[01:39:14] <tgr>	 MTres19: User::checkPassword will throw if any authentication extension is installed that requires user interaction
[01:39:24] <tgr>	 such as ConfirmEdit, or OATHAuth
[01:39:43] <tgr>	 and it will probably be removed in 1.29
[01:40:57] <tgr>	 of course it doesn't really make sense to use HTTP Basic together with those extensions anyway
[01:42:31] <MTres19>	 tgr: Okay: I'm not using it; instead I simply using AuthManaged directly with loadRequestsFromSubmission(). If it gets anything other than pass or fail with username/password auth it will echo a generic error message.
[01:43:13] <MTres19>	 Not the best, of course, to perform the action the user has to be sysop by default anyway.
[01:43:32] <MTres19>	 So the user would be likely to have a standard wiki account.
[01:44:02] <tgr>	 yeah, same thing applies: a lot of auth extensions will break it, although they probably would not be useful on a wiki with HTTP auth anyway
[01:44:04] <SpanishWikinews>	 MTres19 please leave or kill, thanks
[01:44:15] <SpanishWikinews>	 MIERDA
[01:45:37] <tgr>	 an alternative approach would be to store passwords in the webserver and set REMOTE_USER and read it with Extension:RemoteAuth or something similar
[01:47:20] <MTres19>	 tgr: The idea is not to log into the wiki from the web with basic auth, but to be able to access the content of the wiki with git. https://github.com/MTres19/mw-extension-git
[01:48:46] <MTres19>	 So storing passwords in .htaccess or the like isn't really practical.
[01:52:20] <MTres19>	 Platonides: Thanks, by the way.
[01:52:48] <tgr>	 if you don't want to depend on the web server for authentication, you could also create a SessionProvider which checks the HTTP request credentials against the user table
[01:53:06] <tgr>	 but yeah, what you describe should work
[01:59:33] <MTres19>	 tgr: So as long as no one with an oAuth/whatever-linked account tries to use basic auth with my extension, things should work?
[02:00:46] <MTres19>	 I don't care whether my extension works for oAuth users, as long as having oAuth enabled doesn't prevent standard users from using my extension.
[02:11:57] <tgr>	 MTres19: yeah, the only case in which it will fail is if some extension adds another required fields to the login form (e.g. captcha or two-factor login)
[02:14:08] <MTres19>	 tgr: Okay, and thanks for your help!
[02:26:39] <Ezarate>	 !flames
[02:31:13] <Ezarate>	 !flames
[02:31:16] <Ezarate>	 AlvaroMolina IT'S TRUSH AND LOVES ALEX Z AND UAWIKI IN #WIKIPEDIA-ES
[02:31:18] <Ezarate>	 MIERDA
[02:47:45] <Ezarate>	 MIERDA 
[05:43:36] <Ezarate>	 MIERDA
[05:43:40] <Ezarate>	 AlvaroMolina IT'S TRUSH AND LOVES ALEX Z AND UAWIKI IN #WIKIPEDIA-ESAlvaroMolina IT'S TRUSH AND LOVES ALEX Z AND UAWIKI IN #WIKIPEDIA-ESAlvaroMolina IT'S TRUSH AND LOVES ALEX Z AND UAWIKI IN #WIKIPEDIA-ES
[06:22:18] <Ezarate>	 MIERDA
[06:29:25] <Ezarate>	 MIERDA
[06:40:56] <ctmarco>	 Hello all i ahve question
[06:41:06] <ctmarco>	 Run the update script which will automatically create the necessary database tables that this extension needs.
[06:41:10] <ctmarco>	 How to run it?
