[08:00:28] <Nemo_bis>	 The ETSI Summit on Open Source held last year raised the following question: “Are standards and standards bodies such as ETSI relevant in today’s world of ubiquitous and ever increasing Open Source products and projects?” https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/event/etsi-workshop-open-source-and-standardization-legal-interactions
[08:00:48] <Nemo_bis>	 It would be curious if ETSI replied to ETSI's question that ETSI is irrelevant
[08:09:37] <karima>	 hello I have a prob with gerrit... somebody has 2 min ?
[08:11:09] <p858snake>	 karima: what problems are you experiencing?
[08:12:14] <karima>	 Hi, I did a arc land ... all ok but at the end... -> master (prohibited by Gerrit)
[08:12:41] <karima>	 Usage Exception: Push failed! Fix the error and run "arc land" again.
[08:13:33] <karima>	 remote: To push into this reference you need 'Push' rights.
[08:14:29] <karima>	 It's not clear...
[08:15:29] <Nemo_bis>	 You seem to be mixing gerrit and diffusion
[08:15:53] <Nemo_bis>	 What repository are you trying to commit to?
[08:17:12] <karima>	 In phabricator I use the first link... ie. Gerrit link https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ELIW/
[08:17:38] <karima>	 there are 3 links... it's not clear...
[08:18:27] <Niharika>	 karima: You can't push to gerrit.
[08:18:35] <Niharika>	 karima: You need to do "git review"
[08:19:05] <karima>	 I have to do a git review after a arc diff ?
[08:19:33] <karima>	 or only git review without arc ?
[08:19:52] <Niharika>	 karima: Arc diff seems to be for diffusion and not gerrit. The link you posted is diffusion. What exactly are you trying to do?
[08:20:46] <Niharika>	 Differential*
[08:21:44] <karima>	 I did... arc feature  master .... arc feature txx_do_something.... change && commit ... arc diff ... arc land...
[08:23:57] <legoktm>	 karima: I'm not sure what documentation led you to arc, but we *don't* use arc for Gerrit. We use git-review. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial
[08:24:50] <karima>	 oki... you need to insert a warning in the page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Arcanist
[08:25:25] <Nemo_bis>	 " to git repositories that are hosted by Phabricator"
[08:25:48] <Nemo_bis>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ELIW/ has a "read only" icon which probably is not clear enough
[08:27:17] <karima>	 I will try to do a git-review. Thanks for your help
[08:28:04] <Niharika>	 Nemo_bis: Which one's the read-only icon? 
[08:30:12] <Nemo_bis>	 karima: warning added :)
[08:30:48] <karima>	 Nemo_bis: thanks ;)
[09:09:24] <karima>	 Re-Hello... I pushed in Gerrit it's OK. In phabricator, I can't close the review. Someone can add me like reviewer or close it. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/D308
[09:13:56] <karima>	 legoktm: can you close this review ? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/D308 thanks
[09:14:19] <andre__>	 karima, what is the related Gerrit URL?
[09:14:35] <andre__>	 don't see that linked from https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142473
[09:15:14] <karima>	 in gerrit https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/303995/
[09:17:05] <andre__>	 For future reference, a last line like "Bug: T142473" is welcome for automatic Gerrit-Phab comments. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Commit_message_guidelines#Phabricator  :)
[09:17:06] <stashbot>	 T142473: Use Wikidata by default & update lib SPARQL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142473
[09:19:32] <karima>	 ok I try now ;)
[16:03:56] <Redbot>	 !seen redbot
[16:03:56] <wm-bot>	 Did you mean @seen redbot?
[16:03:59] <Daeghrefn>	 Redbot, go look in a mirror.
[16:04:05] <Redbot>	 @seen nischayn22
[16:04:05] <wm-bot>	 Redbot: I have never seen nischayn22
[16:05:21] <Guest_49848>	 Allah is doing
[16:05:25] <Guest_49848>	 sun is not doing Allah is doing
[16:05:32] <Guest_49848>	 moon is not doing Allah is doing
[16:05:37] <Guest_49848>	 stars are not doing Allah is doing
[16:05:45] <Guest_49848>	 planets are not doing Allah is doing
[16:24:11] <PugaBear>	 I'm trying to use a bot to parse the search page of my wiki and display it in a chat but I need to make it not redirect if the search term is the same as a page's name. How can I accomplish this?
