[00:39:03] going to bed now [00:57:33] good night [00:57:38] too late [00:57:54] and I will try set this think up [00:57:59] *thing [01:49:58] Você precisa fazer o download desse arquivo e colocá-lo na raiz da sua instalação (o mesmo diretório onde está o arquivo index.php). [01:50:05] I ave found no index.php [01:50:08] ups [01:51:00] sorry... "You need to make the download from this data an put it in root of the installation, where index.php is. [01:51:42] I have found no index.php, but I think that the root is: C:\xampp\apps\mediawiki\w right? [01:53:47] yes...the index is there :) [01:55:07] done... woking !!! [01:55:13] *working [03:02:52] good night thanks [07:07:11] hello [07:08:02] i'm still trying to figure out why i failed to make it work that {{#if:}} syntax [07:34:39] here the template: http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Species feel free to check the code source [08:05:06] anypony here? [08:42:20] is that correct for a template: | Designation || {{#if: {{{designation}}} |''unknown''| }} ? [08:43:12] because i'm trying to type |Designation= test but it give empty instead. [08:43:40] it worked because it's what i want to make unknown gone after i typed it. [09:34:16] i mean: when i use that "|Designation =" it will turn as "Designation unknown" which it worked but when i try "|Designation = test" it became "Designation " [09:34:27] which didn't worked like i wanted [09:39:20] i probably missed something... [10:02:49] Hi [10:03:09] I need support regarding the AES 256 GCM mode support for Windows XP? [10:04:18] Can anybody knows about AES 256 GCM Windows XP support? [10:04:47] who still use win XP ? it's been age i haven't used winXP XD;; [10:05:00] and sorry, couldn't help you [10:05:46] because i switched it to linux some weeks ago [10:06:59] There is still a very big user base of Windows XP [10:07:26] I have a product of user files backup which works on XP and later [10:07:40] I want to add file encryption before backup [10:07:44] i see [10:07:56] I am trying to choose the best encryption method for it [10:07:58] but lately, win7 is now bigger than win xp [10:08:13] I have read AES 256 GCM is more latest then AES 256 CBC [10:08:20] and fewer than linux now [10:08:43] AES 256 CBC is supported from Windows XP to all later OS [10:09:06] but AES 256 GCM is not supported on Windows XP [10:09:50] in the default libraries provided by Microsoft [10:10:02] I want to know whether Crypto++ also has the same limitation [10:10:27] to work only on Windows Vista and later [10:10:28] that is problably because microsoft trashed winXP for AES 256 GCM [10:10:55] they did that with directx [10:11:25] for example: i can't have directx 12 on win7 or win8 but can be used for win10 and more only [10:14:15] so, you will not be able to use it [10:14:24] sorry [10:15:17] the other solution is switching winxp for linux system because every internet server is linux [10:18:26] the other solution is switching winxp for linux system because every internet server is linux? [10:18:30] sorry I don't get it [10:19:14] it's simple: did you know that the server we're using here is on a linux system? [10:19:15] My issue is if user tries to restores files backed up from Windows 10 in AES 256 GCM mode on Windows XP, it will not work [10:19:32] Crypto++ is offline module [10:19:39] CyptoPP [10:19:56] where I can encrypt and decrypt files offline without connecting to Internet [10:20:11] that is because you can't open the backup with that encryption on winxp [10:20:28] and like i said early, it's exactly like with directx [10:20:32] Using a middle server for encryption and decryption purpose costs a lot [10:20:40] yep [10:20:43] that i know [10:21:00] but you can still install an alternative OS other than winxp [10:21:15] that is what i did for my mediawiki offline [10:22:06] Operating system are present on user pc, I cann't change their OS to use the backup software only [10:23:08] you can change it easily now [10:23:27] how [10:23:39] My service is similar to dropbox [10:24:03] dropbox can be used by any user irrespective of his OS [10:24:03] i mean: with a simple CD/DVD/blu-ray copy or USB key of one linux distro and it will tell you what to do [10:24:21] thanks