[00:13:07] <auvajs>	 hi, I'm having problems login in via api using login token, always getting <login result="WrongToken" /> no matter what, but I believe the token should be good
[00:14:39] <auvajs>	 I'm getting token which looks like 46cae32ea441093a093137a8b519ad7a57bf89e0+\
[00:16:04] <Alphos>	 auvajs how are you passing the token back ? would it be asking too much to look at your code ?
[00:18:06] <k-man>	 is there a way to make the headings in long tables float so when the user scrolls down, the headings stay visible?
[00:18:11] <Alphos>	 (honest question, i wouldn't mind if you don't want to show it)
[00:19:35] <legoktm>	 auvajs: you need to make sure you pass the cookies you got in your original request onto the second request
[00:21:55] <auvajs>	 Alphos: http://pastebin.com/GYqaev6e I only changed username and pass
[00:22:02] <auvajs>	 it's in python
[00:23:37] <auvajs>	 legoktm: hm that might be the problem :/
[00:23:53] <legoktm>	 um what
[00:23:58] <legoktm>	 don't use regex to parse xml...use JSON
[00:24:24] <legoktm>	 auvajs: https://github.com/legoktm/supersimplemediawiki/blob/master/mw.py is a decent reference implementation
[00:24:29] <legoktm>	 (for login)
[00:24:44] <Alphos>	 or dom to parse xml
[00:24:58] <Alphos>	 but json will probably be a lot easier for everyone :)
[00:25:07] <legoktm>	 also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_code#Python
[00:26:53] <auvajs>	 well I'm not a programmer.. :) doing it this way seems easier to me
[00:27:40] <auvajs>	 I used pure bash and curl up to know but decided to update to a bit higher level :D
[00:27:46] <auvajs>	 *now
[00:28:02] * bawolff made a bot in bash once
[00:28:08] <bawolff>	 It was a bad idea. Don't do it
[00:28:25] <bawolff>	 but it powered [[Template:Popular Articles]] on enwikinews for several years
[00:29:06] <Alphos>	 these statements seem contradictory [02:26:50] <auvajs> well I'm not a programmer.. :) [02:27:37] <auvajs> I used pure bash and curl up to know
[00:29:49] <auvajs>	 it's easy but I only managed to login the old method via action=login
[00:30:28] <Alphos>	 auvajs really, stick to json. json parsers are far easier to use than dom for xml
[00:30:53] <Alphos>	 they'll give you native structures in whatever language you're using, which dom probably won't
[00:31:02] <Alphos>	 and using anything other than dom to parse xml is absurd
[00:31:11] <Alphos>	 regular expressions : case in point
[00:31:37] <auvajs>	 curl -b mycookie --data-urlencode "action=login" --data-urlencode "format=xml" --data-urlencode "lgname=""$username" --data-urlencode "lgpassword=""$pass" --data-urlencode "lgtoken=""$token" "$mywiki""/api.php" -c mycookie
[00:31:46] <auvajs>	 this worked so far for me, lol
[00:32:15] <Alphos>	 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags that post will never cease to be funny
[00:36:25] <auvajs>	 anyway, back to my little code, the reason is not working is probably that I'm not using cookies?
[00:45:19] <bawolff>	 Wait, so $wgEmailConfirmToEdit blocks all actions except read?