[06:48:16] <ctmarco>	 Hello i downloadedOAuth extension
[06:48:21] <ctmarco>	 I need help how to install it
[06:48:35] <ctmarco>	 I have no previous expierence with mediawiki framework
[07:01:07] <tgr>	 ctmarco: see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Update.php
[07:03:01] <ctmarco>	 I cant
[07:03:05] <ctmarco>	 it show file not found
[07:03:20] <ctmarco>	 php update.php
[07:03:25] <ctmarco>	 It show file not found
[07:03:36] <ctmarco>	 Could not open input file: update.php
[07:43:48] <Ezarate>	 MIERDA
[08:52:42] <ctmarco>	 Where is routes in mediawiki?
[08:52:50] <ctmarco>	 Where i can add my own page route
[08:52:53] <ctmarco>	 I need router
[08:52:59] <ctmarco>	 Where i can access it?
[08:54:31] <andre__>	 ctmarco: what is a "page route"?
[08:54:40] <ctmarco>	 Router
[08:54:48] <andre__>	 ctmarco: what is a "router" in a software context?
[08:55:02] <ctmarco>	 For example it makes names of pages
[08:55:07] <ctmarco>	 myweb/page1
[08:55:09] <ctmarco>	 myweb/page2
[08:55:14] <ctmarco>	 myweb/other_page
[08:55:41] <andre__>	 I don't understand. *I* make names of pages when *I* decide under which name I save a file.
[08:57:56] <ctmarco>	 Where i logo placed
[08:57:59] <ctmarco>	 How i can edit logo 
[08:58:08] <ctmarco>	 For example i need make logo as link
[08:59:30] <andre__>	 "root" maybe?
[09:00:02] <andre__>	 ctmarco, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_logo.3F
[09:00:33] <andre__>	 The logo *is* already a link. As far as I know.
[09:32:36] <ctmarco>	 How to $router->add() in mediawiki ?
[09:34:21] <andre__>	 ctmarco: what is "$router->add()" supposed to do?
[09:34:29] <andre__>	 It makes more sense to explain what you want to achieve.
[09:34:41] <andre__>	 Instead of asking about what you think is a solution. Which might not be a solution.
[09:35:24] <ctmarco>	 For example adds url
[09:35:32] <ctmarco>	 when i write specific url i get page
[09:35:55] <ctmarco>	 For example in frameworks i can route actions
[09:36:01] <ctmarco>	 How i can do it in mediawiki?
[09:42:43] <andre__>	 ctmarco, you need to  explain way more and clearer what you want to do.
[09:42:56] <andre__>	 where do you write some specific url?
[09:43:01] <andre__>	 are you editing a wiki page in a browser?
[09:43:04] <andre__>	 do you try to write some code?
[09:43:28] <andre__>	 and especially, *why* you want to write or add some url. in which situation. what underlying problem you want to solve.
[09:45:03] <ctmarco>	 I need to access framework of Mediawiki
[09:45:09] <ctmarco>	 But i cant understand it where to start
[09:47:33] <andre__>	 ctmarco: okay. you need to access the MediaWiki framework for what, and why?
[09:47:57] <andre__>	 which underlying problem would you like to solve by accessing the MediaWIki framework?
[09:48:03] <ctmarco>	 I need add extension AuthO
[09:48:09] <ctmarco>	 But i dont know how to do that
[09:48:12] <andre__>	 ctmarco, no, that's not an answer.
[09:48:21] <andre__>	 which *problem* would you like to solve?
[09:48:40] <andre__>	 "I need to add the OAuth extension" is a potential solution, but not a description of a problem.
[09:48:51] <andre__>	 I'd like to know the problem.
[09:48:56] <ctmarco>	 Auth
[09:49:09] <andre__>	 What would you like to do?
[09:49:10] <ctmarco>	 How i can add AuthO extension
[09:49:16] <andre__>	 There is only OAuth.
[09:49:21] <ctmarco>	 I need authentication allowed but page
[09:49:32] <ctmarco>	 How i can add it to my mediawiki?
[09:49:38] <andre__>	 ctmarco, by installing it.
[09:49:39] <andre__>	 See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OAuth
[09:49:44] <ctmarco>	 I installed
[09:49:47] <andre__>	 There is an "Installation" section.
