[01:08:13] <samwilson>	 addshore: is there an easy way to get the API URL after using MediawikiApi::newFromPage() ?
[07:33:24] <Dr_Z>	 hello
[07:34:04] <Dr_Z>	 have a problem with some of the link in one of my page bottom
[07:34:10] <Dr_Z>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tbz0wbg9nkyao9dd
[07:34:30] <Dr_Z>	 i posted wiki specifications too
[07:39:48] <andre__>	 Dr_Z: Where to see the raw code?
[07:40:13] <andre__>	 Feel free to edit your post and insert <nowiki>...your raw code...</nowiki> tags.
[07:41:17] <sapiency>	 hi, I've some questions about ldap and autocreate users, is someone here who is familiar with the ldap extension?
[07:41:51] <Dr_Z>	 thank you for the tip :)
[07:43:09] <Dr_Z>	 er.... how to edit the post? xD
[07:46:06] <Dr_Z>	 done
[07:47:13] <Dr_Z>	 not very good though 
[08:40:02] <NehalDaveND>	 Hello! I want to submit sa.wikipedian's Technical Wish here. We are very small community and non of us have much technical knowledge. Most of new users are coming via Mobile to sa.wiki. But our Main page is not Mobile compatible. So we asked many wikipedians of other language, but we failed. Now we want to submit tech wise for Sanskrit Wikipedia's Main page rebuilding. Please help us.
[08:56:19] <sapiency>	 I want to modify the links for privacy and disclaimer, so the refer to an external site. I've found some older extensions, but I'm not sure if they should be used any more. Where there no changes because it was not necessary or are they not maintained any more? Or is there a simple solution for the latest stable version of mediawiki?
[09:40:50] <andre__>	 sapiency: Edit MediaWiki:Disclaimers on your wiki?
[09:42:27] <sapiency>	 hi andre_: thats possible ... but I want to set the link directly to our pages ...
[09:44:47] <andre__>	 sapiency, MediaWiki:Disclaimerpage
[09:44:56] <andre__>	 MediaWiki:Privacypage
[09:47:50] <sapiency>	 andre_: thats the links which are used by default ...  I would like to have <a title="..:Privacy" href="http://url/privacy">Privacy</a>
[09:53:02] <sapiency>	 andre_: I've looked at "/include/Skin.php", because I thought it is maybe possible to overwrite a variable in LocalSettings.php. But as long as I allow multiple skins, it is too much work to keep this up to date all the time.
[10:14:00] <ardnet>	 hey all, anyone here has ever implemented mediawiki with OneLogin (onelogin.com) before? so far i installed PluggableAuth, SimpleSAMLphp and SimpleSamlAuth for that, but yet i'm not sure how to configure those (a bit overwhelmed) as not much a documentation of it - as far as i can see...
[10:15:27] <ardnet>	 just fyi, on my side, i already have the: Issuer URL, SAML 2.0 Endpoint (HTTP), and SLO Endpoint (HTTP) 
[10:15:48] <ardnet>	 but still, not sure where to put those into the configuration
[10:15:57] <ardnet>	 thx in advance
[10:15:59] <andre__>	 sapiency: errrm, so why don't you edit MediaWiki:Disclaimerpage and MediaWiki:Privacypage ?
[10:16:15] <andre__>	 just because of a custom "title" tag?
[10:52:35] <LuisMiguel>	 Hi, I must install a mediawiki app with docker. Any suggestion?  I'm having problems with  https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-docker
[10:53:14] <LuisMiguel>	 gwicke, is this docker  project alive?
[11:20:54] <sapiency>	 andre_: ;-) one click to much ... and 2 pages I've to allow for everybody ..
[11:21:59] <sapiency>	 andre_: the access to this wiki has to be very restrictive ...
[11:22:26] <andre__>	 ? Why do you have to "allow for everybody"?
[11:22:31] <andre__>	 I don't get it.
[11:22:43] <andre__>	 allow what?
