the answer to this one without sticking my hands into your server. [04:15:33] ok I had no date.timezone set in php.ini could it be the problem? [04:15:52] I thought server time is system time [04:16:12] PHP will default to UTC if it is not explicitly set. [04:16:30] ok that can be the problem, I'll restart apache [04:17:40] hm but no change, something else to do except restart apache? [04:18:29] Apache would restart it's PHP module automatically unless you were running it separately.(Unlikely) [04:19:46] php.ini: date.timezone = "Europe/Prague" but mediawiki server time UTC :( [04:26:57] Question, is there any news on whether RTRC will stay as a mw gadget or turn into a mw extension? [04:42:28] codynguyen1116: My team is looking into the possibility of doing something vaguely like that in the summer, but no firm plans just yet [04:44:26] ah, gotcha [04:45:13] But still a "no promises" thing at this point [04:46:15] We are casting very interested looks in the directions of RTRC and ORES though, as we're interested in edit review / anti-vandalism things [04:51:22] hm alright [04:51:42] sounds interesting, is there a phabricator discussion about this? [04:52:22] *Looks up RTRC.* That looks amazing. :O [10:10:45] Hi, I am new to MediaMonkey - Is there a regular manual available anywhere? I find the online help useless... [10:12:09] well this is the support channel for MediaWiki, not MediaMonkey for a start [10:12:38] sorry - like I said I am new here - MediaMonkey's help page sent me here... [10:13:42] http://www.mediamonkey.com/support/ this might be more suited [13:23:27] hi, system time is utc+1, php.ini time is utc+1, I have this time zone in LocalSettings.php set but the wiki internal time is still utc, any idea what may be wrong? [13:33:52] why can't you just change the default user tz [13:35:50] Hello71: what to you mean? [13:36:14] I set $wgLocaltimezone [13:59:44] pravn: *internal* time (as stored in database tables) is UTC and you can't change that [14:00:15] you can change the displayed time, though, in page history, recent changes, etc [14:35:40] hi [14:36:27] can I learn who the fuck is the person responsible for the stupid redesign of the API sandbox and how do I return to the old design so I once again have a place where I can build my API queries? [14:37:41] git blame [14:38:03] also, try to remain civil :) [14:38:46] you could probably also find a discussion of it in phabricator [14:38:59] what civility can be there when I go to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox to build an API query and what I find is some stupid hard-to-use thing instead of normal page I know [14:40:16] RobotsOnDrugs: do you by chance know what task the discussion is in? [14:40:25] i have no idea [14:40:58] ok I'll just file a new task and let bug wrangler to merge it into the proper place [14:41:08] thanks for response [14:41:16] apparently, there is a mailing list for the api, so you can try searching there too [14:45:22] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128277 [14:55:35] having a strange issue. I just followed the instructions for upgrading from 1.25 to 1.26. I copied the new files over. I ran update.php from the command line (no errors). When I navigate to https://mywiki.com/Special:Version It says i'm still on 1.25 [14:56:24] gregf: maybe the page is cached, try adding a random query string at the end of the URL [14:56:49] Hello everyone [14:56:55] I have a question, regarding Template:Languages. [14:57:06] Vulpix: nope [14:57:35] I have an article which has translations, but when I click on the Hungarian version... well, see for yourselves: http://ways-of-darkness.sonck.nl/King_Tondbert_I_of_Etrand http://ways-of-darkness.sonck.nl/King_Tondbert_I_of_Etrand/hu [14:58:41] gregf: also instructions say to not copy files *over* the old installation, but on a new directory, and then rename the old and new directory [14:58:42] On the English-language page, it recognizes the non-English translations, but once I click on the link for the non-English version, it pretends that it's the English version. [14:59:31] In case anyone is asking, I have imported this template (and all its dependencies) - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Languages [15:01:14] Is there any solution to this problem? [15:02:12] Vulpix: figured it out, thanks for the help [15:06:29] Am I asking for help in the right place? [15:07:47] Metalhead33: Apparently there are some templates missing [15:07:55] Oh... [15:08:15] Metalhead33: editing one page gives red links for Template:GetFallback and Template:GetFallback2, not sure if they're involved in that language thing [15:11:10] I imported those two now, but nothing changed [15:11:40] When I go to "King_Tondbert_I_of_Etrand/hu", why does it pretend that the page is in English when it's not? [15:11:46] try a null-edit on those pages [15:11:54] I mean, the template is supposed to recognize the "/hu" parts [15:11:57] I already purged them [15:13:54] The problem is that it doesn't recognize "King_Tondbert_I_of_Etrand/hu" as the Hungarian translation of "King_Tondbert_I_of_Etrand", and keeps looking for "King_Tondbert_I_of_Etrand/hu/hu" or something [15:16:03] The only thing I can do is string-subtraction, it seems. [15:16:41] {{BASEPAGENAME}} of "King Tondbert I of Etrand/hu" contains the /hu part... [15:17:16] Yes, it does. [15:17:27] Yet, the template doesn't recognize it. [15:17:28] wondering if it has something to do with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages [15:17:54] in order for it to work, {{BASEPAGENAME}} shouldn't return /hu [15:19:04] I guess {{BASEPAGENAME}} does take $wgNamespacesWithSubpages into account [15:19:57] ah yes, finally [15:20:04] it works now [15:20:09] Thank you [15:20:26] yw, so you changed $wgNamespacesWithSubpages ? [15:21:05] Yes [15:45:50] Vulpix: ok [15:46:07] Vulpix: {{#time works with