[00:45:23] <bawolff>	 That seems messed up
[00:45:59] <Alphos>	 not really
[00:47:20] <bawolff>	 I think non-email confirmed users should at least be able to edit their preferences
[00:47:27] <bawolff>	 To request the confirmation email be resent
[00:48:12] <bawolff>	 err, wait, it doesn't seem to actually block that
[00:48:35] <Alphos>	 meh, kinda means "any alteration on the db, whether insert/update/delete/replace/'not select' requires a confirmed email address"
[00:48:45] <Alphos>	 i find that sane
[00:50:52] <bawolff>	 Actually i think i was wrong
[00:51:00] <bawolff>	 code does not seem to actually do what i thought it did
[00:51:20] * bawolff points out that confirming your email involves an db UPDATE :P
[00:51:37] <bawolff>	 MW permission code is just plain confusing
[00:51:56] <Alphos>	 yeah, but by the time the UPDATE occurs, the user has technically sent the confirmation :p
[00:52:15] <Alphos>	 i'd point out that creating the user in the db involves an INSERT though :D
[01:27:04] <auvajs>	 <login result="Success" :)))
[01:31:08] <Alphos>	 auvajs :) but again, i suggest you use json
[01:31:17] <Alphos>	 you'll have less trouble using json than xml
[01:32:04] <Alphos>	 https://docs.python.org/2/library/json.html
[01:32:35] <Alphos>	 lot better than parsing xml using the dom, and really really really a LOT better than attempting to parse it using regular expressions ;)
[01:39:32] <auvajs>	 Alphos: the problem was I was not using data = {'lgname': user, 'lgpassword': password, 'lgtoken': logintoken} to post data
[01:39:51] <Alphos>	 ah ! :D but the json bit remains ;)
[01:40:49] <auvajs>	 Alphos: well honestly I don't know what json is :D I only know there's format option json, but I have no experience with it at all.. as I said I'm not a programmer (but a lawyer :D)
[01:41:41] <Alphos>	 auvajs something that has a way of being converted to a native value in your programming environment with a single function call :)
[01:42:13] <Alphos>	 if you're still parsing xml yourself, relying on regular expressions, you WILL hit a brick wall at some point
[01:42:55] <auvajs>	 well, maybe later
[01:43:33] <auvajs>	 getting edit token works for me, hopefully editting will to and time to got bed :D
[01:43:34] <Alphos>	 json on the other hand has json.loads() in python which will turn the entire json blob the server returns into a neat object/array/list/whatever which you'll be able to run through as if you defined it yourself in your code
[01:44:28] <auvajs>	 go to bed.. 3:44 am here, I'm not even able to write properly
[01:44:36] <Alphos>	 same time here
[01:45:03] <auvajs>	 :) gn and tnx for help
[01:45:07] <Alphos>	 yw :)
[05:04:19] <Reception123>	 could someone please help me with an error here: https://maiasongcontest.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_settlement
[09:10:15] <shubham>	 help
[09:12:07] <shubham>	 I want to create a wikipedia, wikidata and other apps for Windows with the original name and logo..Can I use it?
[09:40:29] <shubham>	 help please
[09:40:50] <Alphos>	 shubham : short answer, no
[09:41:40] <Alphos>	 wikipedia, wikidata, and their logos are trademarks of the wikimedia foundation. you can't use them without permission. and you may ask for it, but you won't get it
[09:42:53] <Alphos>	 i'm not interested in a private conversation on the topic. let's keep it here. you won't get it because they don't give that permission away to just anybody
[09:43:48] <Alphos>	 besides, there's already a mobile version for wikipedia and wikidata
[11:05:51] <akmet>	 hey there, i have a question on the new SessionProviders. Is anybody here that knows how to use them? :)
[11:07:59] <andre__>	 !ask | akmet
[11:07:59] <wm-bot>	 akmet: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :)
[11:08:21] <akmet>	 Okay, thanks andre__! :)
[11:11:46] <slushpuppy>	 akmet, i was working with them couple of days ago
[11:11:54] <akmet>	 !ask When trying to create my own SessionProvider i get a ClassNotFound, but the class is loaded correctly. Maybe my extension.json is just not correctly? http://pastebin.com/emaPjL6u
[11:11:54] <wm-bot>	 Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :)
[11:12:00] <akmet>	 When trying to create my own SessionProvider i get a ClassNotFound, but the class is loaded correctly. Maybe my extension.json is just not correctly? http://pastebin.com/emaPjL6u
[11:12:41] <slushpuppy>	 hang on
[11:12:50] <slushpuppy>	 i got the exact code to make it load
[11:13:30] <akmet>	 That would be very great! Been searching the whole day to find a way to use the SessionProviders
[11:16:07] <slushpuppy>	 Oh i can't seem to find it..
