[02:18:59] <Vulpix>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Module:Version is failing now that there are two lts versions :(
[02:20:30] <Vulpix>	 apparently legoktm fixed it but it still displays 1.27 for lts (that's right but now it should display 1.23 until a new non-lts version is released)
[02:21:31] <Vulpix>	 the "problem" appears here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download
[03:35:11] <bd808>	 legoktm: I think I fixed the issue with Module:Version that Vulpix pointed out above -- https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Version&oldid=2175631
[03:36:43] <bd808>	 Now I wonder if https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download should show 1.27.0 as stable/LTS or something
[09:09:40] <Benny_boy>	 Hi. I’m having a problem when trying to run mw_config on MW 1.27.0. I get a blank browser window and the following error in my apache log: PHP Fatal error:  Class 'Wikimedia\\Assert\\Assert' not found in /var/www/Wiki_test/includes/Services/ServiceContainer.php on line 139. Any ideas?
[09:10:50] <Benny_boy>	 The apache site setup is unchanged from when I was running 1.27 Alpha, so that shold not be the problem.
[09:11:02] <Reedy>	 Have you run composer first?
[09:11:45] <Benny_boy>	 I have not. Is that a new part of the installation? Never had to do that before and the installation instructions on the site do not mention this.
[09:12:22] <Reedy>	 It's not very new... It's been necessary for a few versions now
[09:12:46] <p858snake>	 its only needed on git installs
[09:12:55] <Reedy>	 Well, that sucks
[09:12:56] <p858snake>	 if you are running tarballs it should be fine
[09:13:22] <Reedy>	 Benny_boy: How did you install MediaWiki?
[09:13:35] <Benny_boy>	 So to be clear, extract the tar ball, run composer from the site's root dir, then run mw_config from a browser?
[09:13:56] <p858snake>	 (at least, based on what i've read in here previously) 
[09:14:08] * Reedy has a look at the tarball
[09:15:52] <Benny_boy>	 @Reedy I extracted the tarball and navigated to mw_config in Firefox. Same as I've always done. Last stable version I installed was 1.25, but 1.27 alph was OK too.
[09:16:30] <Reedy>	 1.25 required composer things
[09:16:59] <Reedy>	 If you look at the MW folder, is there a vendor folder?
[09:17:06] <Benny_boy>	 yup
[09:17:12] <Reedy>	 under that, wikimedia, assert
[09:17:17] <Benny_boy>	 yup
[09:17:44] <Reedy>	 so the files are there, just sounds like not being loaded
[09:17:53] <Benny_boy>	 sorry, no
[09:17:58] <Reedy>	 no, they're not?
[09:18:03] <Benny_boy>	 vendor/wikimedia/asset
[09:18:18] <Reedy>	 assert not asset ;)
[09:18:29] <Benny_boy>	 typo
[09:18:44] <Benny_boy>	 vendor/wikimedia/assert
[09:18:48] <Reedy>	 it's not there?
[09:19:00] <Benny_boy>	 vendor/wikimedia/assert IS there
[09:19:25] <Benny_boy>	 vendor/assert is NOT there
[09:19:33] <Reedy>	 it shouldn't be
[09:20:39] <Reedy>	 hmm
[09:20:41] <Benny_boy>	 thats good then. :) I don't recall running Composer on 1.25 when first creating LocalSettings.php, but I'll give it a go no on 1.27.0
[09:20:56] <Reedy>	 no, you shouldn't need to
[09:21:00] <Benny_boy>	 ah, OK
[09:21:07] <Reedy>	 if you're running from the tarball, everything is packaged
[09:21:17] <Reedy>	 Though, it's weird it worked for you on a 1.27 alpha
[09:22:19] <Benny_boy>	 I'll double check my apache settings. I'm willing to bet its more my fault somehow.
[09:28:08] <Benny_boy>	 it seems to be something in my setup
[09:28:43] <Reedy>	 permissions
[09:28:43] <Reedy>	 ?
