[04:00:12] <Mamizou>	 hi there; i have an issue with my mw install, where when i go to make an edit it works but logs me out at the same time
[08:15:02] <Reception|away>	 Hello. I was wondering if an edit could be made to LocalSettings.php so that I an edit that is oversighted can only be seen by a specific group.
[08:23:01] <p858snake>	 Reception|away: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RevisionDelete its the ViewSurpressed userright
[08:23:22] <Reception|away>	 p858snake: thank you very much!
[08:27:11] <Reception|away>	 Also, does anyone know how the number of wikis from Special:SiteMatrix could be displayed somewhere? (like on the Main page)
[08:38:16] <Reedy>	 Reception|away: They can't
[08:38:29] <Reedy>	 I think it was asked if you were wanting a tag adding?
[08:38:45] <Reedy>	 Add the reques to phab... I don't think it'd be too difficult to do
[08:38:52] <Reception|away>	 Okay
[08:39:00] <Reception|away>	 Thank you.
[08:39:50] <Reedy>	 I might have a poke at doing it later today
[09:38:35] <SPF|Cloud>	 hi, a colleague of mine is upgrading an old 1.22 MW installation to 1.27.0, but now we're running into trouble with sessions. After a few minutes it logs me out, backtrace of that is available at http://pastebin.com/tNJYC8rJ (https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/raw/rfuvXmhS)
[09:39:53] <SPF|Cloud>	 can this be a real bug in MediaWiki or does it seem like an error from our side?
[09:47:09] <andre__>	 SPF|Cloud: Interesting. Could not find a ticket in phabricator.wikimedia.org with calls from that stacktrace. AuthManager is new in 1.27 hence might be related.
[09:47:38] <andre__>	 There are also a few extensions left who have not been ported yet, like AbuseFilter or CentralAuth, according to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138910
[09:47:53] <SPF|Cloud>	 on another project, who wants to upgrade from 1.26 to 1.27, I also got in trouble with sessions, because CentralAuth fails there
[09:48:00] <SPF|Cloud>	 so I do not love 1.27.0 honestly :-)
[09:48:15] <andre__>	 SPF|Cloud, could you file a ticket in phabricator.wikimedia.org about your problem, with steps to reproduce, against the MediaWiki-Auth project?
[09:48:18] <andre__>	 ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug )
[09:48:21] <andre__>	 Yeah. :-/
[09:48:49] <SPF|Cloud>	 I'll see if I can do that
[09:49:08] <p858snake>	 SPF|Cloud: is the folder your httpd uses for session writable?
[09:49:23] <p858snake>	 although that normally fails straight away iirc
[09:49:26] <SPF|Cloud>	 I guess so... because logging in works fine
[09:49:33] <SPF|Cloud>	 it's just that after a few minutes I get logged out
[09:54:14] <SPF|Cloud>	 andre__: sorry, I'm happy to file a ticket, but we won't be able to follow any steps 'to see if this patch fixes the bug'
[09:54:19] <SPF|Cloud>	 we're downgrading to 1.26.3 now
[09:57:23] <andre__>	 SPF|Cloud, understandable
[10:26:35] <stevenm>	 anyone know why the frig all the entries in mysql are stored as numbers?  i'm just trying to find a way of changing a users email address on the system
[10:26:59] <stevenm>	 and of course there isn't any page to do that (afaik) and any extension i might need to do it (WHAT!? seriously!?) means i need to upgrade all of mediawiki
[10:27:53] <SPF|Cloud>	 stevenm: do you want to change an email address via the DB?
[10:28:08] <stevenm>	 well - only because i can't think of any other way
[10:28:16] <SPF|Cloud>	 do you have a table prefix?
[10:28:31] <stevenm>	 i'm in phpmyadmin - i could just do it from there
[10:28:46] <stevenm>	 but like I said - *all* values in *all* tables are stored as numbers... even those you'd think are strings
[10:28:57] <SPF|Cloud>	 eh
[10:29:15] <SPF|Cloud>	 that is not a MediaWiki feature, so I can't help you with that...