[11:17:07] <slushpuppy>	 ah 
[11:17:11] <slushpuppy>	 i see the problem
[11:17:16] <slushpuppy>	 akmet, remove the autoload key
[11:17:49] <akmet>	 Done, but does not solve the problem.. same fatal error
[11:18:53] <akmet>	 Could it be that my class is just corrupt?
[11:19:18] <akmet>	 http://pastebin.com/Mk0vNqLZ
[11:20:24] <slushpuppy>	 aha
[11:20:27] <slushpuppy>	 same mistake as i did
[11:20:31] <slushpuppy>	 namespace MediaWiki\Session; <- remove that
[11:22:18] <akmet>	 Still Class not found o.O earlier this morning i got an error that SessionProvider was not found, so i added it
[11:23:06] <Vulpix>	 maybe you need the namespace for SessionProvider?
[11:23:28] <Vulpix>	 just a guess, I'm not familiar with PHP namespaces
[11:24:13] <slushpuppy>	 akmet, whats the exact error
[11:24:25] <akmet>	 Fatal error: Class 'WWUAuthSessionProvider' not found in /www/data/FSMI/htdocs/FSMI/wiki/includes/libs/ObjectFactory.php on line 147
[11:26:22] <slushpuppy>	 oh
[11:26:30] <slushpuppy>	 put back the autoload class key, whast the error
[11:29:04] <akmet>	 Okay, now i get the missing SessionProvider error (Fatal error: Class 'SessionProvider' not found in wiki/extensions/WWUAuth/WWUAuthSessionProvider.php on line 7)
[11:31:18] <slushpuppy>	 yeah hang on
[11:31:29] <slushpuppy>	 trying to remember what i put..
[11:34:26] <akmet>	 use MediaWiki\Session\SessionProvider; brought me the following error: Fatal error: Declaration of WWUAuthSessionProvider::persistSession() must be compatible with MediaWiki\Session\SessionProvider::persistSession(MediaWiki\Session\SessionBackend $session, WebRequest $request) in
[11:34:46] <slushpuppy>	 ah yes
[11:35:02] <slushpuppy>	 You will need to add
[11:35:08] <slushpuppy>	 use MediaWiki\Session\SessionBackend;
[11:35:13] <slushpuppy>	 as well
[11:35:18] <akmet>	 yeah, that fixed it
[11:36:19] <akmet>	 thanks a lot! :) 
[12:22:57] <luis_>	 hi, how's everyone doing?
[12:28:41] <luis_>	 is anyone here
[12:28:41] <wm-bot>	 Hi luis_, I am here, if you need anything, please ask, otherwise no one is going to help you... Thank you
[12:30:17] <luis_>	 Hi there how can i retreive my username for wikipedia Thank you
[12:32:29] <luis_>	 anyone
[12:32:33] <luis_>	 here
[12:35:55] <Vulpix>	 luis_: do you mean you forgot what's your username on Wikipedia?
[12:36:11] <luis_>	 yes
[12:37:23] <luis_>	 Vulpix: yes
[12:39:07] <Vulpix>	 luis_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PasswordReset enter your email address
[12:50:10] <luis_>	 Vulpix: I have tried but i do not receive anything from wiki. I have tried different emails
[12:50:56] <Vulpix>	 luis_: did you register an email when you created the account?
[12:51:44] <luis_>	 I am not sure, but i have tried different emails and i don't receive anything Thank you
[12:53:00] <Vulpix>	 so your only options are: - If you remember editing a page, look at the history of that page to find your user name there
[12:53:42] <luis_>	 okay thank you i will try that, be right back
[12:53:47] <Vulpix>	 - If you registered your email address, you should have a confirmation email from when you confirmed it, see if it's still on your mail account
[12:54:27] <Vulpix>	 nothing more, unless your browser history has an entry for your user page or similar
[12:58:20] <luis_>	 Vulpix: I do not see my username, can you help? http://wikivisually.com/wiki/Draft:PapiTrapSuave
[13:00:08] <Vulpix>	 luis_: are you PapiTrapSuave ?
[13:01:42] <luis_>	 Yes
[13:02:22] <luis_>	 Vulpix: So that is my username?
