[02:34:24] <joshuar_>	 Can anyone one help me connect my wiki to my mathoid server? 
[02:34:38] <joshuar_>	 $wgMathMathMLUrl= "serv0x00:10044/";
[02:34:47] <joshuar_>	 $wgMathFullRestbaseURL= "serv0x00:10044/";
[02:35:08] <joshuar_>	 I don't understand the difference between these two URLs, should they be the same?
[02:35:25] <joshuar_>	 serv0x00 is an internal host name (the name of my server).
[02:35:55] <joshuar_>	  curl -d 'q=E=mc^2' localhost:10044
[02:36:11] <joshuar_>	 seems to work exactly as this page says: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mathoid#Testing
[02:36:41] <joshuar_>	 So I'm confident that mathoid is working -- but I'm not sure how to set the wiki to use it. 
[02:38:25] <joshuar_>	 When I add the http:// prefix I get this error: 
[02:38:30] <joshuar_>	 Failed to parse (MathML with SVG or PNG fallback (recommended for modern browsers and accessibility tools): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "http://serv0x00:10044/v1/":): {\displaystyle \frac{x}{gy^2}}
[02:41:43] <p858snake|L_>	 joshuar_: is it running on the same box as mediawiki? just use localhost:10044 in that case?
[02:43:35] <joshuar_>	 I tried that too and got the same result. But I'll do it again. 
[02:44:39] <joshuar_>	 I made that change: 
[02:44:43] <joshuar_>	 Failed to parse (MathML with SVG or PNG fallback (recommended for modern browsers and accessibility tools): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "http://localhost:10044/v1/":): {\displaystyle \frac{x}{gy^2}}
[02:46:27] <joshuar_>	 I don't understand why the suffix "/v1/" is attached
[02:48:24] <joshuar_>	 I think if it wasn't added it might work. 
[03:03:04] <joshuar_>	 Besides having a mathoid server, should I also have a Restbase server?
[04:17:00] <joshuar_>	 Does mediawiki need "restbase"?
[04:17:07] <joshuar_>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/restbase#restbase--
[05:51:00] <Krenair>	 no joshuar_ 
[05:51:17] <Krenair>	 extensions may require it
[05:58:24] <CZauX>	 I figured out the secret. onRecentChange_save that is the event to create a 'recent changes' sidebar
[05:58:35] <CZauX>	 The one that will actually update when you edit a page
[08:32:27] <joshuar_>	 I still don't get the relationship between $wgMathFullRestbaseURL and mathoid. 
[08:32:35] <joshuar_>	 What is the relationship between $wgMathFullRestbaseURL and mathoid, exactly?
[08:32:49] <joshuar_>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Math#What_is_the_relationship_between_.24wgMathFullRestbaseURL_and_mathoid.2C_exactly.3F
[08:33:05] <joshuar_>	 Haven't found any answers online.
[08:40:51] <Glaisher>	 joshuar_: What do you currently have in $wgMathFullRestbaseURL?
[08:43:06] <joshuar_>	 $wgMathFullRestbaseURL= 'https://api.formulasearchengine.com/';
[08:43:22] <joshuar_>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math#Configuration
[08:43:32] <joshuar_>	 This works. But that's not my server. lol. 
[08:46:03] <Glaisher>	 Do you have a Mathoid server set up locally?
[08:46:19] <joshuar_>	 Yes. And from what I can tell, it works.
[08:46:37] <joshuar_>	 It responds if I use the curl on mediawiki wiki.
[08:46:56] <Glaisher>	 And it doesn't work if you set it in the config?
[08:46:57] <joshuar_>	  curl -d 'q=E=mc^2' localhost:10044
[08:47:18] <joshuar_>	 If I use "localhost:10044" it doesn't work. I'll try it again. 
[08:49:07] <joshuar_>	 I tried to preview an equation "x^2" and I got this: 
[08:49:10] <joshuar_>	 Exception encountered, of type "UnexpectedValueException"
[08:49:11] <joshuar_>	 [32a89fb50fefc7fc86f720c2] /wiki/index.php?title=Quadratic_Formula&action=submit UnexpectedValueException from line 192 of /var/www/html/wiki/includes/libs/virtualrest/VirtualRESTServiceClient.php: Path 'localhost:10044/v1/media/math/check/tex' has no service.
