[11:28:02] <patrakov>	 Hi. My organization has a MediaWiki instance in Amazon (Ubuntu, MariaDB). I got a complaint that it is sometimes very slow in China, and a request to get a server in China to fight this problem. The plan is to use master-master replication for the db and glusterfs for files such as images. Does this make sense, or should I just say "no" because mediawiki is not supposed to be used this way?
[11:28:54] <patrakov>	 again - the goal is to be able to access the same wiki content from any of these two servers
[13:20:38] <Vivaporius>	 Hello.
[13:52:46] <kuri_>	 hi is anybody here who can help me?
[13:58:13] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 kuri_: there are lots of people here and no one can answer a question that hasn't been asked
[13:59:02] <kuri_>	 ok i just wanted to be sure that there is someone reading this chat ;)
[14:00:48] <RobotsOnDrugs>	 people are not always looking, but the messages don't go away
[14:01:30] <kuri_>	 I am having an issue, when using the mw-editsection function i get on my wiki page something like this [Bearbeiten</a>]<a href="#"><!--Nach oben o. ⇑--> ↑</a>]. This bug has come after my Wiki got updated to 1.25 and it didnt disappear with 1.26
[14:02:51] <pity>	 Hi guys, I use VisualEditor, but I always get 'AccessDeniedError: Your wiki requires a logged-in account to access the API.' I followed https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Troubleshooting but I still get this. Any ideas?
[14:02:53] <kuri_>	 Now I expect that there is some kind of To the top link inside the edit part which shouldnt be there, but i cant figure out where to look at it
[14:07:14] <kuri_>	 maybe someone has an idea or had a similar bug before?
[14:12:45] <Auger>	 morning
[15:56:24] <DarkFeather>	 Hello, all, anyone have experience with multiple wiki's on a single host?
[15:57:39] <Reedy>	 Many people will have
[15:58:38] <DarkFeather>	 So, here's a question. If I manually make the databases in PostgreSQL, can I symlink the contents of /usr/share/webapps/mediawiki/ save for the LocalSettings.php?
[16:05:18] <DarkFeather>	 I'm asking because my package manager only handles one install. 
[16:06:33] <Reedy>	 We generally don't reccommend to use a package manager
[16:06:40] <Reedy>	 for MW itself
[16:07:05] <DarkFeather>	 Why's that?
[16:07:30] <Reedy>	 !package
[16:07:30] <wm-bot>	 Many Linux distributions provide MediaWiki in a packaged format for that distro. These packages typically contain obsolete & unsupported versions of MediaWiki; they also like to move around & change files, & do other super-counterproductive things. You'll get the best support here if you install MediaWiki directly from one of our tarballs - https://www.mediawiki.org/ - or Git https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git
[16:09:13] <DarkFeather>	 Hmm. Arch is just a little behind. 
[16:09:23] <DarkFeather>	 1.26-1 is what they have in the repo.
[16:11:02] <DarkFeather>	 Alright. So, I have a backup of the database and LocalSettings.php. Is there anything else I should preserve?
[16:11:48] <Reedy>	 Any uploads too
[16:11:52] <Reedy>	 !backup
[16:11:52] <wm-bot>	 See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki for information about backing up your wiki. For restoring your wiki, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki#Import_the_database_backup for more. If you don't have database access, try !grabber.
[16:12:50] <DarkFeather>	 No file uploads of note, but I can look there. Thanks. I'll convert it back to local package install... This is the second package I have to manually manage -_-;
[16:56:24] <DeathBurst>	 hello
[16:59:07] <andre__>	 hi DeathBurst
[17:04:21] <DeathBurst>	 I've got 2 questions
[17:05:02] <DeathBurst>	 1/ "MediaWiki automatically checks if the target of a wikilink exists ("existence detection")." (from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Link#Wikilinks ) --> how does that work, and what table are accessed during this check ?
[17:06:39] <DeathBurst>	 and 2/ pagelinks take a page_id in pl_from, but different revisions of a same page may not all contain a given link, so is pagelinks supposed to be always relative to the latest revision, or something like that ?
[17:12:48] <DeathBurst>	 so regarding 1/, I just found it's implemented in Linker.php, but I can't find what tables are accessed
[17:13:32] <Reedy>	 pagelinks
[17:13:36] <Reedy>	 "Track page-to-page hyperlinks within the wiki."
[17:15:02] <MatmaRex>	 re 2/, yes.