[10:29:20] <stevenm>	 e.g. table 'user' has 'user_name' and 'user_real_name' as columns
[10:29:31] <SPF|Cloud>	 yes
[10:29:42] <Niharika>	 stevenm: That doesn't seem right. Strings would be strings only. Can you show a paste?
[10:29:45] <stevenm>	 but they're 53746576656e6d and 53746576656e204d6164646f78 respectively
[10:29:59] <stevenm>	 like mediawiki has encoded it before storing it
[10:30:25] <stevenm>	 maybe because of utf-8 ?
[10:31:44] <Niharika>	 This seems like something in your config. 
[10:31:46] <Niharika>	 Looking. 
[10:31:51] <stevenm>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDBmysql5
[10:31:57] <stevenm>	 "So then you would end up with UTF-8 content in latin1 columns and that is what you do not want!"
[10:33:27] <Niharika>	 Not exactly a MediaWiki fault. ;)
[10:34:01] <Niharika>	 stevenm: Try turning it to false?
[10:34:47] <stevenm>	 it's already on false
[10:34:53] <stevenm>	 i'm just guessing what this may be
[10:35:00] <Ed_Brazil>	 anyone knows the version of node.js i need to install for the Visual Composer to work
[10:35:02] <Ed_Brazil>	 ?
[10:35:16] <stevenm>	 and the database is already utf8_general_ci
[10:35:50] <stevenm>	 $wgDBTableOptions   = "ENGINE=InnoDB, DEFAULT CHARSET=binary";
[10:35:55] <stevenm>	 i think it may be that
[10:36:11] <stevenm>	 apparently it's the default setting
[10:36:17] <Niharika>	 Hmm, binary. utf-8 should be right. 
[10:36:24] <stevenm>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDBTableOptions
[10:36:27] <Niharika>	 utf8*
[10:36:47] <stevenm>	 "Since binary charsets prevent MySQL from doing charset conversions, which otherwise unnecessarily might take place, the recommended setting is the default setting"
[10:37:05] <Niharika>	 Darn. Okay. 
[10:38:27] <Niharika>	 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6115612/how-to-convert-an-entire-mysql-database-characterset-and-collation-to-utf-8
[10:38:34] <Niharika>	 Seems like its doable. 
[10:39:04] <Niharika>	 After you've had a few beers, that is. 
[10:39:13] <stevenm>	 nah that's different
[10:39:32] <Niharika>	 stevenm: How big is your database? 
[10:39:48] <stevenm>	 in terms of what? records / filesize ?
[10:40:19] <Niharika>	 stevenm: Records.
[10:40:43] <stevenm>	 17766
[10:41:10] <Niharika>	 stevenm: That's not much. You might want to consider a clean start. 
[10:41:34] <stevenm>	 it's mediawiki 1.22 as well - i need to get up to the new LTS
[10:41:53] <stevenm>	 but i that's a bigger job for another day - right now I *just* need to change a users email address!
[10:42:06] <Niharika>	 stevenm: Okay, that should be doable. 
[10:42:13] <Niharika>	 Binary encode their username.
[10:42:16] <Niharika>	 Find that record. 
[10:42:21] <Niharika>	 Binary encode the new email.
[10:42:26] <Niharika>	 Update that in the DB. 
[10:42:43] <Niharika>	 You can find online services to help with the encoding. 
[10:43:58] <stevenm>	 this one seems to work well enough ...dress!
[10:43:58] <stevenm>	 <Niharika> stevenm:
[10:44:11] <stevenm>	 bad paste... i meant this.. https://sites.google.com/site/nathanlexwww/tools/utf8-convert
[10:44:20] <stevenm>	 on hexadecimal mode
[10:44:36] <Niharika>	 stevenm: Try it?
[10:45:26] <stevenm>	 i was - just realised why it wasn't working
[10:45:33] <stevenm>	 mediawiki capitalises the first letter of any username
[10:46:07] <Niharika>	 Right, it does. 
[10:46:25] <stevenm>	 lol the e-mail is stored in a BLOB anyway
[10:47:35] <stevenm>	 right edited the BLOB .bin binary file in GHex and i'm reuploading it
[10:47:38] <stevenm>	 what a faFF!
