[03:38:42] <slushpuppy>	 is there a way to hide new changes to a page/new page until someone(like sysop) approves them?
[03:39:30] <Debra>	 slushpuppy: There's FlaggedRevs.
[03:39:35] <Debra>	 !e FlaggedRevs
[03:39:35] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
[03:39:43] <Debra>	 But in general, MediaWiki is all or none access model.
[03:40:00] <Debra>	 So either everyone gets to see stuff or only people with logins.
[03:40:16] <Debra>	 Trying to restrict particular pages or particular namespaces is tricky and not really supported still.
[03:41:34] <ksft>	 what about pending changes protection?
[03:41:41] <slushpuppy>	 Thanks Debra!
[03:41:57] <Debra>	 ksft: "Pending changes" is probably the English Wikipedia name for FlaggedRevs.
[03:42:18] <ksft>	 oh
[07:01:33] <slushpuppy>	 Is it possible to remove the circled header thing? http://imgur.com/HL2kOiF
[07:29:20] <Nikerabbit>	 slushpuppy: people often do that with css in Mediawiki:common.css
[07:32:05] <slushpuppy>	 Thanks Nikerabbit 
[07:34:44] <Nikerabbit>	 something like .page-Main_Page .firstheading { display:none; }
[07:34:55] <Nikerabbit>	 double check the class names
[07:54:52] <qxm0>	 hey, i have a short question, hope it's ok to ask... we are setting up a wiki and trying to understand how to make the interwiki links more user-friendly, like on wikipedia where you can click 'add language' instead of having to add it in the source
[07:54:59] <qxm0>	 is this included in the interlanguage extension?
[08:07:59] <andre__>	 where exactly do you see an "add language" link?
[08:08:51] <qxm0>	 rather, 'edit links' ... but never mind, i think i got on the right track. looks like it is done through wikidata, so hopefully I can figure it out from here
[13:44:55] <slushpuppy>	 I am trying to create a sub category inside a category page, putting the "[[Category:Category name]]" simply adds the subcategory into the bottom. How do it make it appear inside the content
[13:47:07] <auvajs_>	 put [[Category:Category name]] into the subcategory page?
[13:52:51] <slushpuppy>	 auvajs_, it just appears that this http://imgur.com/6OtGhkC
[13:53:22] <slushpuppy>	 I want it to show the Subcategories heading at the top
[13:57:37] <auvajs_>	 I'm not sure but I guess you need CategoryTree extension for that
[14:00:38] <slushpuppy>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Africa <-- basically i want that "This category has the following 34 subcategories, out of 34 total. "
[14:05:55] <slushpuppy>	 o nvm i think i got it
[16:17:19] <Betacommand>	 Any idea why I am getting http://pastebin.com/QQmcqh94 when trying to use a password reset on my wiki?
[16:21:08] <slushpuppy>	 Betacommand, appears to be a syntax error inside
[16:21:19] <slushpuppy>	 #0 /var/www/html/pathfinder/includes/mail/UserMailer.php(368): Mail::factory(string, array)
[16:21:51] <slushpuppy>	 also does anyone know of a working extension similar to this, but for 1.27? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PluggableAuth
[16:22:08] <Reedy>	 Betacommand: something to do with the pear/mail you have
[16:22:15] <Reedy>	 check for pear updates?
[16:23:18] <slushpuppy>	 or maybe I could patch it to 1.27 myself, any quick cheats mirgration guide for authplugin->authmanager?
[16:24:15] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:SessionManager_and_AuthManager
[16:24:24] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:SessionManager_and_AuthManager/Updating_tips
[16:25:06] <bd808>	 slushpuppy: I think Cindy is working on updating that plugin for AuthManager.  Let me see if there is a ticket open
[16:25:09] <Nightcinder>	 slowly building a competent websitee!
[16:25:14] <Nightcinder>	 fuck this kb
[16:25:22] <slushpuppy>	 thanks bd808!
[16:25:37] <slushpuppy>	 i must admit
[16:25:55] <slushpuppy>	 mediawiki is easily the most detail OSS php SASS i used in a while
[16:26:07] <Nightcinder>	 need to figure out how to do LDAP ACL's now D:
[16:26:25] <bd808>	 slushpuppy: T110464
[16:26:25] <stashbot>	 T110464: Update PluggableAuth to use AuthManager - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110464
[16:26:26] <Betacommand>	 Reedy: thanks, did a forced update and that fixed it
[16:26:28] <slushpuppy>	 bd808, teach me how to find tickets as well!