UTC? [18:39:26] Is there an equivalent of $wgWhitelistRead for pages which can be edited anonymously? [18:41:08] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Whitelist_Pages [18:41:39] monttyle: Will that work for you? [18:41:55] monttyle: Be careful though, mixing view restrictions with edit restrictions can be dangerous [18:42:26] (e.g. Users can include templates on pages, and all sorts of things like that, which you have to watch out for) [18:42:44] codynguyen1116: That just modifies the read whitelist [18:43:54] I mean, I don't want to edit the whitelist. I want a whitelist which lists pages to edit anonymously [18:48:45] Or any particular method for having one page, and only one page, which can be edited anonymously [18:50:59] Sorry, looks like I can't help you [18:51:36] monttyle: You might have to write your own UserCan hook to do that [18:51:40] !hook UserCan [18:51:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/UserCan [18:51:49] that's the wrong page [18:52:01] The only other extension I found related was Extension:Whitelist (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WhiteList) but you'll have to read further into the docs and see what it does since I haven't used this extension before [18:52:15] !hook userCan [18:52:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/userCan [18:52:46] Thank you both :) [19:00:26] Just giving it the ability to edit doesn't make the edit tab appear apparently [19:09:54] This looks promising: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditSubpages [19:11:10] monttyle: Edit tab is controlled by the "quick" user premission checks. So if you only added an "expensive" user permission check allowing editing, then it wouldn't cause the edit tab to appear [19:11:51] Right. That extension looks like exactly what I had in mind though, a list of pages which can be anonymously edited. Crossing fingers. [19:17:08] It works. [19:23:25] monttyle: sweet +1 [20:43:01] Afternoon all. [20:43:09] Anyone here familiar with DPL parameters? [20:47:57] hi [20:49:08] i have some problem about Azerbaijani wiktionary [20:50:38] What's the problem [20:50:50] (That's both to aabdullayev851 and ElmerG ) [20:51:29] with side bar [20:51:42] i want change left menu [20:51:45] I was trying to find out if there was a way to make a table have a default sort method when called as a sortable wikitable by DPL. [20:52:06] I'm using the 3rd party once. [20:52:09] *one [20:52:26] !sidebar | aabdullayev851 [20:52:26] aabdullayev851: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit page [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] on your wiki using its special syntax (see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar for details). If you need more control, you can use the SkinBuildSidebar hook (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinBuildSidebar). [20:52:51] hmm /me only really knows about the wikimedia version of that extension [20:53:42] * ElmerG nods. Even at that point, it might point me in the right direction; al ot of the syntax I've seen seems to be consistent across both, or at least what little DPL sorting I do. [20:54:10] [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] deleted [20:58:39] ok I restore it [20:59:39] ElmerG: Have you tried ordermethod ? [21:01:02] no. [21:01:30] how i can protect [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] [21:01:32] ? [21:05:19] aabdullayev851: Its automatically protected [21:05:45] Every page starting with the words MediaWiki: is always protected (and cannot be unprotected) [21:06:50] ok [21:07:09] but i didn`t understand second method [21:07:34] Second method doesn't apply to Wikimedia wikis [21:08:16] ok [21:08:44] second problem about prefixes [21:12:21] bawolff??? [21:12:44] I don't understand the question? What is it you're trying to do? [21:13:43] i have some problem with prefixes also [21:13:49] how i can change it? [21:13:57] I don't know what you mean by "prefixes" [21:15:13] fore example in [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] MediaWiki is prefix [21:15:16] right? [21:15:48] what you're referring to are called namespaces [21:16:06] What's the issue you are having with them? [21:16:12] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces [21:16:30] Somepages is Wiktionary some pages is Vikilüğət [21:16:50] What language was this again? [21:16:59] I mean language code [21:17:27] az [21:18:39] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces#Localisation [21:18:57] i think i have to request on Phabricator [21:19:16] Do you have an example of a page where its namespace is "Wiktionary:" ? [21:19:32] https://az.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:K%C9%99nd_meydan%C4%B1 [21:20:11] https://az.wiktionary.org/wiki/Vikil%C3%BC%C4%9F%C9%99t:%C4%B0dar%C9%99%C3%A7i_namiz%C9%99di/Aabdullayev851 [21:21:02] ok, so MediaWiki doesn't recognize Vikilüğət as a namespace name [21:21:19] You do need to file a request in phabricator [21:21:37] Ask for "Vikilüğət" to be the localization of NS_PROJECT [21:22:11] What mean NS_PROJECT? [21:24:18] some namespace is translated to Azerbaijani language but some of them didn't [21:26:53] aabdullayev851: NS_PROJECT is just tech speak for the namespace with the same name as the project [21:27:52] how i can change it? [21:29:18] Just file a request at https://phabriactor.wikimedia.org [22:54:40] Okay guys. I have an ancient install of mediawiki 1.18 and want to update it to 1.26. How many hoops is this gonna entail for data migration and stuff? hopefully I can follow standard upgrade procedure? [22:56:42] probably your biggest hurdle will be dealing with extensions, but otherwise, it depends [22:57:43] look over the changelogs, upgrade, update/replace extensions, and test [22:58:21] and then put together a plan to do upgrades more often so that you have less to deal with each time