[11:25:44] <sapiency>	 as soon the mainpage is visible the disclaimer and the privacy page have to be available ... and at the moment it is just an idea ... but If I can change the links, nobody can  blame me that this pages are noch refered directly
[11:28:10] <sapiency>	 and I want to obviate cease and desist letters
[13:03:09] <yashafromrussia>	 hi everyone. im using img_auth.php to control file access through namespaces. files that are a part of the Main namespaces are working fine. all thumbnails are working fine (even the ones with a custom namespace). however, files with a custom namespace fail this check: $file->exists()
[13:03:18] <yashafromrussia>	 if i omit it, the file is returned fine. so it is there and is accessible by the web server
[13:03:25] <yashafromrussia>	 any idea why $file->exists() could be returning false?
[13:03:32] <yashafromrussia>	 the error im getting is: File "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/3002/6/65/Download.jpg" does not exist.
[13:05:53] <bikendi1991>	 Hola a todos
[13:06:18] <bikendi1991>	 Alguien que sepa español?
[13:07:21] <andre__>	 bikendi1991: un poco? Pero ingles es mejor. :)
[13:07:47] <bikendi1991>	 Bueno pero es que no se
[13:08:00] <bikendi1991>	 Es un gran probelma
[13:08:12] <bikendi1991>	 Problema
[13:08:39] <bikendi1991>	 Podria decirlo en castellano y podrias traducirlo?
[13:09:03] <bikendi1991>	 O si puedes ayudarme tu mismo...
[13:09:09] <bikendi1991>	 Mejor que mejor
[13:09:34] <bikendi1991>	 Digo mi problema
[13:09:38] <bikendi1991>	 Ver?
[13:09:44] <bikendi1991>	 A ver?
[13:28:47] <bikendi1991>	 Hello to all , there is some way of being able to contact or suggest improvements to the developers of Wikipedia?
[13:29:31] <Reedy>	 Do you mean MediaWiki or Wikipedia?
[13:29:45] <Reedy>	 Filing it in our bug tracker is usually the best way
[13:31:54] <bikendi1991>	 Spanish
[13:32:00] <bikendi1991>	 Please?
[13:32:06] <bikendi1991>	 :(
[13:32:10] <Reedy>	 Sorry, I don't speak spanish
[13:32:34] <Reedy>	 Platonides: How's your spanish? :P
[13:33:01] <bikendi1991>	 I don't english
[13:33:12] <bikendi1991>	 Platonides
[13:33:24] <bikendi1991>	 Que has preguntado?
[13:33:28] <Reedy>	 He's Portuguese...
[13:33:55] <andre__>	 bikendi1991: What kind of improvement?
[13:33:55] <Reedy>	 Trying to thinik who's spanish speaking in here
[13:34:33] <bikendi1991>	 Andre
[13:34:38] <Reedy>	 aude: How's your spanish? :P
[13:34:43] <bikendi1991>	 Tu sabes español
[13:34:48] <bikendi1991>	 No?
[13:34:59] <andre__>	 bikendi1991: no. :)
[13:35:03] <andre__>	 bikendi1991: But w kind of improvement?
[13:35:57] <AlvaroMolina>	 Reedy: bikendi1991 wants to ask whether there is any developer Wikipedia app that can help with a problem in that app.
[13:36:03] <Reedy>	 Mobile app?
[13:36:24] <bikendi1991>	 Yes
[13:38:24] <andre__>	 Hmm... I am  looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps#Get_Involved
[13:38:54] <andre__>	  #wikimedia-mobile maybe. (Though english)
[13:46:58] <Reedy>	 Unless AlvaroMolina wants to translate
[13:51:49] <AlvaroMolina>	 I have already sent #wikimedia-mobile
[13:53:32] <Reedy>	 I'm not sure there's any more spanish speakers in there though :)
[13:56:59] <Ducky^>	 is there an actual, simple way to get notes working on my wiki like in this page here? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Note
[13:57:14] <Ducky^>	 I can import the template easy enough, but it doesn't copy over the CSS
[13:57:21] <Ducky^>	 will I have to write the CSS myself?