[13:04:16] <Vulpix>	 luis_: if you recognize that edit, yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PapiTrapSuave
[13:05:44] <luis_>	 Vulpix: okay, i will try to log in
[13:08:45] <luis_>	 Vulpix: I succesfully logged in, Thank you. How can i delete the article http://wikivisually.com/wiki/Draft:PapiTrapSuave
[13:11:52] <Vulpix>	 wikivisually.com is not operated by Wikimedia Foundation, so we can do nothing... but supposing it fetches contents from Wikipedia, you can try editing https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:PapiTrapSuave&action=edit and place a {{delete}} template
[13:12:34] <luis_>	 Vulpix
[13:12:48] <Vulpix>	 wikivisually.com is not operated by Wikimedia Foundation, so we can do nothing... but supposing it fetches contents from Wikipedia, you can try editing https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:PapiTrapSuave&action=edit and place a {{delete}} template
[13:16:03] <slushpuppy>	 people should look @ the domain name first ffs
[13:18:06] <jubo2>	 y0 and Thanks, Thanks, Thanks for the awesome softwares
[13:18:16] <jubo2>	 I'm seeing some weird behaviour at one of my wikis
[13:18:19] <jubo2>	 http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
[13:19:36] <Vulpix>	 jubo2: can you please elaborate?
[13:19:42] <luis_>	 Vulpix: sorry, what do you mean by place a delete template. You mean type {{delete}} at the end of the article?
[13:19:45] <jubo2>	 There is addition of porn spam onto the article here http://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Claims_of_corruption&curid=5701&diff=45161&oldid=15878 but the recent changes reports octet change as '(-63)'
[13:19:49] <Vulpix>	 luis_: yes
[13:20:10] <jubo2>	 So is kind of freaky error somewhere
[13:20:28] <Vulpix>	 hmmm, indeed
[13:20:35] <jubo2>	 The addition is maybe 150 chars but the RC does say in red font (-63)
[13:20:37] <luis_>	 Vulpix: That will let them know that i want the article deleted?
[13:21:42] <Vulpix>	 luis_: yes, an admin will delete that page, and that will hopefully replicate "wikivisually.com", but as I said, that domain is not operated by WMF
[13:22:55] <Vulpix>	 jubo2: http://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Claims_of_corruption&action=history history has track of the number of bytes for each revision, and is consistent with the -63, in fact the difference is calculated with that, the error must be in one of those revisions
[13:23:32] <jubo2>	 Vulpix: but look at the edit diff.
[13:23:41] <jubo2>	 zero removals
[13:23:44] <jubo2>	 many additions
[13:23:54] <Vulpix>	 I know the diff, look the size in the page history
[13:23:54] <jubo2>	 how does the raw wikitext byte count go up?
[13:24:02] <jubo2>	 sorry
[13:24:06] <jubo2>	 how does it go down?
[13:24:45] <Vulpix>	 this may have something to do (probably a bug anyway, but...) http://develop.consumerium.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Talk%3AClaims+of+corruption
[13:28:30] <jubo2>	 I should prlly protection
[13:28:48] <jubo2>	 I just find this "wrong prefix integer in MediaWiki"-business a bit unnerving
[13:29:19] <jubo2>	 of course one thinks of things such as "maybe time to migrate to clean server again"
[13:29:56] <jubo2>	 I'll delete-restore once and .. uhh.. protect.. can I protect so that only logged in can edit?
[13:30:20] <Vulpix>	 you can also recalculate the byte count of those entries
[13:31:41] <Vulpix>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PopulateRevisionLength.php but that requires those revisions to have a null value on the revision length
[13:32:07] <Vulpix>	 the previous revision is probably the one that has it wrong, so every new edit will cause this mismatch again
[13:34:09] <jubo2>	 Can't I protect level "only logged in may edit" ?
[13:35:02] <Vulpix>	 yes
[13:35:20] <luis_>	 Vulpix: How long do you think it will take for an admin to delete my article? Thanks
[13:35:49] <Vulpix>	 luis_: shouldn't take more than a day
[13:36:24] <luis_>	 Vulpix: Thank you really appreciate your help today!
