[03:26:37] <udjekd>	 !btinfo #mediawiki
[03:27:05] <udjekd>	 !btinfo #wikimedia-ops
[03:28:20] <JD|cloud>	 no need for opmoderated here
[03:58:17] <Debra>	 Huh, I forgot again that JD|cloud isn't J.delanoy.
[04:25:52] <djdjjddjd>	 &$&$ JOIN #wikimedia-ayuda &$&$
[06:40:26] <JHK>	 Could anyone help, I'd like to know how to include <noinclude> and </noinclude> from template
[06:43:02] <JHK>	 I want <noinclude> and </noinclude> to be part of transclude content, is it possible?
[08:46:59] <Guest40669>	 hello
[08:47:41] <Guest40669>	 what is the use of this channel 
[08:49:51] <Guest40669>	 how many members are joined this channel
[09:41:47] <nycloud>	 JHK: try {{#tag:noinclude|content}}
[11:17:44] <jean__>	 Hi everyone, I'm configuring my first instance of MediaWiki, and I want the URLs to look like this: http://example.org/wiki/Page_title
[11:18:09] <jean__>	 I'm using nginx
[11:18:26] <jean__>	 I've tried following the 2 articles on mediawiki.org regarding nginx (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Nginx) (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Nginx)
[11:18:47] <jean__>	 But it seems to still be redirecting me to /index.php?title=Page_title
[11:19:22] <jean__>	 Can anybody link to me to an online resource that explain how I can achieve http://example.org/wiki/Page_title for MediaWiki with nginx?
[11:19:28] <jean__>	 Or at least give me some hints
[11:35:41] <nyuszika7h>	 jean__: I'm using this on my wiki http://ptpb.pw/tSLe/nginz
[11:35:43] <nyuszika7h>	 jean__: I'm using this on my wiki http://ptpb.pw/tSLe/nginx
[11:38:18] <jean__>	 nyuszika7h: Thank for the link
[11:38:28] <jean__>	 nyuszika7h: What about your LocalSettings.php? Have any modifications there to support this?
[11:41:23] <jean__>	 nyuszika7h: With that nginx configuration, it seems you have your website in a /w directory, relative to your nginx root, correct?
[11:43:23] <jean__>	 Alright, I have short URLs now
[11:43:29] <jean__>	 But now I'm having an issue where it's loading /wiki/load.php to get my css, and since that's rewriting to /index.php, the css of my wiki is not loading
[12:24:26] <nyuszika7h>	 oops forgot the LocalSettings part
[12:24:30] <nyuszika7h>	 well he's gone no
[12:24:32] <nyuszika7h>	 w
[14:05:34] <huji>	 Hi. How can I load a JS from my own machine? I tried adding    mw.loader.load( 'file:///D:/afd.js' );     to my common.js but it is not loading the script
[14:07:19] <Reedy>	 huji: You can't
[14:07:28] <Reedy>	 Well, not unless you turn it into a resouce loader module that references the file
[14:07:38] <huji>	 Hmm
[14:07:44] <huji>	 What are my alternatives then?
[14:07:47] <huji>	 importScript ?
[14:08:08] <huji>	 Basically, I want to work on a module, but I don't want to edit it on wiki 
[14:08:13] <huji>	 is there a way to do that?
[14:08:14] <Reedy>	 ResourceLoader
[14:08:33] <Reedy>	 ResourceLoaderFileModule
[14:08:38] <Reedy>	 "ResourceLoader module based on local JavaScript/CSS files."
[14:09:08] <huji>	 hmm
[14:09:14] <huji>	 do you have an example in mind?
[14:11:26] <Reedy>	 What's wrong with just registering a normal resourceloader module?
[14:11:29] <Reedy>	 That's all you need to do
[14:12:03] <Reedy>	 and add it to a page
[14:12:04] <Reedy>	 	"ResourceModules": {
[14:12:05] <Reedy>	 		"ext.securepoll.htmlform": {
[14:12:05] <Reedy>	 			"scripts": "ext.securepoll.htmlform.js"
[14:12:05] <Reedy>	 		},
[14:12:05] <Reedy>	 		"ext.securepoll": {
[14:12:07] <Reedy>	 			"styles": "ext.securepoll.css"
[14:12:09] <Reedy>	 		}
[14:12:11] <Reedy>	 	},
[14:12:20] <Reedy>	 just gotta be in the right path
[14:12:40] <huji>	 the question is, if I put it in a local file (/home/huji/blah.js) how do I load it?