[09:29:35] <Benny_boy>	 if I restart apache I get errors on the old site (port 80), but the new installation works (port 81). If I restart again everything switches; old site works, new installation doesn'tload
[09:30:40] <Benny_boy>	 it flip-flops with each restart of apache
[09:30:48] <Benny_boy>	 odd
[09:31:09] <Reedy>	 o_0
[09:32:31] <Benny_boy>	 Right... I'm off to see the Wizard; the Wonderful Wizard of Apache. Thanks for your help. Ben
[12:57:10] <Auger>	 morning
[13:55:41] <Pyro853>	 Hi ! I found that Git repo for mediawiki/user-functions has been moved, but packagist has not been updated, so composer is failing.
[13:56:03] <Pyro853>	 @toniher could you update it ?
[13:57:14] <Reedy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/EUFU/
[13:57:35] <Reedy>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-UserFunctions
[13:58:57] <Pyro853>	 yes, but link in packagist is wrong : see here : https://packagist.org/packages/mediawiki/user-functions
[15:32:17] <bd808>	 If anybody is really bored, there are a ton of git.wikimedia.org references in Wikimedia projects -- https://github.com/search?p=2&q=org%3Awikimedia+%22git.wikimedia.org%22&type=Code
[16:41:17] <t4nk547>	 hello, does anybody knows why category page is not creating indexed list of pages?
[16:42:54] <t4nk547>	 All i have is: "This category currently contains no pages or media." even though I've added [[Category:Category]] tag to the page
[17:20:18] <Furai>	 Hey, I can't make my installation of medaiwiki work with nginx.
[17:20:26] <Furai>	 I think it's 1.21.1
[17:21:41] <Reedy>	 That's a really old version, that isn't supported
[17:21:55] <Reedy>	 I'm not sure there'd be much difference in the terms of web server support in newer MW
[17:27:08] <Furai>	 https://wiki.kag2d.com/index.php/Main_Page
[17:27:14] <Furai>	 This is the furthest I got.
[17:27:22] <Furai>	 Content doesn't load.
[17:29:26] <MatmaRex>	 Furai: ooh, i know that bug. it's specific to running MW 1.21 on new-ish PHP.
[17:29:44] <MatmaRex>	 let me find it…
[17:30:55] <MatmaRex>	 Furai: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60640 you should update to at least 1.21.9, or ideally some newer version
[17:31:18] <Furai>	 Hmm
[17:31:26] <Furai>	 Can I upedate in this broken state?
[17:31:29] <Reedy>	 yeah
[17:31:32] <Reedy>	 that's not an issue
[17:31:54] <Reedy>	 you can jump to 1.23 if you want to do the minimum upgrading to get it working again
[17:33:25] <Furai>	 hmm
[17:33:27] <Furai>	 ok
[17:33:42] <Furai>	 Can you link me quickly to some upgrade manuals?
[17:36:27] <Reedy>	 !upgrade
[17:36:27] <wm-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[17:36:31] <Reedy>	 There's not really much to it
[17:36:36] <Reedy>	 Backup the db, backup the files on disk
[17:36:41] <Reedy>	 Replace the files on disk
[17:36:47] <Reedy>	 run update.php
[17:36:49] <Reedy>	 !update
[17:36:49] <wm-bot>	 update.php is a script that updates the database tables. You usually need to run it after upgrading MediaWiki or installing certain extensions. For details, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script>
[17:39:32] <Furai>	 ok
[17:40:42] <Furai>	 Reedy, so you said that I shuold upgrade to 1.23?
[17:40:49] <Reedy>	 As a minimum
[17:40:57] <Furai>	 Why not 1.27?
[17:40:58] <Reedy>	 Ideally, you should upgrade to 1.27
[17:41:56] <Furai>	 Hmm, anyway, maybe it's safer to upgrade to 1.23 first.
[17:42:34] <Reedy>	 Yeah, that's what I was meaning
[17:42:43] <Reedy>	 It should be fine, but might aswell get it working to start with
[17:45:50] <Furai>	 Ok, added this channel to my idle list.
[17:45:58] <Furai>	 At least I got some help here. :p
[17:46:17] <Furai>	 Or I could get php5.3-fpm
[17:46:29] <Reedy>	 well..
[17:46:36] <Reedy>	 5.3 isn't supported in MW 1.27
[17:46:44] <Reedy>	 So you're gonna cause yourself more problems in future
[17:47:04] <Furai>	 Umh, you know what fpm is, right?