allaze-eroler for the support, can I get your email address? [10:24:50] sorry no, i don't share email for some reason [10:24:50] We can later discuss on email if you don't mind [10:25:13] thanks for your support , I will check for the solutions :) [10:25:35] np [10:25:58] by the way, with linux, you have almost 100% retro-compatibility [10:26:09] contrary to windows system [10:26:38] no mention that the linux system is free ;) [10:27:31] ubuntu is the most comon used but for mediawiki, it's debian which it's commonly used for server [10:42:18] sudhirkumarsharm: how is "AES 256 GCM mode" exactly related to MediaWiki? [10:42:42] andre__: lol xp [10:43:49] i told him it will not be possible [10:44:01] because how old winxp is ^^; [10:44:28] was he talking about mediawiki backups or so? [10:44:33] also, do you know what is the problem i have with the {{#if:}} syntax? [10:44:40] yep [10:44:55] about bakup [10:46:40] when i use that "|Designation =" it will turn as "Designation unknown" which it worked but when i try "|Designation = test" it became "Designation " which it failed to work [10:47:34] | Homeworld || {{#if: {{{planet}}} | ''unknown'' |}} that is what i did [10:47:35] {{#if:{{{Designation|}}}||} [10:47:55] Not 100% sure, but that looks familiar [10:48:07] hum [10:48:24] | Designation || {{#if: {{{designation}}} | ''unknown'' |}} that is what i did [10:49:18] well, that is because i talked about that problem last night [10:49:20] Usually, doing by example is easiest [10:49:55] nods [10:50:05] note the | at the end of your parameter name [10:50:26] in my example, that is [10:50:56] here the site http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Species [10:51:00] | Designation || {{#if: {{{designation|}}} | ''unknown'' |} [10:51:20] let me try that out [10:51:21] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_airport&action=edit [10:51:40] | rowclass4 = note [10:51:41] | label4 = {{#if:{{{owner-oper|}}}|Owner/Operator|Owner}} [10:51:41] | data4 = {{#if:{{{owner-oper|}}}|{{{owner-oper}}}|{{{owner|}}}}} [10:52:29] i see [10:53:11] how do i hide the row by omitting the "designation =" ? [10:53:56] ahhhh i think i see why [10:55:52] drat, lunch time [10:56:00] i will test that later [11:08:04] hello [11:08:08] i need a little help [11:11:31] i've set up media wiki and it works fine [11:11:37] it just doesn't want to send emails [11:11:44] i've tried a lot of combos, none of them seem to work [11:17:31] back [11:22:31] pfff doesn't work... [11:38:13] anyone [11:38:13] :/ [11:38:16] here my wiki page on my species i created: http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Curiosetis common.css file: http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css and the template: http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Species [11:38:37] sorry, i have no idea how it work since i haven't yet tried it [11:51:33] did you checked my links? [11:51:45] oh and you can use anonymous user [11:52:02] Login with the username Anonymous and the password teasemeplease [12:09:53] Reedy: are you there? [12:32:28] wb andre__ [12:34:58] allaze-eroler: Hi. What is "wb"? [12:35:56] it can mean warner bros or wrestlers bitches or still wasted boss but most of time, it mean Welcome Back :p [12:36:24] heh. [12:36:37] my first thought was "works better". [12:36:49] that could works indeed :) [12:47:40] ok, i finally fixed the TOC problem thank to CSS system :) [12:47:46] it's much cleaner now XD [12:48:40] a simple {|class="TOC" | |__TOC__||} is enough! :D [13:42:12] I need some help with import and export translation [13:42:24] Can anybody help me? [13:43:15] Patoow77: Don't know yet. :) What is your followup question? [13:44:19] I try the translations export offline, after exporting a page, I make an offline translation of the .po file. When I import it with "SpecialːImportTranslation", the program say ː Import complete, but I don't find nothing in Translate... I don't understand why. have U An Idea how I can find the problem, fix it? [13:46:21] Maybe ask in #mediawiki-i18n . Version info (which MediaWiki version?) also welcome there. [13:47:19] thanks I'll ansk this there [14:15:06] when i use !class="source"| Source: !! [[Template:Species|Species]] all i get is the first header worked but not the second... what is happening? [14:16:36] see here: http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Species and here http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css [14:16:45] in the last css code [14:42:17] allaze-eroler: i'm not sure i understand what the problem is. the template looks okay to me? [14:44:51] 2 problems i faced: the first problem is the displaying the information instead of "unknown" all i get is blank information whenever i type Designation = test [14:45:23] the second problem is the orange header that show source [14:46:02] one is orange and the second is purple, what i want i both orange and continuous [14:46:47] ah yes, i forgot that link: http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Curiosetis [14:48:22] which i'm firguring out why it doesn't work... [14:52:18] when i use that "|Designation =" it will turn as "Designation unknown" which it worked but when i try "|Designation = test" it became "Designation " which it failed to work [14:52:49] it's still one of these problem [14:52:52] so far [14:56:05] allaze-eroler: i'm pretty sure this is not correct: [14:56:06] {{#if: {{{designation}}} | ''unknown'' |}} [14:56:13] if i understand correctly, it should be: [14:56:30] {{#if: {{{designation}}} | {{{designation}}} | ''unknown'' }} [14:56:51] and the same for all the other parameters [14:56:53] i will test it out [14:57:18] also, note that the names are case-sensitive. so you have to use "| designation = …" rather than "| Designation = …" [14:57:39] i noticed that which i fixed it [14:59:07] ahhhh [14:59:11] it worked!!!! [14:59:17] so, it was THAT simple! [14:59:30] no wonder why i wasn't able to fix it XD; [15:01:18] :) [15:01:38] now the last problem is that "source" header.... [15:06:25] is there a way to hum nevermind, i thin i found a way [15:06:57] nah, i'm not sure... [15:07:13] is there a way to hide the unused data? [15:07:34] i mean for example, i want to hide class, subspecies and races? [15:09:16] here 2 examples: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Selonian and http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Humans noticed how some of these data are different between these species [15:09:19] you'd have to wrap the whole table row in {{#if … }}. the table syntax and #if syntax conflict a bit and it's a pain, but it can be done [15:09:34] i see [15:10:14] Yeah, #if generally does the trick. [15:10:14] there are two ways, whichever you prefer: either use … syntax for table rows (line in HTML), or use "{{!}}" instead of "|" for the table syntax [15:10:25] I use that for a number of infoboxes like that on my wikis. [15:17:10] humm so, it's with that {{!}} right? [15:18:37] allaze-eroler: Yes, you use that instead of pipes "|", since pipes have their own meaning within parser functions like #if. [15:19:01] an example? [15:20:56] allaze-eroler: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#Escaping_pipe_characters_in_tables [15:26:09] you mean like this: {{!}}Designation || {{#if: {{{designation|}}} | {{{designation}}} | ''unknown'' }} ? [15:28:02] allaze-eroler: {{#if:{{{parameter|}}}|{{!}}-{{!}} Row contents {{!}}{{!}} More row content }} [15:28:07] More like something like that ^ [15:28:17] ah! i see now [15:28:36] It always ends up looking rather ugly in my experience :P [15:28:39] let me fix it out! [15:28:45] haha true [15:28:56] which is why they created scribunto instead [15:29:04] to make it thing prettier XD; [15:29:06] Probably. Haven't used it. [15:29:24] i tried once, too confusing and so little information.... [15:31:31] |Designation {{!}}{{!}} {{#if: {{{designation|}}} {{!}} {{{designation}}} ''unknown'' }} correct? [15:31:49] you're missing some |'s [15:32:10] Assuming that very first pipe is a parser pipe rather than a table pipe, yes. If it is a table pipe though, you're likely to have an issue. [15:32:10] in the #if [15:32:30] {{#if:condition|then|else}} [15:32:39] the else is optional, but the then is not [15:32:40] indeed [15:32:45] and you're missing the "then" in that example [15:32:55] Yeah, that one shouldn't be escaped. [15:33:02] The one between the two "designation" parameters. [15:33:13] what i want is able to add or remove the | designation= when creating an infobox [15:33:41] {{#if: {{{designation|}}} | {{!