[14:12:43] <huji>	 using importScript?
[14:12:50] <Reedy>	 I don't think you can
[14:12:57] <Reedy>	 Just do it properly... It's easier :P
[14:13:10] <huji>	 well then is there anyway for me to load local files at all?
[14:13:22] <huji>	 in the old days (before RL) importScript would allow you to do that
[14:13:32] <Reedy>	 I honestly don't know :)
[14:13:43] <Reedy>	 You'd need to ask one of the JSy people
[14:13:58] <huji>	 anomie: would that be you?
[14:14:06] <huji>	 thanks anyway Reedy
[14:16:37] <anomie>	 huji: I'm not all that JSy. But I wouldn't be surprised if browsers refuse to load file:/// URIs for non-file:/// pages for security reasons. Try an extension like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasemonkey?
[14:17:03] <huji>	 anomie: good point
[14:17:14] <Reedy>	 I'm not sure why a RL wouldn't work.... Load it properly, always enable debug mode
[17:42:28] <malaverdiere>	 I have a quick question for (old) developers - about the access control implementation <= 1.5.0
[17:44:39] <legoktm>	 uh, 1.5.0 is pretty ancient...
[18:02:45] <Lucas_>	 Hey guys, this message keeps showing on top of my page, can any one tell me what it is? "Warning: wincache_ucache_cas() expects parameter 2 to be integer, string given in D:\web\localuser\syslife\www\wiki\includes\libs\objectcache\WinCacheBagOStuff.php on line 58"
[18:40:16] <malaverdiere>	 legoktm: indeed - I'm doing an evolution study. It looks like that the RBAC configuration is hardcoded in includes/User.php. Am I seeing that right?
[18:40:43] <legoktm>	 RBAC?
[18:40:49] <legoktm>	 well let me find a copy of 1.5.0...
[18:40:51] <malaverdiere>	 role-based access control
[18:41:11] <malaverdiere>	 legoktm: git checkout 1.5.0 :)
[18:41:24] <malaverdiere>	 actually, pre-1.5
[18:41:50] <malaverdiere>	 git checkout 1.4.3
[18:43:13] <legoktm>	 okay yes, user groups and permissions were and still are in User.php
[18:43:48] <legoktm>	 well, no longer hardcoded like that
[18:43:52] <legoktm>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/REL1_4/includes/User.php#L797
[18:44:54] <malaverdiere>	 legoktm: was that done always like that < 1.5 ?
[18:45:13] <malaverdiere>	 or it changed a lot version to version/
[18:45:15] <malaverdiere>	 ?
[18:46:28] <legoktm>	 not exactly
[18:46:56] <legoktm>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/d82c14fb4fbac288b42ca5918b0a72f33ecb1e69/includes/User.php is Lee's first revision
[18:47:13] <legoktm>	 it looks like it was all group based
[18:47:21] <legoktm>	 User::isSysop() and User::isDeveloper()
[18:48:11] <legoktm>	 then at some point it switched to a distinction between groups and rights - groups have certain rights, and the code checks for those rights, rather than group membership
[18:48:13] <malaverdiere>	 I was about to say the same thing - looks like the checks were done using those isXYZ() calls
[18:49:36] <malaverdiere>	 any idea when rights were introduced?
[18:51:45] <legoktm>	 lets see
[18:51:47] <Nemo_bis>	 evolution study, wonderful; malaverdiere, make sure to advertise it on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:MediaWiki_architecture when ready
[18:57:02] <legoktm>	 malaverdiere: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/6066
[18:58:12] <legoktm>	 I think it definitely changed since then, but that appears to be the initial implementation
[18:58:48] <legoktm>	 (sha1 is 28ea816fbafe96825d3c35187a12cadafca6905f)
[19:05:04] <malaverdiere>	 legoktm: Nemo_bis thanks
[19:06:56] <malaverdiere>	 legoktm: that's the not-hardcoded kind! In newer versions, the defaults are in includes/DefaultsSettings.php - what about those older versions?