[09:49:47] <ctmarco>	 It wont work\
[09:49:58] <ctmarco>	 Run the update script which will automatically create the necessary database tables that this extension needs.
[09:50:04] <ctmarco>	 I dont have any update script
[09:50:06] <andre__>	 If it does not work, explain what you did, what is shown, and what you expect.
[09:50:28] <andre__>	 ctmarco, where exactly did you look for the update script?
[09:50:36] <ctmarco>	 In wiki directory
[09:50:39] <ctmarco>	 Where it is?
[09:50:46] <andre__>	 ctmarco, what does "in wiki directory" mean?
[09:50:52] <andre__>	 Did you check /maintenance/update.php ?
[09:50:57] <ctmarco>	 root directory of wiki project
[09:51:02] <ctmarco>	 no
[09:51:05] <andre__>	 ctmarco, why not?
[09:51:14] <ctmarco>	 How i can php update.php it
[09:51:38] <andre__>	 ctmarco, did you find the script?
[09:52:00] <andre__>	 "Run the update script" on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OAuth#Installation links to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Update.php . https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Update.php shows the file name and the "Location" at the top.
[09:52:09] <andre__>	 so its location is /maintenance/update.php
[09:52:27] <andre__>	 ctmarco: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Update.php explains how to run update.php
[09:54:33] <ctmarco>	 I runed
[09:54:37] <ctmarco>	 What need do next
[09:54:43] <ctmarco>	 And how i can check if it works
[09:56:11] <andre__>	 ctmarco, what to do next is written on the documentation page. Did you read it? :)
[09:56:16] <andre__>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OAuth#Installation
[09:56:49] <ctmarco>	 Configure the user rights by putting them into the relevant groups in $wgGroupPermissions. 
[09:56:53] <ctmarco>	 Where in which file ?
[09:57:54] <andre__>	 ctmarco, errrm, no, before that there is "Configure the general parameters as required."
[09:58:37] <andre__>	 settings are in LocalSettings.php
[10:14:10] <ctmarco>	 $wgMWOAuthCentralWiki no this variable in localconfig
[10:14:22] <ctmarco>	 There not variable with this name
[10:18:56] <ctmarco>	 i need simple tutorial where i can make mediawiki extension
[10:19:19] <andre__>	 ctmarco: of course there is no variable with that name.
[10:19:33] <andre__>	 you are in the configuration of the MediaWiki core software.
[10:19:38] <andre__>	 There are thousands of extensions.
[10:19:59] <andre__>	 It makes no sense to put the variable of each and every extension out there in a totally bloated huge LocalSettings.php file by default.
[10:20:12] <andre__>	 ctmarco: Have you thought about adding that variable yourself to the configuration?
[10:20:19] <andre__>	 Because that is what you are expected to do.
[10:21:04] <andre__>	 ctmarco: No, you do NOT need a simple tutorial where you can make mediawiki extension. Except for when you want to re-invent the wheel.
[10:28:15] <ctmarco>	 How i can try extension is it working or not
[10:28:20] <ctmarco>	 i cant experimate
[10:57:50] <andre__>	 ctmarco: by installing it by following the installation guide?
[10:58:20] <andre__>	 ...and if you have *specific* questions: by asking them.
[13:41:37] <ssmith>	 hey, anyone familiar with the LDAPAuthentication part in mediawiki?  Im upgrading from 1.12.0 to 1.27.1-1 and am running into conf problems
[13:48:22] <Debra>	 Hi ssmith.
[13:48:30] <Debra>	 It's just a single PHP file, I believe.
[13:48:33] <ssmith>	 hi
[13:48:41] <Debra>	 It's usually easiest to figure out which error you're getting and follow the code path.
[13:48:45] <Debra>	 To see what's causing it.
[13:59:32] <ssmith>	 thanks Debra.  I guess i'll have to switch error_reporting on also...
[14:12:33] <Debra>	 Maybe. Depends what kind of error you're getting.