[13:57:58] <Ducky^>	 I can't even figure out where I'd write said CSS
[13:59:36] <Reedy>	 You can steal the CSS
[14:01:38] <Reedy>	 !css
[14:01:38] <wm-bot>	 To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page (NOT a file) and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:Common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:Vector.css is for the Vector skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/CSS
[14:01:40] <Ducky^>	 where from? I can't find a reference to a css file in the source
[14:02:00] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-site.css
[14:02:11] <Reedy>	 Look at /* [[Template:Note]] */ and down
[14:11:16] <Ducky^>	 aha
[14:11:45] <Ducky^>	 I exported that css page and imported it to the Mediawiki:Common.css page on mine
[14:11:48] <Ducky^>	 and it seems to be working
[14:12:01] <Ducky^>	 although the images are still being pulled from upload.mediawiki
[14:12:04] <Ducky^>	 so I might changed that
[14:12:12] <Ducky^>	 thank you for the help
[14:15:38] <Ducky^>	 is the mediawiki images and css creative commons and ok to use elsewhere?
[14:16:36] <Ducky^>	 oh, I saw the notice, looks like it is
[14:18:17] <Reedy>	 yeha
[15:16:17] <gwicke>	 LuisMiguel: mediawiki-docker is not our top priority, but we'll get back to it soon
[15:17:03] <gwicke>	 there is work ongoing towards adopting kubernetes as well, and in that context the docker images should get new attention
[15:48:26] <charu>	 Hi, I'm new to open source development, although I'm good at C and C++. I'm thinking of applying for the outreachy internship, but I do not know the right way of doing so. I'm currently following https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Life_of_a_successful_project#Coming_up_with_a_proposal this page, can somebody guide me with the next steps, a small hint or something similar will also do. 
[15:49:48] <Reedy>	 charu: FWIW, don't let this discourage you, but we don't do much C and C++ stuff
[15:51:31] <charu>	 Sure, can you enlighten me about other fields, so i can start learning from today itself? I'm really sorry, I'm completely a newbie in this field, but I want to learn something about open source development.
[15:51:54] <Reedy>	 It depends what you want to do
[15:52:03] <Reedy>	 Most of MediaWiki is PHP, and increasingly more JS
[15:53:48] <charu>	 Which areas should be great to begin with, in PHP for MediaWiki? I've heard about a framework called Laravel in PHP
[15:54:13] <andre__>	 charu: have you checked the Possible-Tech-Projects linked from that page?
[15:54:36] <charu>	 no, not yet. Will do so immediately.
[15:54:38] <andre__>	 (We don't use Laravel.)
[15:56:15] <andre__>	 charu: Regarding "which areas to being with", see the links at the end of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Life_of_a_successful_project#Choosing_Wikimedia
[15:57:06] <charu>	 thanks a bunch @andre 
[15:57:11] <charu>	 :)
[17:05:16] <gabe>	 Hello, is it me, or is the atom feed for the English Wikinews done right now?
[17:05:18] <gabe>	 https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewsFeed&feed=atom&categories=Published&notcategories=No%20publish%7CArchived%7CAutoArchived%7Cdisputed&namespace=0&count=30&hourcount=124&ordermethod=categoryadd&stablepages=only
[17:07:47] <DanielK_WMDE>	 gabe: i'm getting a feed, it's just empty
[17:08:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 gabe: looks like there were no news for a long time (that may or may not be a technical problem)
[17:08:47] <DanielK_WMDE>	 anyway, if i increase the hour count in the url, i'm getting news items: https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewsFeed&feed=atom&categories=Published&notcategories=No%20publish|Archived|AutoArchived|disputed&namespace=0&count=30&hourcount=1240&ordermethod=categoryadd&stablepages=only
[17:11:28] <gabe>	 Okay, I'm fetching the articles too now with the new parameters thanks. I wasn't too familiar with the format of atom feeds, and the "( function(){ window.SIG_EXT = {}; } )()" at the bottom looked funky to me.