[19:08:59] <legoktm>	 hmm
[19:11:57] <legoktm>	 malaverdiere: a6d47f47ffb57840625997063ce01a93d204cdc2 / https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/9367
[19:13:13] * saper feels sentimental watching Special:Code links
[19:13:14] <malaverdiere>	 phase3/config/index.php ?
[19:14:02] <legoktm>	 config/ actually refers to the MW installer
[19:14:34] <malaverdiere>	 I see that wgGroupPermissions shows up in includes/DefaultSettings.php
[19:16:32] <malaverdiere>	 Looking on the git log that day, I'm seeing 0863dca4e0b949c6c7123f57b5c3f02bf8e197a0
[19:18:03] <malaverdiere>	 it looks like this appeared in 1.4
[19:19:30] <malaverdiere>	 legoktm: thanks a lot!
[19:19:56] <legoktm>	 np, glad to help. I'd love to read your study once you're done
[19:20:18] <malaverdiere>	 Nemo_bis: what do you have in mind? that page looks empty - so I don't have a clear inspiration :)
[19:21:15] <malaverdiere>	 legoktm: I'll ping you sometime in 2017 :) Takes time to do the research, write the article, get it accepted, etc.
[20:21:52] <Platonides>	 +/1
[20:47:54] <malaverdiere>	 legoktm: I have one last question regarding that old 1.4.x code. I see that 'asksql' is assigned twice - first to nobody, then to 'developer' - isn't the second assignment going to override the first?
[20:48:14] <malaverdiere>	 or is that old PHP behavior that worked differently?
[20:49:05] <legoktm>	 uh, do you have a link to the code again? I closed my windows already
[20:50:54] <malaverdiere>	 http://pastebin.ca/3733526
[20:51:38] <malaverdiere>	 (couldn't find the commit - so its just simpler that way)
[20:52:16] <Reedy>	 malaverdiere: yes, multiple array key's that are the same don't work
[20:52:22] <Reedy>	 I think the later one overrides, yes
[20:56:35] <malaverdiere>	 Reedy: I hope there wasn't security-critical checks relying on 'nobody' :$
[20:56:46] <malaverdiere>	 Anyways, that's ancient history
[21:15:04] <Daemonik>	 Am using mediawiki with nginx and php-fpm, when I point my browser at https://mywiki.net/wiki/Special:ListFiles the file "Special:ListFiles" is not rendered like all *.php files but is served as a file to be downloaded. How can I get Special:ListFiles to be rendered like other PHP files?
[21:33:22] <saper>	 Daemonik: what does https://mywiki.net/wiki/Main_Page do?
[21:33:36] <saper>	 Daemonik: that's probably your short url setup problem
[21:38:24] <Daemonik>	 saper, Main_Page works perfectly fine
[21:41:36] <Daemonik>	 saper, http://pastebin.ca/3733542 is what the relevant part of conf.d/mywiki.net_.conf looks like.
[21:45:50] <saper>	 Daemonik: and any other page, like /wiki/Test ?
[21:46:43] <saper>	 Daemonik: since without @rewrite it should not probably work
[22:03:26] <Daemonik>	 wiki/Test provides a the PHP file as a download rather than rendering, I have the @rewrite lines and config chunk in the pastebin above commented out now, restarted php-fpm and nginx, wiki/Test still comes in as a flie
[22:30:45] <saper>	 Daemonik: you need the @rewrite rule for it to work
[22:31:01] <Daemonik>	 saper, Can you point me to a valid example?
[22:31:05] <saper>	 Daemonik: Main_Page works only because it gets redirected to index.php
[22:31:15] <saper>	 !shorturl | Daemonik
[22:31:16] <wm-bot>	 Daemonik: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL> or try the new beta tool at <http://shorturls.redwerks.org/>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[22:31:40] <saper>	 did you try the redwerks site?
[22:47:34] <Daemonik>	 Thank you saper I think you have pointed me in a good direction I will try these things.
[23:12:39] <ardnet>	 hey all, question, how to prevent from multiple concurrent login by same user in mediawiki? thx in advance