[06:33:52] +2 on a patch( in gerrit ) means it could be merged? [08:16:40] hellooo [08:40:32] are you here Meneth ? :) [09:17:18] ok, i'm done hiding the text that will explain how the infobox works. :D [09:48:10] Good Morning, I want to create a wikipage and host it on my webserver. I have seen people do this before without it being hosted (or linked in anyway to wikipedia) is this fairly straightforward if at all doable? [09:48:51] if you wan to install it on your computer locally, it's possible with the help of xampp [09:49:23] i would recommand you to install it on a linux system because it's well documented. [09:49:42] there is some part of documentation that needed to be updated. [09:50:27] i installed it on my old laptop that is now served as an offline mediawiki XD; [09:50:37] allaze thanks, and in an ideal world I would use linux. Unfortunately it will need to be windows server 2012 [09:50:53] ah! i see [09:51:34] well, as i know little, i heard it shouldn't be a problem thank to mysql system which it's compatible across platform [09:52:22] brb [09:53:37] back [09:54:02] with the bakup system, it should work fine [09:54:25] that way, you can transfert from localhost to your webserver [09:55:01] if you know the ssh, you will be able to install them easily [09:55:46] just one question: can you try to change the windows server 2012 to debian? [09:55:53] or other linux distro [09:56:07] on your webserver [09:56:32] allaze, unfortunately not I manage the server but I don't "own" it [09:56:45] on my shared webserver, i was able to choose which os system [09:56:49] i see [09:57:06] so, what you have is a shared webserver [09:57:10] my "Landlord" doesn't mind me redecorating, but he doesn't want me knocking walls down [09:57:23] i see [09:58:02] in this case, ask your "weblord" if he could switch windows server 2012 to linux distro [09:58:24] if yes, go for it! [09:59:56] Allaze, I have and they wont [10:01:49] if not, you can always try to find a different host for it, or go at one of these site: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services [10:03:06] or you can try checking it out: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/jeff_stokes/2013/06/24/how-to-stand-up-a-mediawiki-on-windows-server-2012-10-easy-steps-with-pictures/ [10:03:51] Thanks allaze, I shall check those out [10:04:00] welcome [10:04:17] i mean welcomed [10:09:49] oh and rememver duggy, always keep your wiki simple enough to work with, especially with your fans that could create article! [10:10:42] and also, use less html coding to avoid the confusion with wikitext. [10:10:42] Allaze - those links you provided were a big help, running through the install now. I doubt I'll have very many "fans" :) [10:11:11] haha well, it's for you get your idea of what i mean ;) [10:11:23] and i'm glad you find them useful [10:11:57] i'm been through that so, it's normal to help newbies :) [15:22:21] hi [15:28:28] what is the most simple way to install mediawiki on a paid web server? [15:30:50] moving the files there and then using the installer [15:31:28] I do not know much about this kinda thing sorry [15:31:32] using either SSH client or FTP [15:31:45] but most people here use SHH because it's faster [15:31:53] no worry [15:32:00] is it hard to use with (I have never used this sort of stuff before) [15:32:13] SSH is usually preferred because it makes other stuff much easier [15:32:17] !install [15:32:17] Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [15:32:25] here the instruction [15:32:27] speed wise if you're transfering the tar file, ftp should be as fast as ssh or scp [15:32:31] i would not prefer ssh especially for a beginner [15:32:39] I had the idea of paying for a web server and putting mediawiki on it [15:32:50] if my wiki gets big eachnogh [15:33:13] why is ssh faster than ftp? [15:33:30] Thinking of using something like tis: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Software_bundles#MediaWiki_software_appliances [15:33:54] because you don't need to download file from your computer, it will just transfert from server to your server [15:34:14] * bawolff has never heard of anything in that section of the page [15:34:22] anyway, you can check here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services if you don't want to install your own wiki in your own server [15:34:33] oh you meant transfering via curl. Yeah that would be faster probably [15:34:53] BurningPrincess: What type of server are you using? [15:35:01] or are you still deciding [15:35:30] I have not broght it but I saw a [Massive] OpenVZ SSD-Cached one [15:35:51] 256MB CVZ 256 / 128 MB 1 Core 1 /64 120 GB 1000 GB $8 / qtr NYC / ATL / SEA / LA / NL [15:35:54] I mean, is it a Linux server [15:36:01] From: http://www.ramnode.com/vps.php [15:36:07] I do not know [15:36:08] i need to update my old websever i bough since 2008 XD; [15:37:20] Oh, they let you choose from a wide variety [15:37:35] If