}} {{{designation}}} | ''unknown'' }} [15:33:48] is likely what you want [15:34:08] maybe [15:34:09] idk [15:34:26] the {{!}} might not be needed, depends on what surrounds that if [15:34:38] the unescaped |'s are definitely needed, as they're part of the if [15:36:52] it doesn't seem to work... i did this: |Designation {{!}}{{!}} {{#if: {{{designation|}}} | {{!}} {{{designation}}} | ''unknown'' }} [15:37:23] i even tried to change every | to {{!}} [15:37:40] What exactly are you trying to do, and in what context? [15:37:45] It isn't clear from that snippet. [15:38:53] like i said early, if i have a list |designation=, |class=, |races= what i need is only designation, so, only one |designation= will be used [15:39:17] which the table will display only designation* [15:39:32] the 2 other row will be hidden as invisible [15:39:53] Basically, you have an infobox template with three parameters, and all/most of them are optional? [15:40:07] And in the cases where they're optional, you want them hidden completely? Or replaced with a default value? [15:40:17] completely [15:40:31] How does the template currently look? [15:40:58] http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Species here my template [15:41:22] Thanks! [15:41:28] I'll get back to you shortly. [15:41:34] ok [15:42:06] here the wiki i'm trying to use that infobox: http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Curiosetis [15:42:47] the other problem i have is that source link ^^; [15:43:47] {{#if: {{{designation|}}}|{{!}}Designation {{!}}{{!}} {{{designation}}} {{!}}-}} [15:44:04] thx! [15:44:07] Replace the designation line and the table row separator below it (|-) with that. [15:44:33] so like this |-{{#if: {{{designation|}}}|{{!}}Designation {{!}}{{!}} {{{designation}}} {{!}}-}}? [15:44:39] kiinda [15:44:46] you need to insert some newlines [15:44:52] Yeah, you'll need a newline too. [15:44:58] ok [15:45:04] Right before the last exclamation mark template. [15:45:06] {{!}} Designation needs to start on its own line, as does {{!}}- [15:45:26] i have anonymous used for people who doesn't want to register XD; [15:45:30] user* [15:45:34] {{#if: {{{designation|}}}|{{!}}Designation {{!}}{{!}} {{{designation}}} [15:45:37] {{!}}-}} [15:45:47] i will test out then [15:45:53] That'll work. On the line after a |- [15:46:14] Here it is in context: https://gist.github.com/Meneth/326b8441cc7dc425d59e85a2a48fb06e [15:47:10] ah i see now! [15:47:38] thx! [15:47:43] (Meaningful whitespace really is the worst :P) [15:47:44] i will test it out asap! [15:47:53] hahah XD [15:48:03] allaze-eroler: No problem! You should be able to just repeat it in that style for all the rest. [15:48:14] that will not be a problem :) [15:49:46] ah yes, i wanted to keep that ''unknown'' ^^; [15:50:13] When would you show that though? I thought you wanted to hide the whole row if the parameter wasn't filled out. [15:51:02] oh what i mean: when it's show only designation= it will turn as Designation unknown but can be removed as optional [15:51:19] that method you showed me work pretty well [15:52:26] guess i will add an extra thing like this: {{#if: {{{designation|}}}|{{!}}Designation {{!}}{{!}} {{{designation}}}| ''unknown'' {{!}}-}} [15:52:42] If you want the removal of the row to be optional, you'd need a second parameter or a magic string you'd put in the designation to hide it. [15:53:21] With the code I gave you, there's only two states: Row hidden, or a row with data. If I understand correctly, you want three possible states: Row hidden, row with data, row saying "unknown". [15:53:47] yep [15:53:50] that is it [15:54:41] That does complicate it, but it can still be done. Though you might whether it'd be more common for ''unknown'' or row hiding to happen. [15:55:04] If a hidden row is more likely, the easiest solution is likely just to have the editor enter ''unknown'' as the actual data. [15:55:28] i see [15:55:48] ah idea [15:56:10] Because to have three states you need to have one of two solutions: some way to indicate to *keep* the row, or some way to indicate