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[03:53:00] <Trela>	 o.o
[07:53:42] <FrankJ>	 Anyone can help guide me through the installation and setup of mediawiki? I am apparently getting some odd behavior, which easily could be error 40.
[08:35:23] <andre__>	 FrankJ: what steps did you perform, and what is the exact error you get?
[08:39:26] <FrankJ>	 Ok, talk out here or in pm?
[08:39:31] <FrankJ>	 Thanks
[08:39:36] <FrankJ>	 :)
[08:41:12] <FrankJ>	 The first step I can't find information on, is how to install mde
[08:41:13] <FrankJ>	 ed
[08:41:56] <FrankJ>	 mediawiki in the root directory of a domain and if simply mv command is sufficent? (I am not very good at linux sadly)
[09:08:26] <andre__>	 FrankJ: Have you checked https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation_guide ?
[09:10:22] <FrankJ>	 yes, I am following that guide
[09:13:38] <FrankJ>	 It is just giving me some trouble along the way
[09:13:55] <andre__>	 like what exactly?
[09:14:01] <andre__>	 at which step are you? what is your setup?
[09:14:14] <andre__>	 The more specific your question is, the more likely someone here can help :)
[09:15:31] <FrankJ>	 Like moving the install to root directory. I don't know if the mv command is sufficent. This is on Centos linux (dedicated machine)
[09:17:52] <andre__>	 FrankJ: why would you want to do that?
[09:18:06] <andre__>	 FrankJ, and that implies that you already *did* install if there is something to "move"?
[09:19:08] <FrankJ>	 yes. I got to the final stages, where I got 500 errors. None of the fixes help and I am a bit stomped
[09:19:48] <FrankJ>	 I could do a subdirectory, but I would prefer if the URLs were as short as possible xxxx.com/<articlename>
[09:20:59] <andre__>	 if you get 500 errors, check your server log and tell us which file/URL is affected
[09:21:08] <andre__>	 plus which MW version, which webserver software etc
[09:21:22] <andre__>	 which exact "fixes" have you tried that did not help?
[09:21:55] <andre__>	 "could do a subdirectory" refers to the URL? Or to the folder tree on the server?
[09:23:44] <andre__>	 (I'm repeating myself, but the more specific you are, the more likely someone here can help you.)
[09:26:03] <FrankJ>	 mw newest build, CentOS 6. It refers to URL, not folder tree, but not sure if you can make xxxx.com/wiki/index.php into xxxx.com/index.php
[09:26:46] <FrankJ>	 I have trouble finding the correct data in the logs, so I am hoping to get it installed correctly first, then check the 500 errors if they still persist
[09:27:03] <p858snake>	 FrankJ: don't move, use a rewrite eg: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#URL_like_-_example.com.2FPage_title
[09:28:14] <FrankJ>	 Also, the server uses litespeed as an apache "replacement"
[09:30:19] <FrankJ>	 Ok, you're right, installing in root directory isn't a good idea as such it seems
[09:41:05] <FrankJ>	 Another first problem, is that without moving the files, I am stuck with a /mediawiki-256
[09:41:43] <FrankJ>	 a /mediawiki-1.26.3/ directory
[09:45:50] <FrankJ>	 Can I move the files then or do I need to do something else when unpacking it (i am 
[09:46:21] <FrankJ>	 unpacking it to a specific directory, which still gives me /mediawiki-1.26.3/ directory
[10:25:11] <FrankJ>	 ok, still stomped. I download and unpack the file just fine, but when i run /maintenance/install.php i get a 403 error regardless of ownersship or permissions
[10:51:02] <andre__>	 How do you "run" that? What does your webserver log say about that 403?
[12:27:45] <peace3>	 Hello everyone :)
[12:27:46] <peace3>	 Is there any plugin/extension for mediawiki and AWS S3 ?
[12:28:40] <peace3>	 Actually I want to store images on S3 and use them in my wiki
[12:28:48] <peace3>	 Help is really appreciated :)
[12:32:12] <peace3>	 @parent5446 ^^^^^^
[12:32:14] <andre__>	 peace3, no idea how supported https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AWS is
[12:36:25] <peace3>	 andre__ parent5446 here is the trace http://pastebin.com/vgUqyfBi
[12:36:31] <peace3>	 please help!
[13:47:06] <parent5446>	 peace3: do you have all of the necessary LocalSettings.php stuff mentioned on the extension page? The traceback makes it sound like the AmazonS3 file repo is not configured.
[13:47:26] <parent5446>	 Ah he's already gone
[14:15:00] <Auger>	 morning
[14:32:59] <zezheng>	 hi chat
[16:46:39] <Ulfr_>	 I feel as though I might be losing my mind. Correct me if I'm wrong but there's no DB significant modifications made if a user logs into MW, correct?