you use Ubuntu, you can just do [15:38:19] I could local insell this: https://bitnami.com/stack/mediawiki [15:38:29] you could use debian packages [15:38:35] Which would probably be pretty easy [15:38:37] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2016-September/086578.html [15:39:59] I have a windows 7 laptop by the way [15:40:25] i had a windows xp on my old laptop, i switched it as ubuntu :) [15:40:46] and use it for offline mediawiki :) [15:41:14] I would want it online, (why i am looking at web hoting) [15:41:34] BurningPrincess: Since you're not running it on your laptop, it doesn't matter that much which OS you have. However with windows you may have to install something like PuTTY in order to use ssh [15:41:35] i can see that [15:41:53] The site that hosts my wiki at this time does that seem t have much server space left [15:41:59] *does not [15:42:00] but offline mediawiki is usefull for testing before to make it on the online mediawiki [15:42:23] I have used Mediawiki a lot only online hosted [15:42:33] on wiki farms [15:42:46] that is what i did for using the software putty for ssh line command [15:46:34] This seems good: http://installatron.com/mediawiki/install [15:47:19] ah that is interesting! [15:47:33] just need to get a server [15:48:00] but be careful with that, you could messed up your server if not properly parameted [15:48:21] plus it could possibly get hacked [15:49:39] BurningPrincess: if you go with a VPS, please be diligent in keeping everything up-to-date (both the OS on the VPS as well as any applications you install on it) [15:49:59] k [15:50:12] yep! [15:50:16] if you aren't comfortable with learning linux system administration skills, it may be better to seek out a shared hosting provider instead (where they manage all the backend stuff for you) [15:50:47] which i showed you early [15:50:53] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services here [15:51:01] they tend to be cheaper, too, but you have less control. If you go down that route, you will want to ensure that the provider supports recent PHP versions as well as provides shell/SSH access [15:51:22] yep [15:51:57] (there are hundreds of hosts out there, far more than what is linked on that page) [15:52:17] yep that too [15:52:34] that page i shared need to be updated though XD [15:53:09] managed VPS/managed server is the best of both worlds -- you get total control but you also have the host doing backend stuff for you, but expect to pay a *lot* for that service [15:53:46] very likely not worth it, unless you plan on monetizing your site somehow [15:53:52] (to recoup the costs) [15:54:00] heh [15:54:40] i use OVH because it have interesting shared web host system plus, it's cheap because of yearly system [15:54:52] i pay roughly 80€ per year [15:54:52] I use Mirhese [15:55:03] I have been global banned from wki [15:55:05] *wikia [15:55:19] ah! [15:55:19] what happened? [15:56:41] i mean: why you got global banned from wikia? [15:59:24] i planned to use wikia because it have the coolest visual editor but when i read the TOS (term of service) i gave up because what i was going to create my wikia, it doesn't have any fanbase so... i figured that i have to create my own wiki on my site [16:00:36] which i heard of mediawiki thank to that site: http://www.casualvillain.com/Unsounded/ (you will find the wiki section) [16:00:50] i wanted my site under a cc-by-nc-sa lisnace [16:01:12] Tou breaking for uploading copyrighted lyrics [16:01:12] ah i see [16:01:26] no wonder [16:02:56] it's dangerous to upload a copyrighted content to a common creative license... [16:04:54] allaze-eroler: You like the wikia editor better than VisualEditor? [16:05:17] oh no no no i misexplained [16:05:19] I like the old editirs [16:06:05] i mean: since it's a shared hosted mediawiki, it have visual editor but i can't use that wikia because of TOS, the other site lack of this [16:06:11] i mean lack of visual editor [16:06:40] i tried to install the visual editor for my wiki but found out it miss various files to make it work... [16:06:53] yeah, VisualEditor is a PITA to install [16:08:20] and not only that, it need to access the core webserver... which it could have a potential hack on the webserver [16:09:57] creating page with visual editor worked fine but when i try to edit that say page, i get an error 7 [16:10:09] that is where i found out it miss some files [16:10:44] that is what i have to create these say files >_< [16:12:50] I am trying self hosting (i am very worried about getting banned agin) [16:12:58] *well free web hoting [16:15:31] Trying instulling on this: cpanel.1free-host.com [16:16:03] i though i read "trying insulting on this" XD; [16:16:11] but you wanted to mean installing XD [16:16:55] what an obscur site! [16:17:10] it show all but nonthing! [16:19:17] Messing up a lot [16:19:44] is Home Directory the same as Root Directory ? [16:20:18] BurningPrincess: Well with