[14:12:45] <Debra>	 ssmith: If you tail your Web server error logs, you may see helpful info in there.
[14:13:02] <Debra>	 ssmith: Usually the error I've encountered is that the LDAP extension has a special database table.
[14:13:10] <Debra>	 So make sure you run maintenance/update.php after installing the extension.
[14:13:19] <Debra>	 That should trigger the creation of the database table, I believe.
[14:13:32] <Debra>	 Or you can manually create the table.
[14:54:33] <Sophivorus>	 andre__: Hi Aklapper, are you on ?
[14:56:06] <andre__>	 Sophivorus: likely
[14:56:11] <andre__>	 on and off. as usual :)
[14:56:19] <Sophivorus>	 heh ok, hi
[14:56:36] <Sophivorus>	 i wanted to ask you if you could take a look at my request at the bottom of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706
[14:57:00] <Sophivorus>	 im in a bit of a hurry because i want to migrate some issues from github to gerrit before the 16th
[14:57:16] <Sophivorus>	 due to my mid-term report deadline
[14:57:59] <Sophivorus>	 sorry, from github to phabricator i meant*
[15:03:05] <andre__>	 Sophivorus: Frankly, the "code of the thousand gadgets" sentence made me scared
[15:03:16] <andre__>	 Sophivorus, basically https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85433
[15:03:40] <andre__>	 if you have specific gadgets, and if you make it clear in various places that the single place to track software issues is in Phabricator, I'd be fine with that.
[15:03:59] <andre__>	 However, I don't want Phabricator to be the 10th place to report gadget bugs, when 9 places were available beforehand already.
[15:04:09] <andre__>	 So that's where I come from and why I'm a bit... "reluctant".
[15:04:26] <andre__>	 Sophivorus, basically: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85433#1196089
[15:04:56] <andre__>	 so my position is in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85433#1373799 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85433#1549981
[15:07:50] <Sophivorus>	 andre__: hm, interesting points, i need to think about them
[15:09:09] <andre__>	 Sophivorus: as you wrote "centralizing the code of the thousand gadgets", I'd love to see you add your thoughts to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121470
[15:09:22] <andre__>	 (or concepts. or links. or whatever comes to your mind. :) )
[15:10:38] <Debra>	 Heh, rabbit hole.
[15:11:10] <Debra>	 "I want to have my issues tracked in Phabricator instead of GitHub" becomes "implement shadow namespaces for all the things." :P
[15:15:31] <andre__>	 I would love to see this solved. But it's complex as hell. We all know. :)
[15:21:46] <Debra>	 I bumped https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91162 a bit.
[15:33:58] <Sophivorus>	 andre__: Added my two cents to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121470
[15:34:24] <icw>	 I'm running into a weird bug with the InputBox extension on v.0.2.0 running Mediawiki v.1.24.2. I am planning on using the box to streamline the creation of personal pages. The Parameters include type=create, preload=Template:People, buttonlable=Create Personal Page, placeholder=Enter Your Name. I'm working in the Sandbox, but when I save my changes it saves everything to Main_Page, instead of Sandbox. Any 
[15:34:30] <icw>	 idea why this would be happening?
[15:35:21] <Sophivorus>	 how is the Sandbox page called?
[15:37:19] <icw>	 It's simply titled Sandbox and I'm making a basic edit adding the <inputbox> tags with the parameters inside and nothing else. 
[15:38:31] <icw>	 The same exact process with InputBox v0.3.0 on MediaWiki v1.27.1 works perfectly
[15:38:55] <Sophivorus>	 icw: check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Rl08zsw15u3qqw3b
[15:42:50] <icw>	 That appears to be the issue, albeit an unfortunate one as the preview tabs are appreciated by our editors. Thanks for the help!
[15:47:38] <Sophivorus>	 andre__: I've read your comments and related ones, and given it some thought, and i'd like to talk with you a bit here, because i think that my request may still be a good idea
[15:48:06] <andre__>	 Sophivorus: Probably, and if there's a bit of concept I'm definitely happy to see projects created for this.