to *hide* the row. [15:56:10] i will just add that unknown in the sample then [15:56:35] and so, someone will just change unknown with a different word [15:56:40] The former is easier since simply putting something in the parameter already indicates that the row is to be kept. [15:56:41] that could work? [15:56:55] * allaze-eroler nods [15:56:57] That sounds like it'd work, yes. [15:57:14] And then they'd just remove the parameter entirely if the row is to be hidden. [15:57:23] i want to keep simple enough to be used and i hate complicating stuff [15:57:29] yep! [15:57:44] i will improve the documentation to explain how to use it [15:58:03] Keeping things simple is definitely critical :) [15:58:16] yes it's my primary reason [15:58:25] if it's not simple, it's not use [15:59:05] Yeah. If a template isn't making something simpler, then what is the point of having a template? [15:59:41] exactly! [15:59:50] it's a common problem at wikipedia [16:00:05] and other site that just copy and paste from wikipedia [16:00:07] Of course, the goal doesn't have to be to make something simpler for regular editors, but it definitely shouldn't make it harder. [16:00:20] yep [16:00:24] E.G., the goal might be to make updating stuff easier for administrators. [16:00:42] what i hate the most is combining 2 code languages in one file.... [16:00:50] yep [16:00:57] For example, my wikis have versioning templates saying what version of the game a page or section is for. That doesn't make things easier for editors, as that's one more thing to keep track off. [16:01:11] But without it, ensuring the wikis are kept up to date as new versions of the game come out would be impossible. [16:01:14] i see [16:01:20] like with stellaris wiki [16:01:28] That's one of my wikis, yeah :) [16:01:56] oh! [16:02:06] so it was you who made it? sweet! [16:02:19] It and most other Paradox related wikis. [16:02:28] interesting! [16:02:36] another goal of templates is to provide a unified appearance across pages [16:02:43] it's funny because i bough stellaris some days ago XD [16:02:52] Skizzerz: I'd probably put that in the class of "making things easier for editors". [16:02:56] yes that is what i plan :) [16:02:56] or to tie into other functionality that depends on page content (although scribunto is generally easier for that) [16:03:02] allaze-eroler: The main wiki farm I run: https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Farm:Paradox_Wikis [16:03:25] i never though i meet one staff from paradox XD; [16:03:39] or a regular fan ? :) [16:04:06] Used to be independent, but Paradox owns my wikis as of two years ago. I'm a contractor for them these days. [16:04:32] ahhh being a contractor is kind of nice :) [16:05:45] allaze-eroler: It is! [16:09:53] almost done! [16:14:58] AWESOME [16:15:41] how to display the /doc in the template? [16:15:53] is there a small code to add? [16:16:05] nevermind, i will check the wiki from various site [16:16:42] allaze-eroler: You'll want a template like this: http://www.eu4wiki.com/Template:Template_doc [16:16:53] Then you can just put it in the template in a section. [16:17:25] oh i though so! [16:17:36] i noticed that {{documentation}} [16:17:41] and thx! [16:18:14] oops [16:18:24] i lost the copy of documentation XD; [16:18:32] fortunately, there is history [16:19:58] nevermind, it wasn't gone XD; [16:20:02] i forgot i did saved it lol [16:21:51] ah yes i will need that template doc inline thing [16:25:43] http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Species here! [16:26:51] that is much better than i though :) [16:26:55] thank for the help! [16:27:05] allaze-eroler: Looks nice! [16:27:21] last problem to fix: that source thing... [16:27:42] You've got anonymous editing turned off. [16:27:52] If you want to turn it on, you're gonna need protections or you'll be hit with spam though. [16:28:12] which i create an account for anonymous [16:28:28] Login with the username Anonymous and the password teasemeplease [16:29:09] It probably makes more sense to enable anonymous editing and have filters stopping spam bots. [16:29:22] ok [16:29:31] With an anon account like that, if someone decides to vandalize your wiki using it your only recourse