[16:26:36] <Reedy>	 Open phab
[16:26:38] <Reedy>	 type words
[16:26:40] <Reedy>	 search
[16:26:41] <Reedy>	 profit
[16:26:43] <slushpuppy>	 whats this phab thing vs github
[16:27:06] <bd808>	 Phabricator is our bug tracker
[16:27:16] <bd808>	 it's like github's issues only much fancier
[16:27:19] <bd808>	 and FLOSS
[16:27:46] <bd808>	 The tracking ticket for all things AuthManager is T89459
[16:27:47] <stashbot>	 T89459: Modernize MediaWiki authentication system (AuthManager) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89459
[16:28:38] <slushpuppy>	 ic
[16:28:46] <slushpuppy>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/299107/
[16:28:51] <slushpuppy>	 i guess this is what i am looking for
[16:29:16] <Nightcinder>	 is the ldap extension deprecated now?
[16:29:26] <Nightcinder>	 i've heard it has issues with 1.27's auth
[16:29:44] <Reedy>	 No
[16:29:49] <Reedy>	 It's just not really maintained
[16:29:57] <Reedy>	 I thought it recieved some updates
[16:30:15] <Nightcinder>	 i can't get ssl to work, but that might be an internal thing, having my netadmin try to figure it out at some point
[16:30:39] <slushpuppy>	 Nightcinder, get ur own dedicated server!
[16:30:47] <Nightcinder>	 ?
[16:30:55] <Nightcinder>	 slushpuppy: ssl LDAP authentication
[16:31:04] <slushpuppy>	 <Nightcinder> i can't get ssl to work,
[16:31:10] <Nightcinder>	 yeah, LDAP
[16:31:16] <Nightcinder>	 it breaks when talking to the AD server
[16:31:25] <slushpuppy>	 but not to other tls sites?
[16:31:33] <Nightcinder>	 i wouldn't know, this is internal only
[16:31:45] <slushpuppy>	 hence why get your own dedicated server :p
[16:31:54] <Nightcinder>	 ..i mean it's hosted internally..
[16:31:59] <Nightcinder>	 i don't quite get your point
[16:32:08] <slushpuppy>	 more control
[16:32:13] <slushpuppy>	 fix things on the spot
[16:32:16] <slushpuppy>	 save time
[16:32:17] <slushpuppy>	 etc.
[16:32:20] <Nightcinder>	 ???
[16:32:29] <Nightcinder>	 i'm hosting it in a vm?
[16:32:34] <Nightcinder>	 i don't..what?
[16:32:56] <slushpuppy>	 well i am just as confused as you are
[16:33:03] <slushpuppy>	 o well moving on
[16:33:06] <Nightcinder>	 my *internal* wiki is not talking to my *internal* AD over SSL
[16:33:09] <Nightcinder>	 only cleartext
[16:33:19] <Nightcinder>	 my netadmin is my coworker
[16:33:59] <slushpuppy>	 right
[16:35:10] <slushpuppy>	 ugh and i wasted my time downgrading to 1.26 
[16:35:27] <Nightcinder>	 anyway
[16:35:37] <Nightcinder>	 i need to figure out how to implement some sort of ACL's with LDAP
[16:35:50] <Nightcinder>	 so IT can only view IT, etc
[16:37:31] <slushpuppy>	 u can build an ldap base off that pluggableauth thing
[16:39:33] <Nightcinder>	 $wgGroupPermissions['Domain Admins'] = $wgGroupPermissions['sysop'];
[16:39:36] <Nightcinder>	 apparently this doesn't work
[16:44:36] <Nightcinder>	 hmm
[16:44:42] <Nightcinder>	 it's not pulling me into a sysop group
[16:48:27] <Skizzerz>	 <Nightcinder> i need to figure out how to implement some sort of ACL's with LDAP <Nightcinder> so IT can only view IT, etc -- mediawiki may not be the right fit for you then, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_issues_with_authorization_extensions
[16:49:00] <Nightcinder>	 the AD we use needs to totally be redone too
[16:49:18] <Skizzerz>	 anyway, as for the permissions thing, $wgGroupPermissions['Domain Admins'] = $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']; won't add you to the sysop group, it'll just give you equivalent permissions as them
[16:49:22] <Skizzerz>	 (which is probably fine)
[16:49:35] <Nightcinder>	 but it's not adding me to the domain admins group
[16:49:42] <Skizzerz>	 if you're not seeing those permissions, it seems likely that your LDAP extension isn't adding the correct group
[16:49:44] <Nightcinder>	 which is the bigger issue
[16:50:01] <Skizzerz>	 what LDAP extension are you using?