self-hosting its much harder to get banned unless you're doing something really shady [16:20:24] BurningPrincess: no [16:20:38] Root directory can mean multiple things depending on context [16:20:38] how do I find the Root Directory ? [16:20:47] It might mean the directory named / [16:20:48] type dir [16:20:54] were? [16:20:55] if you're at command line [16:20:58] cd / [16:21:03] ^ [16:21:03] I am using online stuff [16:21:05] or it might mean the web root [16:21:16] or it might mean the MediaWiki install directory [16:21:19] this comes up: Technical Error: [1] Written file `/home/vol2_3/1free-host.com/frh1_18954437/deleteme.chacvlqc.php' not accessible at `http://tarnani.1free-host.com/deleteme.chacvlqc.php'. [16:21:53] c/lear [16:22:03] do you know any good free servers? [16:22:39] If its the web root, the location can vary. One Common location is /var/www/ [16:23:04] what do I put after that? [16:23:08] check www.ovh.com that is one i used [16:23:23] BurningPrincess: btw if you type [16:23:24] man intro [16:23:36] not free thogh [16:23:38] you will get a short tutorial on how the command line works, which might be useful [16:24:00] interesting [16:24:09] didn't know that command line! [16:24:46] honestly, its not that good a tutorial [16:24:52] but it will mention some basics [16:26:16] i see! [16:32:52] were would I find the account's root directory ? [16:41:58] Changed a ftp port from 22 to 21 and hoping it works [16:42:18] Taking ages to process is that a bad thing? [16:42:30] it's normal [16:42:40] does that mean I have done it right/ [16:42:45] but it's possible that the new port could affected [16:42:56] but yes hopefully [16:43:21] I just did that as i saw it on ftp info [16:43:54] how long does it take to process? [16:44:25] it depoends [16:48:08] ! A test of the selected domain has failed (HTTP error: 200). Installatron is unable to install on a domain that is not resolving/loading to this web account. If this is a new web hosting account, or if this is a newly registered domain, please allow up to 24 hours for the domain to begin working (though usually within a few hours). If you're sure that the domain is correctly loading to your web account, contact your we [16:48:08] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [16:48:23] the below entered File Transfer Path is incorrect. Please verify the entered path is correct. Technical Error: [1] Written file `/root/vol2_3/1free-host.com/frh1_18954437/deleteme.chanilpj.php' not accessible at `http://tarnani.1free-host.com/deleteme.chanilpj.php'. [16:48:25] That is what I got [17:18:18] can you get a list of wiki hosts forme? [17:44:04] Hi i have upgraded my media wiki to 1.19 with access control. For some reason in the newer versions anon is not allowed to view a page. How do i let anon read a page? [17:45:51] for that, you will need the abusefilter so, anon could edit your wiki [17:46:14] I think you're misunderstanding ioudas, allaze-eroler. [17:46:27] ah [17:46:34] ioudas: Anon users can view all pages by default unless you've configured it otherwise. [17:46:40] since english is not my main language XD; [17:46:52] hmm it works in the previous version. just not in 1.19 [17:46:57] and hello meneth [17:46:59] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = true; [17:47:03] You could try setting that, ioudas ^ [17:47:27] That'll let anyone view all pages. [17:47:31] Evening, allaze-eroler. [17:48:28] No dice. [17:49:18] Meneth: yesterday and today, i'm been polishing my infobox template as well leaving the comment how each things work :) [17:49:32] since yesterday* [17:52:04] so far, i created only 2 templates for species and character XD; [18:02:19] Meneth: do you know how to add that kind of stuff like "canon" "headcanon" or "legends"? [18:02:33] How do you mean? [18:02:36] like this one: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Han_Solo [18:03:29] allaze-eroler: You'll probably want some sort of ambox. [18:03:40] i noticed it's made with module [18:03:42] http://www.eu4wiki.com/Template:Ambox [18:03:49] ambox? so that how it's called! [18:03:55] i will check it out [18:04:09] (You'll need to make sure to also include Ambox/Core for it to work) [18:04:18] ohhh exactly what i look out! [18:04:27] ok! [18:05:03] i started creating a warning infobox with affinity designer [18:05:23] haven't yet decided for the layout design XD [18:05:34] but first, i will add these ambox :) [18:06:39] for now, i'm dinning with a giant kebab (holy cow! it fit literally all my plate!) [18:35:30] <|L> can someone help me with vagrant? I need to update composer, but vagrant says there is not a valid composer.json [18:36:16] Yeah looks like even clean installs of mediawiki do that [18:36:21] blah [18:44:36] Meneth: i finished my dinner and i added the ambox you suggested! :) [18:45:01] however, it seem that i got a few broken links... [18:48:36] ah i know why! [18:53:44] grr... still broken link! [18:53:51] oh