[16:27:47] <Dereckson>	 if root problem is "I want an automated client to be able to search my wiki", I would recommend https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Search
[16:28:10] <Dereckson>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Opensearch could also be used
[16:28:16] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 PugaBear: don't parse pages. it's a bad idea.
[16:28:28] <Platonides>	 PugaBear: you'd click just the search button
[16:30:22] <Dereckson>	 That's why API exist: to avoid to parse pages.
[16:31:12] <Nemo_bis>	 BTW there are bots which already do this, e.g. http://inamidst.com/phenny/
[16:31:19] <Reedy>	 DanielK_WMDE_: shun the non believer! shun! shuuuuuuuuun!
[16:43:38] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Reedy: talk to Guest_49848
[16:43:57] <Reedy>	 lol
[17:12:17] <ardnet>	 hey all, good morning :)
[17:12:39] <ardnet>	 i wanna ask some issue regarding with External Data extension
[17:13:07] <ardnet>	 I'm encountered problem as described in this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:External_Data/Archive_2014#Directory_Path_doesn.27t_work
[17:13:14] <ardnet>	 was wondering whether there
[17:13:23] <ardnet>	 was wondering whether there
[17:13:36] <ardnet>	 was wondering whether there's a work around for it?
[17:14:39] <ardnet>	 basically this setting: $edgDirectoryPath doesn't work for me
[17:14:43] <ardnet>	 thx in advance
[17:32:03] <Amir1>	 James_F: hey, if someone wants to edit a template (text editor) it shows the "TemplateData" toolbar 
[17:32:15] <Amir1>	 there are some templates not in the template ns though
[17:32:23] <Amir1>	 like User:UBX/Foo
[17:32:40] <Amir1>	 Is there a way to enable that for them too?
[17:43:22] <James_F>	 Amir1: No. They aren't templates, that's just a page.
[17:43:51] <James_F>	 Amir1: The next step with TD is to base it off the ContentStreams work.
[17:44:44] <James_F>	 Amir1: That'll make it much more possible to designate a page as a "template" and so get transclusion-related tools added regardless of namespace (as a ContentSlots change, though, which might be… confusing).
[17:44:47] <Amir1>	 Okay, I understand 
[17:45:59] <Amir1>	 thanks for the answer
[17:46:11] <James_F>	 Amir1: Always. Sorry it'll take a while.
[17:46:57] <Amir1>	 np
[19:46:32] <wormguy>	 Anyone with particular experience on Extension:Comments?
[19:47:58] <wormguy>	 Everything looks fine except that it's not working in 1.23: G'day, I have expanded the master version of the extension into my extensions folder (/var/www/html/wikiname/extensions), added the line to my LocalSettings.php require_once "$IP/extensions/Comments/Comments.php"; // allows use of comment tags in wiki pages then ran update.php, which I can confirm created workshopComments, workshopComments_Vote, and workshopComments_block 
[19:49:04] <Reedy>	 wormguy: You want ashley
[19:49:16] <wormguy>	 Thanks Reedy.
[19:50:06] <Reedy>	 You likely need a newer version tbh
[19:50:20] <ashley>	 hi wormguy! tl,dr: upgrade to MediaWiki 1.26, it's the latest stable as well as the only one compatible with Comments' (and other social tools') master version
[19:51:17] <ashley>	 social tools don't have so many developers -- I do most of the dev work tbh -- so old releases of MediaWiki aren't supported; sorry about that, it sucks, I know :(
[19:51:25] <ashley>	 (cheers Reedy for the ping :)
[19:56:37] <Skizzerz>	 ashley: latest stable is 1.27 ;)
[20:12:41] <Betacommand>	 !upload
[20:12:41] <wm-bot>	 File uploads are disabled by default, set $wgEnableUploads=true; to enable it. See <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads> for configuration details, <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Managing_files> and <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images> for using uploaded images and other files.