[16:50:45] <Nightcinder>	 ldap authentication
[16:50:56] <Skizzerz>	 I assume latest version?
[16:50:57] <Nightcinder>	 the one by ryan lane
[16:50:59] <Nightcinder>	 yeah
[16:51:19] <Nightcinder>	 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8i0yNJ9t/
[16:51:26] <Nightcinder>	 i don't seem to have an OU for it to pull from
[16:51:29] <Nightcinder>	 that might be an issue
[16:52:40] <Skizzerz>	 did you see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication/Examples#Configuration_for_AD_domains ?
[16:53:05] <Skizzerz>	 as well as the bits above?
[16:53:21] <Skizzerz>	 lack of OU shouldn't matter as long as your base query isn't including one
[16:54:05] <Skizzerz>	 perhaps copy/paste your LDAP configuration (from LocalSettings.php), minus any sensitive info like server address and passwords
[16:54:05] <Nightcinder>	 ya i saw it
[16:54:13] <Skizzerz>	 into a pastebin service of some sort
[16:55:09] <Skizzerz>	 should be able to see what tweaks are needed to the config to make things work
[16:56:18] <Nightcinder>	 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Ea5uzB4g/
[16:57:53] <Skizzerz>	 the array keys may be case-sensitive
[16:58:00] <Skizzerz>	 e.g. PRESRITE is different from Presrite
[16:58:43] <Skizzerz>	 (in PHP, array keys are case-sensitive by default and it takes extra code to make them case-insensitive)
[16:59:05] <Skizzerz>	 so try changing all of your config keys to have the same casing
[16:59:47] <Skizzerz>	 you'll probably need to log out and log back in to test if that did the trick or not
[17:01:12] <Nightcinder>	 pls hold
[17:02:15] <Nightcinder>	 trying to do 5 things at once
[17:06:48] <Nightcinder>	 Member of groups:	Autoconfirmed users, Users
[17:14:18] <Nightcinder>	 does it need something in order to give me those permissions
[17:14:21] <Nightcinder>	 like an account with sysop
[17:15:56] <Nightcinder>	 it's not pulling real name either
[17:28:01] <alex1a>	 hello, i just installed a dedicated server with mediawiki framework, in installation proccess i put and save my frontend user, but login page return me this message: "There seems to be a problem with your login session;..."
[17:28:40] <alex1a>	 anyone know what i should do ? i have access to phpmyadmin and all server files. thanks
[17:31:13] <slushpuppy>	 alex1a, enable $wgDebugLogFile
[17:31:30] <slushpuppy>	 inside LocalSettings.php
[17:31:41] <slushpuppy>	 i suspect issues with php sessions
[17:32:49] <alex1a>	 i can't see any wgDebugLogFile option inside my LocalSettings.php, slushpuppy 
[17:32:58] <alex1a>	 maybe i should add a new line ?
[17:33:33] <slushpuppy>	 yes do that
[17:33:38] <alex1a>	 and what value wgDebugLogFile receive ? a bool ?
[17:33:51] <slushpuppy>	 $wgDebugLogFile = 'path/to/logfile.log';
[17:34:09] <slushpuppy>	 replace path with a webserver writeable file 
[17:34:12] <alex1a>	 shameonme, thanks
[17:36:32] <slushpuppy>	 alex1a, when done, try to login again, it should dump some logs
[17:39:53] <alex1a>	 i add this line "$wgDebugLogFile = "/var/log/mediawiki/debug-mediawikidbtest.log";" restart apache, try to login and mediawiki folder do not exist, neither the log file
[17:44:01] <alex1a>	 slushpuppy, i think my permissions was wrong. "find path/to/mediawiki -type d -exec chmod 770 {} +" and "find path/to/mediawiki -type f -exec chmod 660 {} +"
[17:44:59] <slushpuppy>	 alex1a, it doesn't automatically create the file i think
[17:45:06] <slushpuppy>	 or the directory
[17:45:24] <slushpuppy>	 just mkdir /var/log/mediawiki/ && touch /var/log/mediawiki/debug-mediawikidbtest.log
[17:45:33] <alex1a>	 hmm, should i create the log file manually ?