[13:36:31] <Vulpix>	 yw :)
[13:36:38] <jubo2>	 Vulpix: what does "autoconfirmed" mean ?
[13:37:08] <Debra>	 !man Autoconfirmed
[13:37:08] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Autoconfirmed
[13:37:22] <Vulpix>	 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Autoconfirmed_users
[13:37:43] <Vulpix>	 a redirect is probably worth it :)
[13:37:48] <Debra>	 Yeah, made.
[13:39:20] <luis_>	 Vulpix: what are the procedures to writing a wiki
[13:40:05] <Vulpix>	 luis_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contributing_to_Wikipedia
[14:27:01] <produnis2>	 Hi folks, I have a problem with my mediawiki. Since I updated to 1.27, articles won't be added to categories. In addition, extension MsUpload is marked as "installed" on Special:Version, but it won't show up while editing an article. I updated to 1.27.1 today, but my problem is still there
[14:27:45] <produnis2>	 In Firefox console, I do not see any errors
[14:28:02] <MatmaRex>	 produnis2: the first problem sounds like you have the job queue disabled
[14:28:19] <produnis2>	 MatmaRex: how can I found out if I did so?
[14:28:53] <MatmaRex>	 do you have $wgJobRunRate set to 0?
[14:28:56] <MatmaRex>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue
[14:28:58] <Vulpix>	 job queue is broken, probably
[14:29:09] <MatmaRex>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgJobRunRate
[14:29:23] <Vulpix>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142751
[14:29:47] <Vulpix>	 just set $wgRunJobsAsync = false; in LocalSettings.php
[14:30:06] <produnis2>	 I'll try, thx Vulpix
[14:31:46] <produnis2>	 YEAH, THX guys, this solved my Category-Problem
[14:32:50] <Vulpix>	 it's a pity that AaronSchulz is not here :)
[14:33:52] <produnis2>	 My second and last problem is extension MsUpload, which I used quite often. After I updated to 1.27, the MsUpload-bar just does not show up.
[14:35:32] <produnis2>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139341
[15:14:55] <ashley>	 any Echo gurus around? I have a rather huge patchset for adding Echo support to one of my extensions (see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/278868/), and it's been tested quite a lot and is almost ready to be merged, the only thing I can't figure out is the bundle stuff. how is it supposed to work? I don't think it's working as intended in my code; thus I can't figure out what, if any, i18n...
[15:14:57] <ashley>	 ...messages related to the bundle stuff I need; that's why there's a Korean (!) i18n msg in the UserBoard/i18n/en.json file in the patch -- I have no clue where or how it's used, *if* it even is used
[15:15:21] <ashley>	 (this patch is live on http://social-tools.wmflabs.org/ should someone want to test it or something)
[15:21:47] <StaopSoddv>	 TE MATARE CON MIS PROPIAS MANOS HIJO DE PERRA ALVARO MOLINA
[15:21:48] <StaopSoddv>	 TE MATARE CON MIS PROPIAS MANOS HIJO DE PERRA ALVARO MOLINA
[15:21:49] <StaopSoddv>	 TE MATARE CON MIS PROPIAS MANOS HIJO DE PERRA ALVARO MOLINA
[15:29:47] <Vulpix>	 it's better called Un-Ban Bot :P
[15:41:09] <Nemo_bis>	 ban the bans
[15:58:53] <Glaisher>	 ashley: In Special:Preferences's notifications section, there is an option to set bundled daily/weekly notifications instead of separate notifications
[16:25:54] <ashley>	 Glaisher: hm...so it's something only used for emails, and not for the web UI, right?