[17:47:08] <Furai>	 I have multiple php installations.
[17:47:19] <Furai>	 So I can just switch whenever.
[17:49:13] <Reedy>	 FPM is a process manager
[17:54:20] <Mikeonline>	 hi
[17:54:34] <Mikeonline>	 is the .htaccess in 1.27 /images buggy? -> 500 server error
[18:29:19] <Furai>	 I want the short cute links in mediawiki
[18:55:44] <hashar>	 !shorturl | Furai 
[18:55:44] <wm-bot>	 Furai: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL> or try the new beta tool at <http://shorturls.redwerks.org/>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[19:02:01] <Furai>	 hashar, I know how to set it up. I just want it to work with nginx.
[19:02:12] <Furai>	 Right now it's trying to download main page.
[19:02:18] <Furai>	 And all the rest works fine.
[19:26:25] <Furai>	 Ok, it was cache error on my side.
[19:26:34] <Furai>	 Reedy, hashar thanks for help.
[19:28:09] <Furai>	  Actually I haven't even looked at links from hashar. :D
[19:38:45] <legoktm>	 bd808: so, I'm not sure what 'lts' is supposed to be, because before https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Version&diff=prev&oldid=2174531 it was 1.23, but I think on IRC ostriches indicated it should be 1.27, so I had it use the most recent release that could be LTS.
[19:39:26] <ostriches>	 1.23 and 1.27 are both lts.
[19:40:22] <bd808>	 true, but for the sake of "the" LTS 1.23 is more stable today than 1.27 isn't it? 1.27 is the latest stable
[19:40:37] <bd808>	 this is a goofy issue to consider though
[19:41:07] * bd808 wonders what ubuntu's pages say
[19:41:49] <bd808>	 the seem to advertise the latest -- http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[19:42:07] <bd808>	 14.04 is still in support but 16.04 is shown as the lts
[19:42:32] <bd808>	 reverting my patch will make that happen again on mw.o
[19:42:37] <bd808>	 s/patch/revision/
[19:44:38] <bd808>	 legoktm, ostriches: if LTS should say 1.27.0 then let's revert https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Version&diff=2175631&oldid=2174531
[19:46:05] <ostriches>	 version numbers give me headaches
[19:58:42] <legoktm>	 bd808: so on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_version_information_templates it's called 'legacy lts'
[19:59:14] <bd808>	 hmmm... makes some sense
[20:00:22] <legoktm>	 but I think we should be advertising 1.27 as the LTS everywhere...and I'm not totally sure where all of those templates are being used
[20:01:16] <bd808>	 I reverted my change to Module:Version
[20:01:32] <bd808>	 1.27 for all
[20:02:03] <bd808>	 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS doesn't even list 16.04 yet. Sheesh
[20:30:58] <cortex_>	 hello
[21:18:23] <Debra>	 bd808: The git.wikimedia.org references should work, right?
[21:18:28] <Debra>	 I think someone set up redirects.
[21:18:47] <bd808>	 some of them, not all for sure
[21:19:05] <Reedy>	 !bug | Debra
[21:19:05] <wm-bot>	 Debra: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
[21:19:07] <bd808>	 there are some esoteric ones that the redir magic doesn't handle
[21:19:12] <Reedy>	 Brilliant wm-bot
[21:19:21] <bd808>	 heh
[21:19:59] <Platonides>	 xD
[21:23:05] <Reedy>	 !bug 1
[21:23:05] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1
[23:06:12] <Agent>	 !bug
[23:06:12] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
[23:06:24] <Agent>	 wm-bot is always up to date
[23:06:34] <Agent>	 !phabricator 
[23:06:34] <wm-bot>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/
[23:06:37] <Agent>	 oh
[23:06:44] <Agent>	 !phabricator 1
[23:06:44] <wm-bot>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/1
[23:06:47] <Agent>	 eh
[23:11:26] <MatmaRex>	 hm?
[23:11:28] <MatmaRex>	 !phab
[23:11:28] <wm-bot>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/
[23:11:38] <MatmaRex>	 !task
[23:11:38] <wm-bot>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T