[08:49:29] <joshuar_>	 $wgMathFullRestbaseURL= "localhost:10044/";
[08:50:13] <joshuar_>	 Then I try it with the http:// prefix. $wgMathFullRestbaseURL= "http://localhost:10044/";
[08:50:29] <joshuar_>	 Failed to parse (MathML with SVG or PNG fallback (recommended for modern browsers and accessibility tools): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "http://localhost:10044/v1/":): {\displaystyle x^2}
[08:51:49] <joshuar_>	 I noticed it adds "/v1" to the end. 
[08:52:04] <joshuar_>	 I don't know if this is a bug. Should I report it as such?
[08:52:30] <joshuar_>	 Or is this expected behavior. I don't know the difference between these two URLs. I think I'm unknowingly misuing it. 
[08:52:41] <joshuar_>	 $wgMathMathMLUrl= "localhost:10044/";
[08:52:50] <joshuar_>	 $wgMathMathMLUrl= "localhost:10044/";
[08:53:07] <joshuar_>	 $wgMathFullRestbaseURL= "http://localhost:10044/";
[08:53:19] <joshuar_>	 Sorry, that duplicate was a typo.
[08:55:43] <Glaisher>	 wmf-config has two different values for those.
[08:57:45] <joshuar_>	 Where do I see those values?
[08:57:56] <joshuar_>	 Do you have a link?
[08:59:55] <Glaisher>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-mediawiki-config/blob/master/wmf-config/CommonSettings.php#L2314-L2327
[09:00:09] <Glaisher>	 'http://mathoid.svc.eqiad.wmnet:10042' is $wgMathMLUrl
[09:02:15] <joshuar_>	 I think I can npm install restbase. But the instructions don't seem to say anything about it. 
[09:52:59] <p858snake|L_>	 the math documentation has some public servers you can point to iirc
[09:55:12] <joshuar_>	 Oh. Ok. 
[09:55:42] <joshuar_>	 If I installed mathoid myself though (and want to make use of it), how do I set that up?
[09:57:52] <p858snake|L_>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math#Configuration
[09:59:45] <joshuar_>	 Yeah - if I use that it works, but I installed mathoid. 
[09:59:53] <joshuar_>	 lol, so there was no point in doing that?
[10:06:22] <joshuar_>	 Thanks for the link. 
[13:16:24] <sourabh>	 hello
[15:29:53] <nyuszika7h>	 I have a problem, on my wiki, after a few, the rest of the images from Commons will not load
[15:30:06] <nyuszika7h>	 they just show up as (blue) links, they are shown when clicking through
[16:30:33] <Nemo_bis>	 nyuszika7h: you need to improve parsing speed
[16:30:46] <Nemo_bis>	 Try https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Performance_tuning
[16:38:53] <Skizzerz>	 o.
[16:38:55] <Skizzerz>	 o.O
[16:39:14] <Skizzerz>	 that's an incredible leap of logic; that behavior could be any number of things
[16:40:13] <Skizzerz>	 "parsing speed" notably *not* being one of those things from my experience
[16:42:21] <Skizzerz>	 nyuszika7h: is your wiki public?
[18:15:11] <nyuszika7h>	 Skizzerz: it is now (didn't really have anything secret there anyway)
[18:15:17] <nyuszika7h>	 https://flarar.cadoth.net/wiki/Tini:_El_gran_cambio_de_Violetta
[18:53:36] <joshuar>	 If I have my own mathoid server, do I need "restbase"?
[20:34:04] <porton>	 How does WikiData work? Can I add "data" features to my own MediaWiki installation?
[20:35:42] <porton>	 ... for example, I want to mark pages at my wiki as "rough draft", "first draft", "second draft". How to do this?
[20:35:55] <shmn01>	 hello?
[20:36:01] <shmn01>	 i need some help with a navbox
[20:36:29] <shmn01>	 because of the way i have stuff formatted, i need more than 20 spaces in the navbox
[20:36:43] <shmn01>	 however, anything past 20 refuses to load
[20:37:27] <shmn01>	 is there a way i can manually edit the navbox to make it work past 20?