[15:48:21] <andre__>	 Wondering if creating a task under #Project-Admins for your idea might make sense
[15:48:29] <Sophivorus>	 basically, i want to migrate the tasks of the proveit gadget to phabricator because the gadget is just starting to spread to other wikis
[15:48:52] <Sophivorus>	 so before it fragments, i want to keep it centralized
[15:48:57] <Krenair>	 do you maintain the gadget?
[15:49:05] <Sophivorus>	 yes, and i currently have a grant to do so
[15:49:11] <Krenair>	 +1 from me then
[15:49:21] <Sophivorus>	 (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Enhance_the_ProveIt_gadget)
[15:49:55] <Sophivorus>	 plus, the code has already been migrated from github to gerrit, so having the code there and the issues at github is confusing
[15:50:22] <Sophivorus>	 similarly with the other project for which im requesting phabricator projects (WikiWidgets)
[15:50:55] <Krenair>	 hm, ProvIt
[15:50:57] <Krenair>	 ProveIt*
[15:51:11] <Sophivorus>	 i commit to migrate all the issues of the proveit gadget from github to phabricator and direct all feedback there
[15:51:16] <Krenair>	 I think that might be the gadget I helped make work on trwiki years ago
[15:51:58] <Sophivorus>	 heh, it's giving giant strides now, TemplateData integration, internationalization, and soon connected with Wikidata i hope
[15:52:02] <Krenair>	 nice
[15:52:10] <andre__>	 Sophivorus: so that would be a project called #ProveIt-Gadget ?
[15:52:30] <Sophivorus>	 sure, that sounds good
[15:56:29] <Sophivorus>	 Krenair: i'm trying to localize and spread the gadget to as many wikis as possible, would you mind helping me out with trwiki when the time comes ?
[15:56:45] <andre__>	 Sophivorus: Alright, I've added you to #acl*Project-Admins. You know that this needs some more general thoughts (plus making sure that people bring up their issues in Phabricator) and you have reasonable arguments, so let's try. :)
[15:56:55] <Krenair>	 I'm a global interface editor these days, my trwiki flag is redundant
[15:57:16] <Sophivorus>	 me too, but i don't know any turkish
[15:57:17] <Sophivorus>	 do you ?
[15:57:20] <Krenair>	 Nope
[15:57:37] <Krenair>	 sorry
[15:57:42] <Sophivorus>	 hah ok, then i wont bother, you, i'll ask the turkish community, thanks !
[15:57:55] <Krenair>	 The local admin I did it for was called Vito
[15:58:15] <Sophivorus>	 andre__: thanks! i'll start with the proveit gadget and familiarize myself a bit more with the current phabricator policies before i create more projects
[15:58:46] <Sophivorus>	 Krenair: ah, thanks, that will be helpful :-)
[15:58:52] <Krenair>	 https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96zel:Katk%C4%B1lar/Vito_Genovese
[15:59:23] <Krenair>	 this was just over 4 years ago
[15:59:44] <Krenair>	 good luck
[15:59:45] <Sophivorus>	 well he still looks active
[15:59:47] <Sophivorus>	 thx
[17:29:42] <Tims_Tech>	 hi
[17:29:44] <Tims_Tech>	 :P
[18:28:04] <webdawg>	 Anyone help me with __DIR__ in an extension.  For some reason it is returning the full path on the server.../home/user/bla/bla/bla in the php output/source of the page.
[18:28:07] <webdawg>	 php 5.6.
[18:28:28] <Reedy>	 what's the code?
[18:32:28] <webdawg>	 http://pastebin.com/myGfT3tz
[18:32:36] <webdawg>	 It is the extension MsUpload....
