[04:58:32] [?DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0] [05:01:52] Anyone around? [14:03:38] Good morning [14:04:29] I am having a few issues one with SimpleSAMLphp and the other with DiscussionThreading. Can anyone help me? [14:06:09] hi [14:24:54] GOod Morning [14:24:59] !ask | Hep_ [14:24:59] Hep_: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [14:25:12] Hep_: good morning :) [14:25:39] :) [14:27:07] So I have DiscussionThreading loaded and it is showing up in the Version page, I have set the proper var to turn it on and it still won't show up in the Talk Pages. Any ideas? [14:39:11] Does anyone know of a way to edit my LocalSettings.php file from the web rather than in a terminal? [14:39:39] Maybe an extension or even a whole separate program? [14:39:56] Sounds scary [15:43:39] Hep_, why would anyone want to do that? [17:20:16] Hi, [17:20:16] I'm still getting strange error "Error creating thumbnail: Invalid thumbnail parameters" for some images at bomosil.eu. You can see an example at http://www.bomosil.eu/index.php?title=Soubor:Jihlava_-_zemska_hranice_Cech_a_Moravy_v_okoli_Jihlavskych_drevarskych_zavodu_2.jpg&uselang=en . As you can see I use version 1.23.15. The image itself can be find at http://www.bomosil.eu/images/4/4f/Jihlava_-_zemska_hranice_Cech_a_Moravy_v_okoli_Jihla [17:20:17] vskych_drevarskych_zavodu_2.jpg . I tried to change $wgMaxImageArea to 10e7 (and higher). The error did not show anymore. But there was a blank screen instead of it. No warning, no error message, nothing. Also when I visit Special:Upload I get a warning "Warning: hash_equals(): Expected user_string to be a string, NULL given in /data/web/virtuals/27056/virtual/www/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 135". I don't know if this is [17:20:22] interesting. I also tried to upload the file at another wiki with success as you can see at http://urbanecmwiki.8u.cz/w/index.php?title=Soubor:Jihlava_-_zemska_hranice_Cech_a_Moravy_v_okoli_Jihlavskych_drevarskych_zavodu_2.jpg. The only one change which I made was that I changed wgMaxImageArea to bigger value. But this does not work in this case. Could anybody help me with this? [17:32:30] andre_: because my mediawiki is inside a Docker Container and is not accessible via a terminal. [17:32:50] I found on called ICEcoder [17:38:06] Hep_: This is only for very experienced people, but you could use Puppet which allows you to have your code on GitHub and it just runs it [17:41:01] Reception: THanks, [17:41:17] anyone available for apache2 conf question? [17:41:47] chunkymonkey: Just ask and someone will answer if they can [17:42:21] So I have DiscussionThreading loaded and it is showing up in the Version page, I have set the proper var to turn it on and it still won't show up in the Talk Pages. Any ideas? [17:43:05] set up mediawiki on ubuntu 14 server in www.mysite.com/mediawiki of course now when you go to www.mysite.com apache "it works" pages loads [17:43:26] Hep_: Might want to ask ashley [17:44:00] chunkymonkey, you can add something like Alias / /mediawiki in your Apache configuration. [17:44:31] add to apache2.conf ? [17:44:55] chunkymonkey, yes, if this is file where is your apache configuration stored. [17:45:07] ok i'll try that [17:45:22] Hep_: It depends on a hook that was removed in 1.14... EditSectionLinkForOther [17:45:39] Though, looks like a new hook was created [17:45:44] Reedy: I just had it up and running the other day! :( [17:46:40] Reedy: I had it up and running and it was great. Proposed it to the client and they liked it. So of course now it has to stop working. [17:57:47] still no luck [18:04:49] just get You don't have permission to access /mediawiki/ on this server now [18:05:37] i mean Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. [18:08:56] chunkymonkey, what directory is mediawiki in? ls -ltrd whereverthatis [18:09:10] (this is one of them "is it plugged in right" questions ;-) ) [18:10:49] it should say drwxr-xr-x in there or so. if it's drwx------ or drwxr--r-- or something (no directory listing access) ... then you'll get a forbidden too [18:12:04] /var/www/html/mediawiki [18:12:45] without alias www.mysite.com/mediawiki works fine [18:14:49] Reedy: alas, that's not one of "my" extensions and I have no idea how it works, sorry :( but now that I have your attention, would you happen to know of someone who'd be able to look at one simple patch of mine? (or better yet, perhaps I can somehow convince you to do it? ;-) [18:16:46] chunkymonkey, then you can try to insert something like RewriteRule ^/$ /mediawiki/ [R=302,L] and if not present, insert RewriteEngine On too. [18:18:07] (chunkymonkey, please ping me when you will have some results about the another solution) [18:18:12] okay [18:20:07] just putting mediawiki in root directory is not a solution correct? [18:25:15] This is another solution too (LocalSettings.php must be updated when this will be done otherwise it will redirect you) [18:27:03] chunkymonkey, I wrote "This is another solution too (LocalSettings.php must be updated when this will be done otherwise it will redirect you)" after you left. [18:27:32] oh [18:30:04] what line in LocalSettings needs updated? [18:31:34] $wgServer ? [18:32:16] i see several lines that include outdates IPs [18:32:22] outdated [18:33:43] should I edit lines with IPs and replace IPs with URL? [18:42:13] $wgServer is the one which do the redirect thing. [18:55:59] ashley: Why I thought you were Jack D Pond... [19:01:10] heh [19:08:30] so I have this patch which adds a few hooks to core: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/322039/ -- it should