[10:49:02] <Niharika>	 :D 
[11:01:23] <Ulfr>	 Urgent: Can I downgrade to a previous MW version by running update.php? (I'm going from 1.27.0 to 1.26.2)
[11:02:38] <Ulfr>	 Reedy: ^ I wouldn't bother you with a poke like this unless my arse was in a fryer
[11:02:47] <Reedy>	 Nope
[11:03:15] <Ulfr>	 You're kidding.
[11:03:23] <Reedy>	 I'm not
[11:03:28] <Reedy>	 There's no downgrade functionality
[11:03:28] <Reedy>	 			// 1.27
[11:03:28] <Reedy>	 			[ 'dropTable', 'msg_resource_links' ],
[11:03:29] <Reedy>	 			[ 'dropTable', 'msg_resource' ],
[11:03:29] <Reedy>	 			[ 'addTable', 'bot_passwords', 'patch-bot_passwords.sql' ],
[11:03:30] <Reedy>	 			[ 'addField', 'watchlist', 'wl_id', 'patch-watchlist-wl_id.sql' ],
[11:03:32] <Reedy>	 			[ 'dropIndex', 'categorylinks', 'cl_collation', 'patch-kill-cl_collation_index.sql' ],
[11:03:34] <Reedy>	 			[ 'addIndex', 'categorylinks', 'cl_collation_ext',
[11:03:36] <Ulfr>	 Buggar me.
[11:03:37] <Reedy>	 				'patch-add-cl_collation_ext_index.sql' ],
[11:03:39] <Reedy>	 			[ 'doCollationUpdate' ],
[11:03:45] <Reedy>	 Based on that...
[11:03:50] <Reedy>	 You probably just need to re-add those two msg_resource tables
[11:04:07] <Reedy>	 The other changes should be backwards compatible
[11:04:31] <Ulfr>	 well what's going to be quicker, figuring out how that's accomplished? or completely converting apache2.2 configs to 2.4
[11:04:46] <Ulfr>	 because for some reason php5.6 doesn't want to run with apache2.2
[11:04:56] <p858snake>	 did you take a backup of the db you could revert to?
[11:05:04] <Reedy>	 Does it not have an apache 2.2 php library?
[11:05:17] <Reedy>	 You shouldn't have to change too much from 2.2 -> 2.4, but there were changes
[11:05:29] <Ulfr>	 heh.
[11:05:36] <Ulfr>	 http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Main_Page
[11:05:38] <Reedy>	 I couldn't tell you straight off what they were
[11:05:49] <Ulfr>	 p858snake: No, my database is too big for that to be convenient
[11:06:01] <Ulfr>	 Reedy: They were fairly bloody significant for my config ;;
[11:06:49] <Ulfr>	 and if you skip vagrant and hit the apache server, the page loads for a split second and then it goes into a foreverload loop trying to get something from en.wikipedia.org
[11:07:34] <Reedy>	 o_0
[11:07:41] <Reedy>	 Your using vagrant for a big wiki?
[11:08:07] <Ulfr>	 squid was old, and it's worked fine till now
[11:13:52] <Ulfr>	 Oh I'm so very buggared.
[11:14:20] <Reedy>	 disable the rewrites for starters
[11:14:36] <Ulfr>	 It's this funky reverse proxy thing :(
[11:14:46] <Ulfr>	 if I disable rewrites pictures stop working
[11:14:48] <Ulfr>	 xD
[11:17:10] <Reedy>	 That seems a bit better than everything being broken
[11:19:49] <Ulfr>	 Well, sure
[11:19:54] <Ulfr>	 by the bye, I meant Varnish, not Vagrant
[11:19:56] <Ulfr>	 for caching
[11:20:52] <Ulfr>	 Here's the headscratcher though, I'm definitively running apache2.4, much to my dismay, but the 404 page on port 80 is coming from apache2.2.22
[11:46:33] <Ulfr>	 well, I simplified the process, but I still haven't the foggiest why it does this: http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Main_Page
[11:50:12] <Ulfr>	 like, it brings up the content for a split second, and then wanders off into forever-refresh land
[11:51:07] <Ulfr>	 oh, weird. it directs me to wyciwyg protocol links... wat
[11:51:24] <Reedy>	 A Parser-blocking, cross-origin script, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cacycle/wikEd.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript, is invoked via document.write. This may be blocked by the browser if the device has poor network connectivity.