[16:28:10] <Glaisher>	 ashley: I think you can do bundling for both web and emails but it's optional, I think
[16:28:11] <Glaisher>	 not sure
[16:29:00] <Glaisher>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Thanks/blob/master/Thanks.hooks.php#L184
[16:29:13] <Glaisher>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Thanks/blob/master/ThanksPresentationModel.php search for isBundled()
[16:29:15] <Glaisher>	 ashley: ^
[16:29:59] <Glaisher>	 Then there's the hook for getting bundle rules
[16:30:02] <ashley>	 ahhh, this would explain a thing or two -- thanks Glaisher :D
[16:30:17] <Glaisher>	 You will probably be able to get more definitive answers at #wikimedia-collaboration
[16:30:27] <Glaisher>	 :)
[16:47:49] <StaapSoddv>	 TE MATARE CON MIS PROPIAS MANOS HIJO DE PERRA ALVARO MOLINA
[16:47:51] <StaapSoddv>	 TE MATARE CON MIS PROPIAS MANOS HIJO DE PERRA ALVARO MOLINA
[16:50:24] <Vulpix>	 someone needs to create an AbuseFilter for IRC channels :)
[18:10:17] <produnis2>	 does anyone have an idea why extension MsUpload won't show up after upgrade to mediawiki 1.27?
[18:11:30] <produnis2>	 or a guess where to start debugging
[18:11:36] <produnis2>	 firefox console won't show any errors
[18:11:51] <produnis2>	 it's simply not there
[18:12:01] <Xxmarijnw>	 I assume it worked properly on 1.26?
[18:12:06] <produnis2>	 yeah
[18:12:29] <Vulpix>	 it may not be compatible with 1.27, I'm not sure if it has been updated to work with that version
[18:12:48] <Xxmarijnw>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:T721d2d8776y5fyg
[18:13:00] <Xxmarijnw>	 That might help
[18:14:38] <produnis2>	 thx, xxmarijnw... but I started this thread.. :)
[18:14:44] <Xxmarijnw>	 Oh heh...
[18:14:47] <produnis2>	 :D
[18:15:26] <Xxmarijnw>	 Have you tried the method 122.225.127.202 is suggesting?
[18:15:33] <produnis2>	 yes
[18:17:00] <Xxmarijnw>	 Let me try installing it on my wiki.
[18:19:04] <produnis2>	 wait
[18:19:09] <produnis2>	 sorry,
[18:19:26] <produnis2>	 it works
[18:19:29] <produnis2>	 just a second
[18:19:39] <produnis2>	 I have to check what I did to make it work
[18:20:59] <slushpuppy>	 does msupload work with VE?
[18:21:43] <Xxmarijnw>	 produnis2: Works fine for me aswell
[18:25:42] <produnis2>	 I did my debugging at the wrong place of my filesystem. So, while playing with differnet versions, and re-installing the extension, the "real" folder of the livesystem wasn't touched.... 
[18:25:54] <produnis2>	 thx for your time, xxmarijnw
[18:26:21] <produnis2>	 I can confirm that using the method of 122.255.127.202 does solve the problem
[18:52:31] <Xxmarijnw>	 yw, produnis2
[19:32:55] <Betacommand>	 Do we have a script for cleaning up unused thumbs?
[19:34:34] <MaxSem>	 we just don't know which of them are unused
[20:43:25] <j6fe>	 Hello!!
[20:44:42] <j6fe>	 I have just installed mediawiki, and extension EditAccount. My user is in group administrator, and I have line $wgGroupPermissions['administrator']['editaccount'] = true in EditAccount.php.
[20:45:21] <j6fe>	 YET! When I go to Special:EditAccount, logged in as my user, I only get the option to close my account!!
[20:46:30] <j6fe>	 In fact! When I go to EditAccount, I am redirected to CloseAccount.
[21:01:40] <j6fe>	 is there a groups table?
[21:02:06] <j6fe>	 I can only see 'former_groups' and 'user_groups'
[21:02:16] <Skizzerz>	 there is not
[21:02:39] <Skizzerz>	 check Special:ListGroupRights
[21:02:42] <Skizzerz>	 see if you see it on there
[21:02:58] <Skizzerz>	 remember that any config for an extension should go below the point you load it
[21:03:28] <Skizzerz>	 also check extension documentation for any other things you may have missed
[21:03:54] <j6fe>	 ty
[21:04:14] <j6fe>	 Skizzerz, I don't see sysop in ListGroupRights, yet I see it in my table?