be rather trivial and shouldn't break anything [19:25:29] That's what all they say. [19:25:41] That's what they all say. [19:28:49] well, true, but hooks usually don't break stuff ;-) meanwhile "let's rewrite all of MW in Python/Java/Ruby/Haskell/node.js/something else" on the other hand... [19:30:13] Rust! [19:30:13] Go! [19:30:15] Forth! [19:30:21] Hack! [19:37:12] ashley: It looks sane... If a little bit wordy names... [19:38:11] Reedy: feel free to suggest better ones -- as you know, naming things is hard so I tried to be descriptive, even if the end result is slightly overly verbose :P [19:38:18] but only slightly! ;-) [19:38:21] DiffHook1 [19:38:23] DiffHook2 [19:38:47] "what could possibly go wrong with that?" ;] [19:40:51] ashley: I see we already have "DifferenceEngineRenderRevisionAddParserOutput" [19:40:53] lols [19:41:03] "DifferenceEngineRenderRevisionShowFinalPatrolLink" [19:41:56] sounds like wikiHow/me is to be blamed for those (wH for the original names, me for pushing 'em upstream :P) [19:44:07] I love that Wikia is using 1.19.24 [19:45:08] ashley: I'll put the C+2 back after Chad has finished poking gerrit [19:46:08] Reedy: alright, thank you very much :D (shame that there's no way to thank you for a C+2 on gerrit like how you can thank a user on-wiki for an edit or give a phab ticket a token, etc.) [20:00:12] Lol [20:00:22] Looks like more stuff to delete [20:08:44] Stroopwafels. [20:09:37] ashley: Thanking people is great, of course, but I want to get to the point where people expect quick review. [20:09:49] Debra: So fix it. [20:09:49] We do really well in some areas and terribly in others still. [20:10:03] Reedy: Trying! [20:10:08] I know you are. [20:10:24] If half as much energy went into recruiting developers as this technical code of conduct... [20:10:30] Time is finite. [20:10:45] Debra: me too, me too. this, for example, was a straightforward patch set that IMO could've been reviewed in a few days (tops), not over a week. (of course I'm biased here, but you get what I'm saying anyway) [20:10:53] :-) [20:10:59] I'm glad we have IRC. [20:11:04] I think it helps. [20:11:16] ashley, Reedy: Have either of you used Slack? [20:11:23] Nope [20:11:25] We use it where I twerk. It has an IRC gateway, at least. [20:11:37] You can add reactions (emoji) to channel messages. [20:11:43] And other dumb features like that. [20:12:02] Persistent scrollback, for better or worse. That's probably its biggest differentiator. [20:12:12] is "what is that?" a valid answer to your question? >.> [20:12:19] and slack is centralized unline IRC [20:12:22] unlike [20:13:44] Yeah, almost everyone uses Slack the company for hosting all the things. [20:13:51] IN THE CLOUD. [20:14:04] ashley: It's yet another re-implementation of IRC, of course. [20:14:07] they actually complain people start inviting users and use slack for support [20:14:27] Someone set up a MediaWiki Slack. [20:14:32] I joined it a few weeks ago to look. It's dead. [20:14:33] ah, one of those things... [20:14:45] Yeah. [20:15:18] There are others. HipChat is another corporate-y one from Atlassian. Microsoft had one or two equivalents and is about to challenge them againn, I think. [20:15:21] https://sircmpwn.github.io/2015/11/01/Please-stop-using-slack.html [20:16:21] > Slack is not a tool built for open source projects to use for communication with their userbase. It’s a tool built for teams and it is ill-suited to this use-case. [20:16:30] Hmmm. [20:16:44] people try to reinvent IRC all the time yet the majority of these implementions end up flawed and just plain buggy [20:16:53] Slack has a ton of VC. [20:17:08] And has attracted some larger companies to adopt it for corporate use. [20:30:26] what is VC? [20:31:11] venture capital(ists) [20:31:28] ok thanks Reedy :-) [20:34:13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slack_Technologies#History [20:34:26] Tens of millions of dollars. [20:35:47] whereas ircd was developed for free, right? volunteer effort and all that... I remember it comes from universities though, maybe some of ircd developments was funded as a part of university research? [20:36:03] I know of at least one organization that has IRC listed as a part of their disaster recovery plan (when employees cannot reach their usual workplace) [20:42:55] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat#History [21:02:14] Hi, does anyone knows some method/extension for mediawiki which shows summary from X newly created pages (where I can define X value). I want to fill front page of my webpage with article titles, short summary with "read more" buttons as typical for some blogs/portals [21:06:06] one more thing: the summary should be automatically generated [22:11:57] xkomczax: probably just use the API [22:12:49] Help Needed, DiscussionThreading loaded and it is showing up in the Version page, I have set the proper var to turn it on and it still won't show up in the Talk Pages. Any ideas? [22:20:50] It's got a JavaScript error among others [22:22:14] Check your Js console? [22:48:29] Hello71: it hasn't been updated in a number of years, so it may not work properly with current versions of MW [22:52:02] Reedy you need to add js vars [22:52:05] throug php [22:52:12] for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/323664/ [22:52:52] Oops [22:52:53] Lol [22:52:55] since range.moveStart('character', -".strlen($replaceMeText)."); ($replaceMeText) is a php code [22:53:05] Completely missed that [22:53:41] oh [22:54:21] Reedy is strlen even available in php? [22:54:25] Yes [22:55:19] Ok [23:21:25] p858snake|L2: OK. [23:34:03] z_AlexJFox: any hint? [23:36:35] W/wc