[02:36:12] hi, is it possible to make a negative search in mw? so to find all pages that don't have some string? [02:51:12] auvajs: depends on the search engine. it's possible on Wikimedia wikis: just prefix the term with - [02:51:14] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:CirrusSearch [02:51:34] it's kind of hidden in that doc page: "Truth-logic understands - or ! prefixed to a term to invert the usual meaning of the term from "match" to "exclude"." [04:07:17] Anyone around? [04:08:24] Used to be able to see the ‘resources used’ to render a page, when editing it… the functionality seems to have disappeared, and the ‘report’ at the bottom of the page does not get added to File namespace pages… [04:28:34] Revent: You mean templates transcluded? [04:28:57] transclusions depth, and rendering time, specifically [04:29:10] (and the ones I was interested in) [04:29:13] *are [04:30:22] Umm.. the ‘page parse report’ calles it ‘expansiondepth’, same thing [04:32:34] Debra: You know Template:Artwork on Commons? Specifically, I’m interested in just how much benefit there is from specifically linking an ‘Institution’ template, instead of relying on the code in the template that ‘guesses’ [04:34:34] That would depend how the template is implemented [04:34:56] the best way to find out would be to experiment [04:35:25] Yeah, but it doesn’t give me the numbers that would show the difference. :P [04:35:51] {{#ifeq:"{{Str left|{{{Institution|{{{institution|{{{Gallery|{{{gallery|{{{Museum|{{{museum|}}} }}} }}} }}} }}} }}}|1}}"|"<" [04:35:52] |{{{Institution|{{{institution|{{{Gallery|{{{gallery|{{{Museum|{{{museum|}}} }}} }}} }}} }}} }}} [04:35:53] |{{#ifexist: Institution:{{{Institution|{{{institution|{{{Gallery|{{{gallery|{{{Museum|{{{museum|}}} }}} }}} }}} }}} }}} [04:35:55] |{{Institution:{{{Institution|{{{institution|{{{Gallery|{{{gallery|{{{Museum|{{{museum|}}} }}} }}} }}} }}} }}} }} [04:35:56] |{{{Institution|{{{institution|{{{Gallery|{{{gallery|{{{Museum|{{{museum|}}} }}} }}} }}} }}} }}} [04:35:56] }} [04:35:57] is the code... [04:36:21] Which is rather unreadable, tbh. [04:38:35] I have noticed that there is a ‘benefit’ in that the server seems to update pages faster when the Institution page is specifically transcluded, when it’s edited…. much sooner. [08:16:11] hi have a problem with a commit i submited yesterday. after the gate pipeline failed in the first place (due to a temporary proble with an external web service) after running recheck jenkins verified it again but did not start the submit https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/314919/ [08:16:54] submitting manually caused problems in the past so I don't want to hit the submit button manually [08:26:29] -> #wikimedia-releng [11:19:01] how can I cite the wiki page using endnote? [11:19:21] conveniently [15:38:32] Is there a spesfic design pattern that is used in mediawiki ? [15:38:47] Hi GhassanMas. [15:38:48] Not really. [15:39:29] GhassanMas no there isnt [15:39:45] any way Debra, Zppix... how would advise studying mediawiki Debra? [15:40:09] beside looking through the code (: [15:40:31] GhassanMas: What are you trying to do/learn? [15:41:16] the core concept of mediawiki [15:41:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker#Appendix ? [15:42:13] Nice link. [15:42:15] Sounds like you want https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture [15:42:22] Yeah, or http://www.aosabook.org/en/mediawiki.html [15:42:28] Nemo_bis just clicked it ! [15:42:48] I am browsing it Debra [15:42:51] thanks guys [15:43:16] Cool. [18:42:57] hello everyone, I have an up-and-running site. I thought about adding a wiki to it to provide in-depth details. can I straightly add mediawiki to it? [18:43:22] kernello: you can install mediawiki in a subdirectory, for example in /w [18:43:45] if you have PHP and some database running [18:44:53] saper, great to hear that! would it really work right on? I remember having tried to install an url shortener to a subdirectory, and it didn't work unless it were in the main directory [18:45:21] I'd actually discourage putting it in the / [18:45:40] saper, sure, I wouldn't want anything to happen to the site :) [18:46:14] check [18:46:15] just trying to place it in the subdirectory and see what happens seem to be a safe bet [18:46:19] http://shorturls.redwerks.org/ [18:46:34] !shorturl | kernello [18:46:34] kernello: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at or try the new beta tool at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [18:47:02] oh, is this new? an url shortener of mediawiki? [18:50:39] No [18:50:50] are new versions of extensions going to be backported to LTS for REL1.27 or installing new versions from master should be considered? [18:51:50] by backported I mean made available with download with option REL1.27 [18:52:07] in estensiondistributor [18:53:56] but how can i install it on an existing website? I found an installation for different distros, but couldnt find one for a website [18:55:14] 1.27 is in extension distributor [19:05:14] ok whatever [20:15:32] Is Extension:PageAssessments going to work with non-english wiki? [20:16:11] Why wouldn't it? [20:16:36] if it gets translations and someones moves it over to the other wikis i cant see why not? [20:17:18] ok [20:53:59] is there a steward channel? [20:57:27] Andyrom75: #wikimedia-stewards