[18:45:27] <Platonides>	 Reedy: I'd have asked him to fill whatever in phabricator
[18:45:38] <Platonides>	 then one of us could bridge
[18:46:10] <Platonides>	 to be fair, it is possible that he already explained it in some channel…
[18:58:48] <awight>	 Any idea why I'm seeing "\u29fc" and "\u29fd" around missing messages?  This seems to be a fancy variation on "<" ">"...
[18:59:23] <Reedy>	 awight: I want to reply with some joke about being localisation friendly
[18:59:41] <awight>	 hehe, it very well might be...
[19:00:31] <awight>	 fwiw, var_export(RequestContext::getMain()->msg( 'notamessage' )->inLanguage( 'en' )->text(), false)
[19:02:37] <Reedy>	 that.. looks to have changed
[19:02:50] <MatmaRex>	 awight: Reedy: yeah, intentional change
[19:02:59] * Reedy finds his pitchfork
[19:03:01] <MatmaRex>	 i think it was so that we don't have to worry about HTML-escaping
[19:04:08] <awight>	 MatmaRex: aha, thanks!
[20:25:44] <yashafromrussia>	 hi everyonne. im trying to get the URL of a file using api.php using this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Imageinfo. But that only works for images. how can i get the url for a file given that i have its title?
[20:27:32] <Reedy>	 What's it do for non images?
[20:29:38] <rightfold>	 Hi, I have a question about user rights. On my wiki, Special:ListGroupRights lists that "(all)" is allowed to "Create discussion pages (createtalk)". However, when I try to create a new discussion page while logged out, I get a permission error. Is it possible to configure MediaWiki such that everybody can create/edit discussion pages, but not create/edit
[20:29:38] <rightfold>	 normal pages?
[20:30:18] <yashafromrussia>	 Reedy: returns this response: https://dpaste.de/4GY8
[20:31:28] <Vulpix>	 rightfold: does anons have also the edit right?
[20:31:28] <Platonides>	 does * have the edit permission?
[20:31:37] <Vulpix>	 heh
[20:31:43] <rightfold>	 Vulpix: nope
[20:31:54] <Platonides>	 Vulpix :)
[20:32:17] <rightfold>	 It would be nice if only logged in users can edit normal pages, but anons can only edit discussion pages
[20:32:28] <Reedy>	 yashafromrussia: Example url?
[20:32:40] <Platonides>	 rightfold: you can restrict that with an extension
[20:32:55] * Platonides tries to remember the name of Duesentrieb's one
[20:33:03] <Vulpix>	 Lockdown?
[20:33:05] <yashafromrussia>	 Reedy: here you go: http://example.com/api.php?action=query&titles=File:sample-pdf.pdf&prop=imageinfo&format=json&iiprop=url
[20:33:11] <Vulpix>	 !e Lockdown
[20:33:11] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown
[20:33:12] <Platonides>	 yep
[20:33:16] <rightfold>	 Nice, is it also possible to restrict it to subpages of a certain page?
[20:33:23] * DanielK_WMDE wibbles
[20:33:40] <rightfold>	 Thanks, I'll take a look at the extension :)
[20:34:09] <Platonides>	 hi DanielK_WMDE :)
[20:34:19] <Platonides>	 I didn't intend to ping you
[20:34:34] <Reedy>	 yashafromrussia: WFM
[20:34:34] <Reedy>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=File:Konkani_Viswakosh_Vol2.pdf&prop=imageinfo&format=jsonfm&iiprop=url
[20:36:44] <yashafromrussia>	 Reedy: *facepalm* im so sorry i bothered you.
[20:37:03] <yashafromrussia>	 Reedy: the problem is that im calling the api locally and wasnt providing a token
[20:37:10] <Reedy>	 lols
[21:29:31] <Dhaval>	 [[gu:ઢાંચો:Infobox settlement]] and [[gu:ઢાંચો:Infobox Indian Jurisdiction]] are broken on gu.wiki, can someone please help?