[18:33:56] <webdawg>	 It outputs {"scriptPath":"","flash_swf_url":"/home/user/rootdir/extensions/MsUpload/plupload/Moxie.swf","silverlight_xap_url":"/home/user/rootdir/extensions/MsUpload/plupload/Moxie.xap"
[18:33:56] <Tims_Tech>	 I use this code in my localsettings.php thing: $wgDBtype           = "mysql";
[18:33:57] <Tims_Tech>	 $wgDBname           = "wiki";
[18:33:57] <Tims_Tech>	 $wgDBuser           = "wikiDbUser";
[18:33:57] <Tims_Tech>	 $wgDBpassword       = "wikiDbUser"; and it gives me a error: http://146.185.183.34/mediawiki/
[19:56:16] <webdawg>	 damit
[20:03:10] <MTres19>	 Is there a magic word in wikitext to get the protocol of the website? (e.g. http or https)
[20:05:40] <MTres19>	 Nevermind, the fullurl parser function takes care of what I need.
[20:22:16] <nerfie>	 are there any mediawiki developers on here, if so i just wanted to ask if ImportScript() was removed from mediawiki 1.27? i'm getting a reference error of it not being defined.
[20:23:46] <Dereckson>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Qgo3q6e0hvae1dpj asked a question about deprecation
[20:24:13] <Dereckson>	 You could be interested by https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Legacy_JavaScript#wikibits.js
[20:24:37] <Dereckson>	 ctrl + f > importScript, you'll get the new mw.loader.load syntax to use
[20:24:46] <nerfie>	 well the thing is it was working for mw 1.26.2
[20:25:10] <nerfie>	 that said, where is the resourceloader even located?
[20:25:21] <Dereckson>	 Funny the last commit is     wikibits: Un-deprecate importScript and importStylesheet
[20:25:30] <Dereckson>	     Per discussion on T95964. No suitable replacement exists yet.
[20:25:30] <Dereckson>	     importScriptURI and importStylesheetURI stay deprecated, having been
[20:25:31] <Dereckson>	     superseded by mw.loader.load.
[20:25:31] <stashbot>	 T95964: Deprecation status of importScript, importStylesheet, importScriptURI, importStylesheetURI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95964
[20:25:31] <Reedy>	 doesn't matter if it worked in a prevous version ;)
[20:25:40] <Reedy>	 .26 -> .27 is a major bump
[20:26:14] <nerfie>	 ok so where is mw.loader.load located?
[20:26:29] <Dereckson>	 oh the undeprecate was .25, ignore that
[20:26:38] <nerfie>	 mw.loader.load( '/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' );
[20:26:46] <nerfie>	 where would i be adding the above as an example?
[20:27:04] <Dereckson>	 at the same places you added importScript
[20:27:16] <nerfie>	 so mediawiki:common.js?
[20:27:18] <Dereckson>	 user JS, global JS, other extension JS code, etc.
[20:27:19] <Dereckson>	 yes
[20:27:39] <nerfie>	 thanks, that should be added to docs
[20:27:49] <Dereckson>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/JavaScript_Deprecations#wikibits.js is the doc for that
[20:28:44] <nerfie>	 yeah, i saw that and got the above example from. wasn't sure where that was dropped in. i'll test it now
[20:41:43] <nerfie>	 Dereckson, does mw.loader.load not work for scripts rather only for gadgets?
[20:43:48] <Dereckson>	 merfie: you could like  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader#.40embed
[20:44:00] <Dereckson>	 (without the final anchor, I refered to the page in general)
[20:44:47] <Dereckson>	 So yes, the gadgets use resource loader, but it's also available elsewhere.
[20:45:07] <Dereckson>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader#Client-side_.28dynamically.29 explains where to declare dependencies:
[20:45:37] <Dereckson>	 - in MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition for gadgets
[20:45:46] <Dereckson>	 - with mw.loader.using for userscripts
[20:46:23] <Dereckson>	   (or mw.loader.load)
[20:52:23] <nerfie>	 must be due to php and MySQL not being updated, another wiki where i got a few of my scripts have their's still working