[16:49:02] <bawolff>	 Ulfr_: Depends on config
[16:49:24] <bawolff>	 Is $wgMainCacheType set to CACHE_DB? Is session set to be stored in database
[16:49:49] <bawolff>	 And extensions can of course do all sorts of things
[16:51:48] <Ulfr_>	 bawolff: Correct, but without deliberately installing software to do it, there's no real record of who logged in or logged off when in core MW software
[16:52:27] <bawolff>	 Not really no
[16:52:54] <bawolff>	 Well when someone logs in they will get a session added. It may or may not be stored in db, but it will be stored somewhere
[16:53:15] <bawolff>	 And we semi-record failed login attempts if you have cache enabled
[16:54:06] <Ulfr_>	 well, yeah. I'm just working with another group of people who are telling me I have to have downtime at 1pm EST because they want database continuity
[16:54:14] <Ulfr_>	 And I have no idea what they're on about
[16:55:09] <Ulfr_>	 I just wanted to make sure I wasn't losing what few vestiges of my mind I have left
[16:57:23] <Ulfr_>	 bawolff: Thank you!
[16:58:50] <bawolff>	 If your db is going into read only mode, I'd reccomend setting $wgReadOnlyMode = true; (Or whatever the config variable is)
[16:59:19] <bawolff>	 Which actually doesn't entirely stop mediawiki from trying to make writes, but stops most, and makes the error message nicer
[16:59:57] <Ulfr_>	 That was my plan. It turns out mediawiki REALLY doesn't like it when you just kill the mysql service
[17:01:25] <bawolff>	 If your database is actually going away, things will fail
[17:01:38] <bawolff>	 Hard to show pages without a db to get the page contents from
[17:04:21] <Ulfr_>	 In my defense *I* didn't do it, amazon decided my box needed rebooting without restarting my mysql service at like, 3 in the morning :(
[19:52:18] <ShakespeareFan00>	 Hi people
[19:52:22] <ShakespeareFan00>	 I have a problem
[19:52:43] <ShakespeareFan00>	 I'm trying to get a list of my old edits on Wikipedia
[19:55:24] <MatmaRex>	 hi
[20:01:22] <andre__>	 ShakespeareFan00: which Wikipedia and what does "old" mean? Certain timeframe? Different user account name?
[20:01:28] <andre__>	 via API? via browser?
[20:01:54] <ShakespeareFan00>	 User;Sfan00_IMG  enwikipedia
[20:02:01] <ShakespeareFan00>	 post 2010
[20:02:17] <ShakespeareFan00>	 And File namespace under certain conditions
[20:02:24] <ShakespeareFan00>	 And preferably via Quarry
[20:12:55] <hypergrove>	 Up grading from MW 1.25 to MW 1.26 -- performance is horrible! -- please see http://apaste.info/tuq
[20:13:59] <hypergrove>	 no extensions loaded exc semanticmediawiki, that's all
[20:14:29] <Reedy>	 Is one cached vs uncached?
[20:15:02] <hypergrove>	 no, same localsettings
[20:15:31] <hypergrove>	 http://bpw.belltower.wiki/Special:Version is the MW 1.25.1 version, and I can switch it to the MW 1.26.3 version and reload apache
[20:16:55] <hypergrove>	 I copied the 1.25 database tables into a separate 1.26 database, and then did the update against the 1.26 database
[20:17:28] <MatmaRex>	 you might have something like memcached configured for MW to use, but not actually working. MW is trying to connect to it and times out after a few seconds, causing the delay you see
[20:18:16] <MatmaRex>	 (or redis, or whatever, there's like a dozen things which could potentially behave like that)
[20:18:42] <hypergrove>	 true, memcache is on for both versions.... something changed in 1.26?
[20:19:15] <MatmaRex>	 hypergrove: or it might be some entirely different issue. but this is worth checking.
[20:19:41] <hypergrove>	 MatmaRex, should i turn caching off for the 1.26 version?
[20:20:09] <MatmaRex>	 not permanently ;)
[20:23:06] <hypergrove>	 MatmaRex, turned off caching, now the 1.26 version appears at http://bpw.belltower.wiki/Special:Version
[20:24:49] <MaxSem>	 aha, so now it's faster
[20:24:54] <hypergrove>	 MatmaRex, turning off the cache seems to be the issue -- why? -- i note that 1.26 retrieves special:version in 2.67s vs 1.25's 4.69s
[20:26:01] <hypergrove>	 i thought the cache is about speeding it up ... so it's counter intuitive that turning it off speeds it up
[20:26:01] <MatmaRex>	 hypergrove: my guess is like i said – you have configured MediaWiki to use some some caching system, but the caching system itself is not set up or down
[20:26:20] <MatmaRex>	 MediaWiki tries to use it, waits a few seconds for it to respond, then goes on without using it
[20:26:53] <MaxSem>	 also: on a single-server setup, APC should work faster than memcached
[20:27:03] <hypergrove>	 hmm, how can i tell if it is up or down?
[20:27:31] <hypergrove>	 hmm, how can i tell if memcached is up or down?
[20:28:17] <hypergrove>	 i dont see it listed in service --status-all
[20:31:26] <hypergrove>	 thanks MatmaRex, i'll work with this now. ttyl