[11:51:24] <Reedy>	 VM78:4 tick
[11:51:24] <Reedy>	 platform.twitter.com/widgets.js:9 Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Cannot read property 'appendChild' of null(…)
[11:51:48] <Reedy>	 It seems to go blank when the wikied goes
[11:52:27] <Ulfr>	 I've always hated that freaking toolbar.
[11:55:27] <Ulfr>	 This is like trying to troubleshoot under water. I'm not getting any kind of error output
[12:10:10] <Ulfr>	 Okay, the api works, so i'm not completely boned. Is there a way to empty Mediawiki:common.js with just the API?
[12:14:22] <Ulfr>	 Nope, that's not it. :(
[12:25:39] <Ulfr>	 Huh. When I change the apache host directory back to 1.26.2 the pages look like crap, but the load.
[12:25:42] <Ulfr>	 but they load*
[14:09:03] <Piotrek>	 does anyone know how (if?) I can get all params passed to the template that invokes the Scribunto module inside of the module?
[14:12:14] <MatmaRex>	 you definitely can, but i don't remember the syntax
[14:13:33] <MatmaRex>	 Piotrek: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#Accessing_parameters_from_wikitext
[14:13:45] <Piotrek>	 MatmaRex: dzięki
[14:14:23] <Piotrek>	 hmmm…
[18:32:53] <Flexman>	 are there any major fixes betwen mediawiki 1.27.rc0 and the first real version?
[18:45:16] <Agent>	 Flexman: the full implementation of AuthManager?
[18:45:42] <Flexman>	 do i need this?
[18:47:00] <Flexman>	 Agent: i mean, is this something really serious?
[18:47:38] <Agent>	 Flexman: yes, most extensions are being rewritten to use AutoManager and not authplugin
[18:47:48] <andre__>	 If you like to keep software bugs, do not upgrade to more recent versions! :P
[18:48:03] <Agent>	 ^
[18:48:25] <Flexman>	 yep the problem is that i want to convince someone not to use the RC0-version
[18:48:26] <MaxSem>	 to clarify: logging in might work in rc0, but we can't promise anything
[18:48:45] <Flexman>	 however i didn't find any arguments to convince him so far
[18:49:07] <Flexman>	 that's why i'm looking for some things proving this
[18:49:54] <Flexman>	 is there any file where i can see the changes, etc.?
[18:53:45] <Flexman>	 Agent: so 1.27.rc0 did not have the AuthManager?
[18:54:32] <Agent>	 Flexman: a very unstable implementation
[18:54:53] <Agent>	 So like 1/10 of what AuthManager is now
[18:55:38] <Flexman>	 ok i see. but this is only for new plugins?? any other serious problems in other parts?
[19:00:12] <Flexman>	 Agent: i belive you so far - just trying to find some more arguments
[19:01:56] <MatmaRex>	 why would you use the rc0 version :o
[19:02:11] <MatmaRex>	 i am sure we fixed some major bugs since then, let me look
[19:02:18] <MatmaRex>	 (between rc0 and the release)
[19:03:36] <Flexman>	 MatmaRex: i would like to use the final release, but someone is telling me that rc0 is stable enough and i didn not find enough arguments to convince him...
[19:06:52] <MatmaRex>	 Flexman: they're lying, we fixed several authentication-related issues (mostly related to authmanager)
[19:07:25] <Flexman>	 does that authmanager run by default?
[19:07:29] <Agent>	 Flexman: many extensions, if updated will break due to rc0 having a very early AuthManager
[19:07:40] <Ed_Brazil>	 so you guys know where i can get a clean version of LocalSetting.ini without installing MediaWiki?