hello vulpix! [18:54:19] hi [18:54:43] i finished the design of my species infobox :) [18:55:40] ah, good :) [19:04:13] Vulpix: here: http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Species [19:04:28] you can see an example at the end of page [19:10:51] allaze-eroler: looks good [19:10:59] yup [19:11:09] i created the character template too [19:20:29] and like i said yesterday, i really go crazy with the design XD [19:21:47] XD [19:23:17] bla, i don't know why i still have broken link... [19:23:30] http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Ambox [19:23:43] see how broken some images are... [19:36:01] I know how to do clean URLs with mod_rewrite and $wgScriptPath $wgArticlePath... and I've even setup $wgActionPaths to extend the clean url structure to include most 'verbs'...however I'm stuck on how to eliminate the old 'badWiki' directory from any requests while preserving functionality for old bookmarks / search engine results [19:36:42] what I want is to have 'badWiki' replaced by the new virtual $wgArticlePath 'wiki' [19:41:10] anyone know how to fix broken link? [19:41:28] something like line 8 in http://pastebin.com/P7FhdyeT [19:42:52] huh? [20:29:23] it seems that adding RedirectMatch "/oldWiki/index.php/(.*)" "/wiki/$1" will work to preserve old URIs such as oldWiki/index.php/Special:Version but it won't do api requests obviously, so I'll need to add another rule for that [20:31:02] are you there Meneth ? [20:59:08] some images files failed to get uploaded :/ [21:04:07] If I have an extension that has another extension as a dependency, how do I adjust the CI tests to include that other extension? [21:13:46] hare: let me find it, i did that recently somewhere [21:14:52] hare: like this: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/306011 [21:15:18] or you could probably file a task ;) [21:16:55] what projects? [21:24:54] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/313122/ :-) [21:25:12] is there a solution for these broken images? [21:25:34] like here for example: http://www.allaze-eroler.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Ambox [21:57:47] I'm trying to setup the NSFileRepo extension - It seems like it's working, and images are restricted to namespaces, but I can only view the thumbnails, not the original images. Is this expected behavior? [22:44:10] Elven, is it linking to thumb.php or the original filename? [22:49:58] Oh hey, ddos is over. [22:50:15] oh [22:50:26] that was a DDOSS attack? [22:50:49] that explain why i see alot of people coming and leaving... [22:51:47] General question: How do you enable the custom javascript parts of the user preferences so people can import javascripts using skin/common/monobook/etc.js? [22:52:21] I've been hunting around on mediawiki.org, but I can't seem to find that information. [22:52:28] i have no idea ^^; [22:52:46] i was wondering how to enable that gadgets system [22:54:29] Anyone else? [22:55:10] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowUserJs [22:55:38] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/JavaScript#Personal_scripts [22:56:32] interesting [22:56:50] oh and anyone know how to correctly install visual editor? [22:56:55] For reference, I googled 'mediawiki user javascript'. :^) [22:57:01] because i still get the error 7 [22:57:08] oh XD [22:59:18] CZauX: Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. I wasn't sure what to call it. :) [23:02:06] np [23:02:26] No idea on the visual editor setup. If anyone finds a good guide, though, I'd love to see it [23:02:55] Though you should probably research whether you really need it, node.js for it takes up a considerable amount of memory [23:03:07] even when its not doing anything [23:04:22] indeed [23:04:44] no mention that it ask to access to the core of webserver which it's dangerous [23:05:11] like: modify the php engine [23:05:36] that visual editor seriously need to be fixed [23:05:50] and make install painless like the other extension pffff [23:06:07] i'm not surprised it's still in alpha version [23:08:07] ah! the new version mediawiki 1.28 will be done for november apparently! [23:12:47] I was able to fix my problem with img_auth not loading the original image. Turning on additional debugging showed it couldn't find the image, even thought it existed, and permissions were in place. I fixed with the following patch http://pastebin.ca/raw/3722971 [23:17:28] Is there someone I could email to see if a similar change can be made upstream? [23:27:39] I've just upgraded to MW 1.27. I'm getting stuck in a redirect loop. Some reason from what I debug out, it wants to redirect me to the same url. Debugging the code $targetUrl in MediaWIki.php is set to my pretty url, while $request->getFullRequestURL() has the actual url with the php script. I have $wgUsePathInfo enabled in my LocalSettings. Thoughts? [23:38:34] time for me to go SleePy now... no pun intented XD; [23:40:22] bye!