[17:15:33] <Reedy>	 For 2/ there may be some job queue related delay
[17:21:24] <DeathBurst>	 Reedy: pagelinks doesn't contain any attribute indicating if the target page exist or not
[17:21:37] <DeathBurst>	 actually, the doc even states that the target page may not exist
[17:21:42] <Reedy>	 Indeed
[17:21:54] <DeathBurst>	 so you can't know if the link should be red or blue by looking at pagelinks
[17:22:05] <DeathBurst>	 or did i miss something ,
[17:22:08] <DeathBurst>	 ?
[17:22:23] <Reedy>	 Join to the page table?
[17:22:29] <Reedy>	 (LEFT) JOIN
[17:23:22] <DeathBurst>	 so there is a big request to page just to check the existence of links every time a page is displayed ?
[17:24:12] <DeathBurst>	 i thought the old brokenlinks table (nowdeprecated) was used precisely to avoid that
[17:24:36] <Reedy>	 Deprecated?
[17:24:41] <Reedy>	 That's not existed for a long time
[17:24:59] <Reedy>	 If you do indexed joins, they're comparitively cheaper
[17:26:03] <DeathBurst>	 ok
[17:26:09] <DeathBurst>	 tanks for the info :)
[21:21:15] <Bill_>	 How do I delete a page I just created on MediaWiki by mistake?
[21:22:54] <Vulpix>	 add {{Speedy}} to it
[21:23:11] <Vulpix>	 or wait a bit to see if someone here with sysop rights deletes it
[21:24:10] <Bill_>	 Does anyone here have sysop rights that can delete a page for me?
[21:24:20] <James_F>	 Bill_: Which wiki?
[21:24:36] <Bill_>	 Can I give you this info privately?
[21:24:41] <James_F>	 Sure.
[21:25:10] <Bill_>	 I'm a newbie.  How do we do a private chat?
[21:25:26] <James_F>	 Bill_: `/query James_F`
[21:25:33] <James_F>	 Without the quotes. :-)
[22:46:26] <mediator>	 I have CirrusSearch from git but when I run my wiki lots of errors are shown
[22:46:32] <mediator>	 Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Exception' with message '/var/www/mediawiki/extensions/CirrusSearch/extension.json does not exist!' in /var/www/mediawiki/includes/registration/ExtensionRegistry.php:106 Stack trace: #0 /var/www/mediawiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(169): ExtensionRegistry->queue('/var/www/mediaw...') #1 /var/www/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php(102): wfLoadExtension('CirrusSearch') #2 /var
[22:46:38] <mediator>	 /www/mediawiki/includes/WebStart.php(120): require_once('/var/www/mediaw...') #3 /var/www/mediawiki/index.php(40): require('/var/www/mediaw...') #4 {main} thrown in /var/www/mediawiki/includes/registration/ExtensionRegistry.php on line 106
[22:46:42] <mediator>	 any idea?
[22:47:20] <Reedy>	 Yeah
[22:47:36] <Reedy>	 Don't use wfLoadExtension() for CirrusSearch
[22:47:41] <mediator>	 huh I changed it to call it via require_once
[22:47:47] <mediator>	 and now only one error:
[22:47:51] <mediator>	 Fatal error: Class 'CirrusSearch\CommonTermsQueryProfiles' not found in /var/www/mediawiki/extensions/CirrusSearch/includes/Hooks.php on line 115
[22:48:17] <mediator>	 ?
[22:48:25] <Reedy>	 CommonTermsQueryProfiles isn't autoloaded
[22:48:30] <Reedy>	 Let me make a patch to fix it
[22:48:57] <mediator>	 Reedy: would you upload it to git?
[22:49:07] <Reedy>	 Yeah, that's the point of making a patch :)
[22:49:20] <mediator>	 Reedy: thank you :)
[22:49:40] <mediator>	 I'll uninstall the extension for now
[22:50:17] <Reedy>	 Looks like all the profiles aren't autoloaded
[22:50:43] <mediator>	 no idea, I just try to run it for the first time, no experience with it so far :)
[22:53:13] <mediator>	 Reedy: gotta go now, see you later :)
[22:53:17] <Reedy>	 require_once __DIR__ . "/profiles/SuggestProfiles.php";
[22:53:17] <Reedy>	 require_once __DIR__ . "/profiles/PhraseSuggesterProfiles.php";
[22:53:18] <Reedy>	 require_once __DIR__ . "/profiles/CommonTermsQueryProfiles.php";
[22:53:18] <Reedy>	 require_once __DIR__ . "/profiles/RescoreProfiles.php";
[22:53:18] <Reedy>	 require_once __DIR__ . "/profiles/SimilarityProfiles.php";
[22:53:21] * Reedy squints