[19:07:43] <Agent>	 Such as SocialProfile
[19:07:52] <Flexman>	 it seems that the database was corrupted. maybe because of that problem?
[19:08:10] <Flexman>	 does AuthManager affect the Semantic Mediawiki plugins for example?
[19:09:16] <MatmaRex>	 the Semantic people might know this better than us
[19:09:45] <Agent>	 I don't really think AM would affect it
[19:09:58] <Agent>	 As SMW doesn't really use any auth api calls
[19:10:03] <Nikerabbit>	 true
[19:10:22] <Nikerabbit>	 no problems so far seen with SMW itself (some of the other extensions might have)
[19:10:27] <MatmaRex>	 Flexman: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/MW/history/REL1_27/ "Reset all tokens on login" is the last commit that made it into rc0
[19:11:55] * Agent uses wmf branches
[19:12:17] <MatmaRex>	 Flexman: commits not in rc0 include at least one fix for a security issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137799
[19:12:39] <MatmaRex>	 (we should really probably that task public, whoops)
[19:12:51] <Flexman>	 yep ;)
[19:12:54] <Nikerabbit>	 yeah we are curious
[19:13:10] <Agent>	 ...and wondering how to exploit stuff :D
[19:13:21] <MatmaRex>	 the fix was https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/rMW45ca9182479657614d20a92e913cf061e21800bf and is obviously public
[19:13:50] <MatmaRex>	 rc0 would always act as if you checked "Remember me" when logging in
[19:14:13] <MatmaRex>	 so if you closed the browser expecting that to log you out, wlel, it wouldn't
[19:22:22] <Flexman>	 MatmaRex: : ok thank you
[19:35:21] <Sophivorus>	 hi !
[19:35:34] <Sophivorus>	 im having trouble setting a page property with my extension
[19:35:46] <Sophivorus>	 i've reduced the problem to the following code:
[19:35:52] <Sophivorus>	 $wgHooks['SkinAfterContent'] = function ( $content, $title, $revId, $options, $generateHtml, &$output ) {
[19:35:59] <Sophivorus>	  	$output->setProperty( 'test', 'ok' );
[19:36:01] <Sophivorus>	  };
[19:36:24] <Sophivorus>	 this should set a property called "test" with value "ok", but its simply not working, nothing gets set
[19:36:31] <Sophivorus>	 can anyone see the problem ?
[19:38:00] <MatmaRex>	 Sophivorus: that doesn't look like the right function signature for this hook…
[19:38:06] <MatmaRex>	 !hook SkinAfterContent
[19:38:06] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinAfterContent
[19:38:26] <Sophivorus>	 ow sorry!! i was using ContentGetParserOutput
[19:38:42] <Sophivorus>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ContentGetParserOutput
[19:39:24] <Sophivorus>	 $wgHooks['ContentGetParserOutput'] = function ( $content, $title, $revId, $options, $generateHtml, &$output ) { 	$output->setProperty( 'test', 'ok' ); };
[19:50:22] <MatmaRex>	 Sophivorus: i'm not sure how exactly saving those to database works, sorry :/ i'm not sure if they are requiredfor this to work, but i'd start by verifying you have job queue set up, and any cache set up
[19:50:51] <Sophivorus>	 thanks matma
[20:46:30] <Ed_Brazil>	 hey
[20:46:42] <Ed_Brazil>	 a guy is installing parsoid for me on the server
[20:47:07] <Ed_Brazil>	 i have 6 wikis on the same database, with different prefixes
[20:47:39] <Ed_Brazil>	 hes asking me the url he has to set on parsoid
[20:47:54] <Ed_Brazil>	 does he need to install one for each site?
[20:49:48] <Reedy>	 Are they competent enough to be doing it?
[20:49:57] <Reedy>	 Same url, different config/parameters to pass
[20:53:10] <Ed_Brazil>	 lol
[20:58:45] <Ed_Brazil>	 reedy, ok, thanks
[20:58:49] <Ed_Brazil>	 ;)
[20:59:03] <Reedy>	 FWIW, wikimedias config is all public
[22:19:19] <Ed_Brazil>	 Reddy, btw, u helped me with my wiki upgrade. was short and straight, but it helped. thanks ;)
[22:29:04] <J-2>	 To install MW under a subdomin (www.example.com/wiki) do I import the files into that subdomin or just rename the folder?