[21:04:35] <j6fe>	 Problem is I have removed myself from administrator group which means I can't access some things.
[21:04:47] <Skizzerz>	 sysop is listed as Administrators on that pag
[21:04:48] <Skizzerz>	 *page
[21:04:50] <j6fe>	 Can I user INSERT (my_user_id, 'administrator')?
[21:04:58] <j6fe>	 into user_groups
[21:04:58] <Skizzerz>	 don't do that
[21:05:07] <Skizzerz>	 just add yourself back in Special:UserRights
[21:05:25] <j6fe>	 I get Permission Error trying to access that page
[21:05:45] <Skizzerz>	 if you insert into that table, you need to use the internal group names
[21:05:49] <Skizzerz>	 aka 'sysop' and 'bureaucrat'
[21:06:00] <Skizzerz>	 administrator is the front-end name for sysop, but it's still sysop in the backend
[21:06:21] <Skizzerz>	 there is also the createAndPromote.php maintenance script which you can use to grant yourself +sysop and +bureaucrat even if your account already exists
[21:06:52] <Skizzerz>	 either way, you will likely need to log out and back in on the wiki for any rights changes to take effect
[21:07:05] <j6fe>	 I am in that table as sysop. Strange, but not in it for Beaurocrat. So I can't access UserRights even if I am sysop?
[21:07:15] <Skizzerz>	 UserRights is restricted to bureaucrats
[21:07:30] <Skizzerz>	 if you own/run the wiki, I'd suggest being in that group as well
[21:07:42] <Vulpix>	 but you can change that restriction in LocalSettings.php
[21:15:12] <j6fe>	 okay, i am back in bureaucrats now
[21:15:16] <j6fe>	 back to square 1
[21:15:52] <j6fe>	 soo... i am in groups: 'administrator' and 'bureaucrat'
[21:16:02] <j6fe>	 in EditAccount.php i have:
[21:16:17] <j6fe>	 $wgGroupPermissions['administrator']['editaccount'] = true;
[21:16:21] <j6fe>	 so this should work?
[21:17:10] <j6fe>	 lol wth i have TWO groups named administrator showing on UserRights page
[21:17:13] <Vulpix>	 I think administrator should be sysop
[21:18:07] <j6fe>	 okay, i can edit when i add myself to this second 'administrator' group
[21:18:09] <j6fe>	 strange
[21:18:41] <Vulpix>	 as Skizzerz said, MediaWiki uses the internal name "sysop", "administrator" is the "displayed name", if you add administrator or whatever in $wgGroupPermissions it will show as another user group
[21:19:06] <Vulpix>	 see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights
[21:19:29] <j6fe>	 rightio
[21:20:14] <j6fe>	 so i need to put $wgGroupPermissions['sysop'] rather than administrator?
[21:20:36] <Vulpix>	 yes
[21:20:45] <j6fe>	 Cool :D
[21:21:18] <Skizzerz>	 I totally missed that, whoops
[22:09:29] <Betacommand>	 !version
[22:09:29] <wm-bot>	 To find the current version of Wikimedia wikis, see https://tools.wmflabs.org/versions/. To find out the version of your MediaWiki installation, visit the page Special:Version. Should the wiki be broken, but you have access to the program files, find $wgVersion in DefaultSettings.php. Please note that 1.15.0 > 1.5.0 (since nobody wants to go to 2.0). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle for supported versions.
[22:11:29] <nyuszika7h>	 I'm trying to make a template which outputs the first parameter literally in the code block, this is what I tried but the problem is it returns the raw HTML code generated by templates, rather than leaving the input as-is:
[22:11:30] <Betacommand>	 !update
[22:11:30] <wm-bot>	 update.php is a script that updates the database tables. You usually need to run it after upgrading MediaWiki or installing certain extensions. For details, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script>
[22:11:31] <nyuszika7h>	 {{#tag:pre|{{#tag:nowiki|{{{1}}}}}}}
[22:52:45] <Skizzerz>	 nyuszika7h: not possible with pure wikitext, may be possible via scribunto