[17:45:36] <alex1a>	 hmm thanks
[17:46:22] <auvajs_>	 slushpuppy: it doesn't create the dir but it creates the file
[17:46:34] <auvajs_>	 at least it did for me today
[17:47:06] <Skizzerz>	 Nightcinder: sorry, I got distracted, are you still around?
[17:48:13] <alex1a>	 slushpuppy, i need to sudo to create the folder and the log file, try again and file was empty. should i give special permissions to folder/file ?
[17:48:51] <alex1a>	 auvajs_, i will try to remove log file and let mediawiki create one
[17:52:05] <alex1a>	 nop, mediawiki do not create log file if i remove it. i think this is a permission/ownership problem, i will search about. thanks anyway
[17:55:21] <slushpuppy>	 should i give special permissions to folder/file ?
[17:55:25] <slushpuppy>	 yes you have to alex1a 
[17:55:34] <slushpuppy>	 make sure your webserver can read it
[17:55:47] <slushpuppy>	 infact, it is probably easier to let it write within the MW directory
[18:15:51] <jjordaan>	 hi all, can does any one know why I all of a sudden would get this on my wiki: Warning: assert() has been disabled for security reasons in /var/www/x/includes/Revision.php on line 1087
[18:16:18] <jjordaan>	 i tried googling the issue but i'm unable to find what the issue might be
[18:17:36] <jjordaan>	 it was still working fine a couple of hours ago and all of a sudden started displaying a blank page
[18:18:26] <jjordaan>	 i then checked the apache error logs and also enabled the debugging in LocalSettings.php
[18:18:49] <jjordaan>	 which gave me that warning
[18:19:14] <jjordaan>	 any help would be greatly appreciated
[18:27:10] <Skizzerz>	 jjordaan: someone added assert to your disable_functions in php.ini
[18:27:11] <Skizzerz>	 go remove it
[18:29:54] <Nightcinder>	 Skizzerz: got busy with another project
[18:32:50] <Skizzerz>	 terrible timing, I'm about to head off to lunch
[18:32:59] <Skizzerz>	 Nightcinder: did you fix all the array keys to be all-uppercase?
[18:33:13] <Skizzerz>	 and then log out and log back in?
[18:33:24] <Skizzerz>	 if yes and still doesn't work, then will need to look into it further
[18:33:28] <Skizzerz>	 when I get back
[18:35:57] <jjordaan>	 thanks Skizzerz i'll check it out quick :D
[18:38:23] <Nightcinder>	 Skizzerz: still didn't work
[18:38:32] <Nightcinder>	 but like i said, i'm busy with another project
[18:39:34] <RudyValencia>	 So I'm setting up a wiki and adding a custom image to the Special:UserLogin page by editing Mediawiki:Loginprompt. I want the image to resize down automatically when the window is reduced (or on mobile devices), is there a parameter to use with [[File:Imagefile.ext]] embedding that does this?
[18:48:50] <alex1a>	 slushpuppy, mediawiki already create the log file, it's possible to see why i can't login ? this is a fresh install btw
[19:21:54] <saper>	 alex1a: what is in your debug log?
[19:21:57] <saper>	 !debug | alex1a 
[19:21:58] <wm-bot>	 alex1a: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging
[19:22:38] <saper>	 alex1a: how is your PHP session module configured ? (check with a phpinfo)
[19:22:51] <saper>	 !phpinfo | alex1a
[19:22:51] <wm-bot>	 alex1a: create a file called info.php in your wiki's installation directory. It should have the following content: <?php phpinfo(); ?>; Visit it with your browser to see information about your php installation. If it doesn't work, check file permissions. Remove the file when done, it makes life easier for attackers.
[19:22:54] <alex1a>	 i can't login with admin frontend credentials
[19:23:24] <saper>	 what is "admin frontend"? during the installation you should have created the administrative user
[19:25:24] <alex1a>	 saper, yeah but seems to be a php session problem. atm mediawiki already have permissions to write debug log file.