[21:30:00] <Dhaval>	 [[:gu:ઢાંચો:Infobox settlement]] and [[:g:ઢાંચો:Infobox Indian Jurisdiction]]
[21:30:28] <Vulpix>	 @link
[21:30:28] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/:gu:%e0%aa%a2%e0%aa%be%e0%aa%82%e0%aa%9a%e0%ab%8b:Infobox_settlement https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/:g:%e0%aa%a2%e0%aa%be%e0%aa%82%e0%aa%9a%e0%ab%8b:Infobox_Indian_Jurisdiction
[21:31:41] <Vulpix>	 Dhaval: you may want to elaborate on what's broken
[21:32:31] <Dhaval>	 Vulpix: when value for parameter population_total is given, it hides all the content of page
[21:33:59] <Dhaval>	 See https://gu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%AA%B8%E0%AB%81%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%A4&oldid=446746
[21:34:02] <Dhaval>	 and https://gu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%AA%B8%E0%AB%81%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%A4&diff=prev&oldid=446747
[21:36:38] <Tuxedo_>	 This is just a test after logging in on a different IRC client - please ignore.
[21:37:46] <Tuxedo_>	 Just testing if the authentication is working. Is anyone here?
[21:38:11] <iscu>	 yes
[21:38:24] <Tuxedo_>	 Thank you!
[21:38:28] <iscu>	 ;)
[21:39:19] <Ulthripe>	 Hi there!
[21:41:45] <MaxSem>	 yo
[21:42:01] <Dhaval>	 Hi Vulpix, any luck?
[21:42:13] <darkdreamingdan>	 hey guys, can anyone reccomend a wiki theme for documentation? i'm really a fan of gmod's skin but it seems proprietary http://wiki.garrysmod.com/
[21:42:42] <darkdreamingdan>	 Our documentation is currently entirely housed on mediawiki, but the content is very readthedocs-esque in nature
[21:42:49] <darkdreamingdan>	 but we're using the default theme so it's not ideal
[21:42:57] <Vulpix>	 no, sorry, I'm a bit busy right now, but be a bit patient, probably someone else reads the backlog and helps you
[21:43:05] <Ulthripe>	 I'm seeking a little assistance with mail functionality, is there someone that would be willing to give a hand?
[21:46:30] <darkdreamingdan>	 THanks, i appreciate the response
[21:56:02] <Dhaval>	 thanks
[21:56:48] <Vulpix>	 Dhaval: feel free to insist, repost the issue if nobody replies
[21:57:47] <Dhaval>	 can anyone else help me with fixing https://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AA%A2%E0%AA%BE%E0%AA%82%E0%AA%9A%E0%AB%8B:Infobox_Indian_Jurisdiction and https://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AA%A2%E0%AA%BE%E0%AA%82%E0%AA%9A%E0%AB%8B:Infobox_settlement
[21:58:41] <Dhaval>	 when value for parameter population_total is given, it hides all the content of page
[22:10:08] <alex1a>	 hello, which is the recommended path to put mediawiki? i'm on debian 8 jessie, and i'm using /var/www/mediawiki-* 
[22:11:08] <alex1a>	 my goal it's to put domain/wiki/MainPage
[22:12:05] <alex1a>	 my alias was Alias "/mediawiki" "/var/www/mediawiki-1.27.0/index.php", should i put Alias "/wiki" "/var/www/mediawiki/index.php" ??
[22:17:43] <Platonides>	 yes
[22:17:50] <Platonides>	 !shorturl
[22:17:50] <wm-bot>	 To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL> or try the new beta tool at <http://shorturls.redwerks.org/>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[22:24:03] <Dhaval>	 can anyone else help me with fixing https://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AA%A2%E0%AA%BE%E0%AA%82%E0%AA%9A%E0%AB%8B:Infobox_Indian_Jurisdiction and https://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AA%A2%E0%AA%BE%E0%AA%82%E0%AA%9A%E0%AB%8B:Infobox_settlement
[22:24:05] <Dhaval>	 	when value for parameter population_total is given, it hides all the content of page
[22:34:39] <rightfold>	 Is there some condition that decides whether subcategories are listed on a category page?