[22:29:50] <Reedy>	 www questionably isn't a subdomain
[22:29:55] <Reedy>	 /wiki is a folder
[22:30:52] <J-2>	 Huh? Basically I already have a site set up on my domain, I want the wiki to be installed at that domain/wiki so like www.example.com/wiki 
[22:30:58] <J-2>	 But I'm confused as to how to do so 
[22:31:25] <Reedy>	 typically, a subdomain would be wiki.example.com
[22:31:32] <Reedy>	 but you'd still need folders on the other end
[22:32:22] <J-2>	 My domain is TownyTwist.com and I don't want that to become the url of my wiki because that's the url of my site 
[22:32:31] <J-2>	 But I want it to be connected to the domain somehow 
[22:32:44] <J-2>	 How would I go abouts doing that
[22:33:32] <MatmaRex>	 J-2: yes, you can just put the MediaWiki files in a subfolder.
[22:33:38] <Reedy>	 you can just put it in a folder called wiki.. The question later is whether you want to do any pretty urls and such...
[22:34:38] <J-2>	 So if I put the files in a folder called wiki what would my URL be? As long as it's not simple example.com then I'm okay 
[22:34:47] <J-2>	 Simply*
[22:35:33] <MatmaRex>	 J-2: it'd be example.com/wiki/ :)
[22:35:50] <MatmaRex>	 e.g. http://example.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[22:36:35] <J-2>	 Okay thanks 
[23:08:35] <Sophivorus>	 hi!
[23:08:50] <Sophivorus>	 im trying to purge all the pages that link to a certain title
[23:09:06] <Sophivorus>	 i know there is the $Title->getLinksTo() method that returns an array of titles linking to this title
[23:09:11] <Sophivorus>	 but i cant figure out how to purge them
[23:09:34] <Sophivorus>	 specifically, i want to regenerate the internal links
[23:09:39] <Sophivorus>	 anyone knows how ?
[23:13:45] <MatmaRex>	 Sophivorus: hmm, try looking at the code in /includes/api/ApiPurge.php and adapting it
[23:14:29] <Sophivorus>	 thanks !
[23:14:34] <MatmaRex>	 Sophivorus: why do you need to do that? perhaps there's some other way
[23:15:40] <Sophivorus>	 i have a hook that adds various clases to all internal links
[23:16:03] <Sophivorus>	 when a page is edited, i need to update all the links linking to the edited page
[23:16:22] <Sophivorus>	 similar to when all red links are turned blue when a non-existent page is created
[23:16:52] <Sophivorus>	 i found the LinksUpdate class, but i'm still figuring out how to use it
[23:18:17] <MatmaRex>	 Sophivorus: hmm, so i think that's actually simpler than i though – you don't need to update the links tables (which is what LinksUpdate does), only the rendered page HTML
[23:18:36] <Sophivorus>	 indeed
[23:19:08] <MatmaRex>	 Sophivorus: and it looks like you can do that with just WikiPage::factory( $title )->doPurge()
[23:19:36] <MatmaRex>	 Sophivorus: but then, i think we do things like that a bit differently usually. purging the HTML for however many pages can probably be pretty expensive
[23:19:38] <Sophivorus>	 yay, let me try !
[23:19:46] <MatmaRex>	 !e Disambiguator
[23:19:46] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Disambiguator
[23:19:53] <Sophivorus>	 no problem, my wiki is not wikipedia XD
[23:20:20] <MatmaRex>	 heh. fair enough
[23:20:21] <Sophivorus>	 it worked !!!!!
[23:20:28] <Sophivorus>	 you're a genius, thanks
[23:20:41] <MatmaRex>	 but you can look at Disambiguator for something that looks pretty similar to what you're working on
[23:20:56] <Sophivorus>	 ah, nice tip, i will