will be blocking the whole account. [16:29:32] how i have to do it? [16:29:40] i see [16:29:52] in this case, i will remove the ano account then [16:30:22] Enabling anon editing is simple. [16:30:26] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = true; [16:30:33] But without filters you'll quickly be hit by spam bots. [16:30:48] i agree [16:30:57] To avoid that, you might want to use CAPTCHAs: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit [16:30:58] which i haven't enabled it XD; [16:31:09] ok [16:31:19] And you can also set up custom filters: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter [16:31:59] The AbuseFilter extension can be configured to block pretty much all spam, with the occasional false positive. [16:33:47] i apparently already have them XD; [16:33:58] Even the AbuseFilter? [16:34:14] ConfirmEdit is included in the MW install though, yeah. [16:34:58] the captcha [16:35:21] but not abusefilter [16:42:59] just for fun: do you happen to know what is the first game of paradox? [16:43:35] Europa Universalis I. [16:46:37] i changed the question related to games creation XD [16:46:57] like: what is the first game of Naughty Dog? [16:47:09] Crash Bandicoot :) [16:47:13] Might be a bit much of a barrier to entry. [16:48:02] hummm it will take age to upload that abusefilter [16:51:16] allaze-eroler: Do you have SSH access to your server? [16:51:29] yes why? [16:51:42] In that case it is much quicker to download directly to the server rather than upload via FTP. [16:51:51] oh i see [16:51:58] well, i get used with ftp XD; [16:52:08] but i finished uploading by the way [16:52:25] FTP is lovely, but it can be quite slow. Especially if you're uploading many files, or your upload speed is low. [16:53:00] Instead, you can use "wget https://DOWNLOAD_URL" to download directly to your server. [16:53:16] Which will likely take a couple of seconds rather than half a minute or whatever. [16:53:26] interesting [16:54:06] ok, anon edit enabled! [16:54:30] Do note that for the AbuseFilter to do anything, you'll need to set up filters! [16:54:42] indeed! [16:55:08] i got that : to: navigation, search [16:55:15] This one is quite useful: http://www.central.paradoxwikis.com/Special:AbuseFilter/17 [16:55:29] wrong paste, here i got that: A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software [16:55:37] You need to run the update script. [16:55:56] "php WIKIINSTALL/maintenance/update.php" via SSH. [16:56:34] ok [16:56:44] The database tables the AbuseFilter needs don't exist until you do that, so you get database query errors. [16:56:56] ok [17:10:29] i tried the php update.php but doesn't work because i use an older version of php [17:10:38] even though i'm on php 7 [17:11:10] What error message are you getting? [17:11:24] Error: You might be using on older PHP version. [17:11:34] MediaWiki 1.27 needs PHP 5.5.9 or higher. [17:11:46] eveb though it's say 7.0 [17:12:04] Might be PHP in the command line is an old version. [17:12:16] possible [17:12:46] allaze-eroler: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Web_browser Try this then. [17:13:21] Though you should probably figure out that PHP issue when you get the chance. [17:13:37] nods [17:17:41] i upgraded my ubuntu server to xenial (oops!), and after install the ppa php packages, I can run mediawiki and login, but all the pages' bodies are blank. I get the header, sidebar, etc.... but every page looks like it has no content [17:18:11] good! fixed! [17:18:38] under the covers, the `parse` function does indeed create some output (specifically the NewPP comment)... it just doesn't output the article [17:20:35] look like i can't import your filter XD; [17:20:48] Oh? [17:21:06] [V@lYzgoAQMMAAEVGNH8AAACL] /w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseFilter/new MWException from line 607 of /home/nofronti/allaze-eroler/w/includes/htmlform/HTMLForm.php: HTMLForm: no submit callback provided. Use setSubmitCallback() to set one. [17:21:11] that is what i get [17:21:14] Huh. [17:21:38] and internal error [17:21:50] That really is rather strange. [17:22:31] since i clicked "export this filter to another wiki" [17:23:21] Still, you should be able to copy it manually. [17:23:54]