[22:40:55] <rightfold>	 Oh, hmm, apparently my category has no subcategories.
[22:42:34] <Reedy>	 always helps
[22:43:05] <rightfold>	 But I do have [[Category:Foo]] in another category page
[22:44:37] <Dhaval>	 hi guys, anyone to help me with my infobox issue?
[22:47:21] <marktraceur>	 Dhaval: What value do you put in that parameter?
[22:48:15] <Dhaval>	 marktraceur: I enter numeric value in population_total
[22:48:53] <Dhaval>	 in fact there were already values in the field, page content disappeared today, when removing value, page is displayed correctly
[22:51:49] <Dhaval>	 marktraceur: please see See https://gu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%AA%B8%E0%AB%81%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%A4&oldid=446746
[22:51:50] <Dhaval>	 	and https://gu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%AA%B8%E0%AB%81%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%A4&diff=prev&oldid=446747
[22:54:35] <marktraceur>	 Hm, I don't see anything obvious.
[22:56:58] <Dhaval>	 I imported a template earlier today, which revised few modules and templates
[22:57:06] <Dhaval>	 since than this is happening
[22:57:33] <marktraceur>	 Dhaval: Maybe that template is the problem, then, not these
[22:58:04] <Dhaval>	 that template in fact used Infobox settlement, so I don't think it will be a problem
[23:00:35] <marktraceur>	 Dhaval: Can you try reverting what you did, and seeing if it fixes the issue?
[23:01:11] <Dhaval>	 I am trying to
[23:01:17] <rightfold>	 Is there something else I have to do to make Category:Bar a subcategory of Category:Foo besides adding [[Category:Foo]] to the content of Category:Bar that isn't apparent from the MW documentation?
[23:01:23] <Dhaval>	 is there anyway I can revert the import?
[23:01:41] <marktraceur>	 rightfold: Is your wiki public? Can you link to the categories?
[23:02:40] <rightfold>	 marktraceur: https://foldr.nl/Category:PureScript should be a subcategory of https://foldr.nl/Category:Programming_language but it isn't (doesn't show up on the parent category page, in <categorytree>, or in MySQL categorylinks table)
[23:03:06] <Dhaval>	 marktraceur, I cannot revert individual templates that have been imported and overwritten
[23:08:35] <DanielK_WMDE>	 rightfold: that's odd. try a "null-edit": go to the edit page and hit save without changing anything.
[23:09:09] <rightfold>	 DanielK_WMDE: no difference
[23:09:49] <rightfold>	 Purging doesn't help. Clearing child content, then saving, then adding it back again doesn't help either.
[23:10:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 rightfold: quite strange. no idea, sorry 
[23:10:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 does it happen with other categories or pages?
[23:10:28] <rightfold>	 Similar for another pair of categories (Functor and Coyoneda)
[23:12:07] <marktraceur>	 rightfold: Have you changed anything recently?
[23:12:53] <rightfold>	 I added TLS today and I changed the domain name a few days ago
[23:13:16] <marktraceur>	 rightfold: Did subcategories work before that? I can't think why that would change anything
[23:13:37] <rightfold>	 No idea, I didn't try to use them before that
[23:13:42] <marktraceur>	 OK...
[23:14:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 rightfold: nice wiki you have there, btw! quite interesting
[23:14:16] <rightfold>	 thanks :)
[23:14:56] <rightfold>	 I switched from WordPress to MediaWiki because of categories, templates and instant commons mainly
[23:15:10] <rightfold>	 absolute killer features to have in a CMS
[23:16:25] <marktraceur>	 !cms
[23:16:25] <wm-bot>	 Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at <http://www.opensourcecms.com/> including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access.