[19:25:57] <alex1a>	 login in frontend with admin credentials give me this error "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking"
[19:26:54] <Platonides>	 looks like a session problem, yes
[19:27:04] <alex1a>	 saper, one moment, i'm creating the info.php file
[19:33:20] <alex1a>	 was created and seems to work fine. i'm trying understand this php session thing
[19:46:19] <saper>	 alex1a: there is a 'session' module in the PHP output
[19:46:38] <saper>	 it can be configured to used files and other things
[19:46:49] <saper>	 normally it is configured to use files in some temporary directory
[19:47:06] <saper>	 it may happen that your temp directory is not writable by the web server for example
[19:48:53] <alex1a>	 my /tmp/ folder seems to be filled of some *.lesscache files
[19:54:21] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 oh hey saper! long time no see!
[20:07:11] <RudyValencia>	 Is it possible to disable minor edits in MW 1.27?
[20:08:06] <RudyValencia>	 *minor and patrolled
[20:08:34] <Vulpix>	 RudyValencia: yes, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights#List_of_permissions
[20:09:11] <Vulpix>	 there are minoredit, autopatrol and patrol rights you can revoke to all user groups
[20:18:25] <RudyValencia>	 cool, and how do I turn off password reset since I'm using Active Directory to authenticate users?
[21:03:34] <wlievens>	 I'm trying to setup mediawiki on CentOS 6.5 with nginx
[21:03:51] <wlievens>	 I've got it to load the index php page but it fails to load 'load.php' and such
[21:04:12] <wlievens>	 I ended up debugging the ExtensionRegistry.php file because that's where the php-fpm logs pointed to
[21:04:59] <wlievens>	 it seems the data on extensions loading (if I understand correctly) is messed up somewhere, more specifically the keys in the array are "mangled" (maybe encoding screwup?)
[21:05:09] <wlievens>	 compare these two links: http://wiki.particracy.net/index.php?title=Main_Page http://wiki.particracy.net/load.php
[21:05:17] <wlievens>	 and look at the key entries in that print_r dump
[21:06:26] <Vulpix>	 there's some weird memory corruption going on there
[21:07:30] <wlievens>	 I've tried to disable caching in LocalSettings.php with #$wgMainCacheType = CACHE_NONE; to no effect
[21:08:30] <wlievens>	 I just want to get this wiki up and running for now, I don't care (yet) about more "advanced" features (extensions or skins or such) ... in case that might help solve it+?
[21:08:38] <wlievens>	 or even short urls, for now
[21:08:55] <wlievens>	 (I realize I'm just listing features that in all likeliness have nothing to do with the root cause)
[21:09:40] <Vulpix>	 this doesn't look like a MediaWiki problem, but a PHP problem. Do you have some php caching like xcache, APC or similar?
[21:10:08] <wlievens>	 I yum installed apc but did not enable or configure it anywhere
[21:10:15] <wlievens>	 but I disabled caching with $wgMainCacheType
[21:10:46] <Vulpix>	 xcache and apc are php extensions, they cache PHP code, without MediaWiki intervention
[21:11:05] <wlievens>	 right I'm mixing up two levels of caching
[21:11:20] <Vulpix>	 you may see them enabled in phpinfo, usually enabled by a line in php.ini
[21:11:57] <Vulpix>	 they may cause some weird things, specially if you install/enable more than one, usually causing segfaults
[21:13:15] <wlievens>	 apc is on, it seems in my phpinfo
[21:13:48] <wlievens>	 now it's off, issue seems solved!
[21:14:14] <Vulpix>	 I'm not sure why load.php is particularly sensible to those bugs, always causing crashes like this. Some Gentoo versions cause load.php to simply segfault when using the default php package
[21:14:39] <wlievens>	 yeah I found tons of references to load.php segfaulting but nothing for my actual issue
[21:14:56] <wlievens>	 So for now it seems to work. This is a very low volume site, so I'm not going to work on re-enabling any caching until I really have to.
[21:15:27] <Vulpix>	 you can enable any other MediaWiki caching, just not apc ;)
[21:15:34] <wlievens>	 yeah
[21:15:39] <wlievens>	 I will try to fix those sweet short urls first though
[21:22:22] <Vulpix>	 wlievens: https://github.com/krakjoe/apcu/issues/38 maybe you can also try setting apc.serializer=php