[20:34:25] <emax>	 Hey all. I am trying to get 1.27 working and I am running into an error: /var/lib/mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi/extension.json does not exist!
[20:34:51] <emax>	 I asked google about it, but I don't have the vocabulary to properly describe my issue
[20:34:59] <MatmaRex>	 well, does it exist?
[20:35:20] <emax>	 apparently not
[20:35:36] <MatmaRex>	 it looks like you're trying to enable that extension, but it's not installed
[20:35:58] <MatmaRex>	 !e SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi
[20:35:58] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi
[20:36:32] <MatmaRex>	 emax: so, either download and install it, or remove the `wfLoadExtension( 'SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi' )` call from your LocalSettings.php if you did not mean to use it
[20:36:48] <emax>	 thanks
[20:37:52] <ardnet>	 hey all, anyone know how to get the file path from the uploaded file in Semantic Forms?
[20:40:29] <ardnet>	 so first of all, i was following the way that was described in this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms/Input_types#Uploading_files
[20:40:33] <ardnet>	 ie: http://discoursedb.org/wiki/Special:FormEdit/Images_test/Test
[20:41:55] <ardnet>	 So when I typed this in my template file: {{{PDF File|}}}, I'm getting the name of the file
[20:42:07] <ardnet>	 but how about getting the path of that file?
[20:42:12] <ardnet>	 thx in advance
[20:42:53] <Reedy>	 Why do you need the path?
[20:42:59] <Reedy>	 Special:FilePath?
[20:43:27] <ardnet>	 Reedy: thanks for responding. I just need it for some logic that I need to implement
[20:43:29] <Reedy>	 or {{filepath:Name.ext}}
[20:43:50] <Reedy>	 !magic
[20:43:50] <wm-bot>	 For more information about creating magic words and their inner workings, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Magic_words>. For a list of magic words, please see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words>.
[20:43:57] <ardnet>	 ooo ic...
[20:44:40] <ardnet>	 you mean something like this? {{{FilePath:PDF File|}}} ?
[20:45:33] <Reedy>	 No
[20:45:47] <Reedy>	 the right hand side of the : is the file name
[20:45:56] <Reedy>	 if you've got it in a template ish parameter...
[20:46:05] <Reedy>	 {{filepath:{{{PDF File|}}}}}
[20:46:34] <ardnet>	 ooh ic, lemme try that, thx a lot!
[20:56:26] <ardnet>	 Reedy, ok, it returning the full path with the domain in it, and hyperlink to the file it self
[20:56:38] <ardnet>	 and seems this way it's working for me, thx!
[20:58:24] <ardnet>	 btw, besides 'filepath', and I need to know other param (or what ever you call this), is there any documentation that i can take a look with that? thx
[21:00:51] <TimStarling>	 RFC meeting starting now in #wikimedia-office: A spec for Wikitext
[21:16:22] <ardnet>	 oh, nvrmind, it was already mentioned by wm-bot, it's in here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words cheers :)
[23:17:22] <Zppix>	 there are some many zuul tasks going on lol
[23:19:16] <paladox>	 see -releng
[23:19:30] <paladox>	 known probalem and seems to be a lab virt host seems to be very slow
[23:29:42] <Zppix>	 -releng?
[23:32:34] <paladox>	 Yeh
[23:32:36] <paladox>	 #wikimedia-releng
[23:36:34] <Zppix>	 paladox:  is there a way I can help anything run faster or anything
[23:36:34] <Zppix>	 ?
[23:36:45] <paladox>	 Nope
[23:36:52] <paladox>	 labs has to find and fix the problem
[23:37:05] <paladox>	 but seems nodepool has stopped working now
[23:37:41] <Zppix>	 they know they are i think working on getting smoe of the stress outta the system
[23:37:58] <Zppix>	 its prob about time to get more processing power behind it
[23:41:52] <paladox>	 yeh
[23:42:53] <Zppix>	 paladox:  i guess hitting f5 on zuul over and over doesnt help does it :P
[23:45:35] <paladox>	 lol
[23:45:37] <paladox>	 nope
[23:45:49] <paladox>	 that just causes it to load slowly