[23:16:28] <marktraceur>	 Heh.
[23:16:40] <rightfold>	 lol
[23:18:24] <marktraceur>	 rightfold: Have you checked the log for fatals lately?
[23:18:31] <marktraceur>	 Or really any errors or warnings
[23:18:41] <marktraceur>	 It might be that the database failed somewhere and that's why there are problems
[23:19:19] <rightfold>	 How do I do that?
[23:19:50] <marktraceur>	 rightfold: I don't know where your logs are, obviously, but it's probably /var/log/apache2 or similar for your setup.
[23:24:15] <rightfold>	 when I save the subcategory page, the debug log says: Failed to start cron API: received 'HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently'
[23:24:20] <SpecUsr>	 Hi there, can anyone elaborate on the legality of selling services related to MediaWiki, like charging for customization, setup and troubleshooting
[23:24:32] <rightfold>	 maybe this cronjob should update the category links table
[23:24:41] <marktraceur>	 rightfold: Hm, maybe...
[23:24:53] <marktraceur>	 SpecUsr: AFAIK no problem.
[23:25:09] <SpecUsr>	 And if MediaWiki has any legal representation. Who owns MediaWiki
[23:25:35] <marktraceur>	 SpecUsr: The various developers "own" the copyright, but allow free distribution and reuse.
[23:26:59] <SpecUsr>	 Thanks, crazy world we live in where things are banned when bosses lack thee brain cells
[23:27:09] <marktraceur>	 SpecUsr: Banned?
[23:28:05] <SpecUsr>	 yes, banned from using it due to GNU license, worried about lawsuits etc. (off the rocker, I say) so had to check...
[23:28:09] <marktraceur>	 SpecUsr: If your boss is concerned, maybe they should talk to a lawyer.
[23:28:44] <marktraceur>	 SpecUsr: The GPL probably won't apply after you download it, the only person to whom it applies is the person running the software (i.e. you, if you're the sysadmin)
[23:29:12] <marktraceur>	 SpecUsr: Obviously, this is not legal advice and I am not a lawyer.
[23:30:08] <SpecUsr>	 might do, but sometimes it's easier to have them spend some money on other SAAS platforms, empty pockets change minds faster than lawyer talk...
[23:30:25] <rightfold>	 marktraceur: ah, apparently you shouldn't put MW in the web root: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory
[23:30:36] <marktraceur>	 rightfold: Well, yes. Is that why it stopped working?
[23:30:49] <rightfold>	 Perhaps that causes the redirect issue
[23:30:54] <marktraceur>	 Maybe...
[23:36:15] <rightfold>	 marktraceur: yay, I fixed it :)
[23:36:45] <marktraceur>	 rightfold: What was the problem?
[23:36:48] <rightfold>	 the issue was that $wgServer was set to http://..., not https://..., and nginx was set up to redirect to https://..., so the cronjob failed.
[23:36:48] <marktraceur>	 Oh, I see
[23:36:55] <marktraceur>	 Cool cool cool
[23:37:57] <alex1a>	 my .sql file has 29 mb, it's normal ?
[23:38:20] <alex1a>	 i'm importing the file4ever, never ends (phpmyadmin)
[23:48:57] <darkdreamingdan>	 Hey guys, does anyone know how i can achieve the sidebar like in this mediawiki:  http://wiki.garrysmod.com/ ?
[23:54:16] <alex1a>	 no problem, edit php.ini and find max upload size.
[23:56:12] <marktraceur>	 darkdreamingdan: They have a custom skin, called "garrysmod".
[23:56:38] <alex1a>	 darkdreamingdan, seems to be a theme. http://wiki.garrysmod.com/page/MediaWiki:Sidebar. for doc see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar
[23:56:41] <darkdreamingdan>	 which i guess is unreleased
[23:57:09] <marktraceur>	 darkdreamingdan: It's not obviously available...