[01:44:58] <nerfie>	 are listuser and listgrouprights built into core that tightly that its not possible to unset or hide?
[01:45:20] <Skizzerz>	 what do you mean?
[01:45:37] <nerfie>	 like literally have those special pages not show up at all
[01:45:41] <Skizzerz>	 mediawiki by and large is not designed to be a system where some information is hidden from some people
[01:45:59] <Skizzerz>	 there are extensions that allow you to implement additional restrictions though
[01:46:02] <nerfie>	 yeah that i know, yet the other special pages can be hidden using unset
[01:46:04] <Skizzerz>	 in your case, you'd want Lockdown
[01:46:24] <Skizzerz>	 !e Lockdown | nerfie
[01:46:24] <wm-bot>	 nerfie: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown_
[01:46:27] <Skizzerz>	 er
[01:46:31] * Skizzerz stabs wm-bot 
[01:46:41] <Skizzerz>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown
[01:46:45] <Skizzerz>	 no trailing _
[01:47:06] <Skizzerz>	 it has a SpecialPagesLockdown you can use to restrict access to various special pages
[01:47:22] <nerfie>	 i'm aware of that extension, $wgHooks['SpecialPage_initList'][] seems to work
[01:50:36] <Skizzerz>	 was going to say "that should work too, what issues are you having with it" but they left
[01:50:37] <Skizzerz>	 :<
[01:51:43] <hash2>	 anyone know how to force sql ssl connections to tlsv1.2  ?
[01:52:08] <hash2>	 man, security communications is underrated :(
[01:53:00] <Skizzerz>	 look for a config option where you can manually provide a list of allowed ciphersuites, and restrict that list to only TLS 1.2 suites?
[01:53:07] <Skizzerz>	 otherwise I have no idea
[01:54:18] <hash2>	 yea, it's a boolean called $wdDBssl 
[01:54:54] <hash2>	 set to true, connects to mariadb using tls1.2. servers in my mariadb cluster talks to eachother via tlsv1.2 though
[01:54:59] <hash2>	 replicating and all
[01:57:33] <hash2>	 dont even know if it's a thing of mediawiki or a mysqli problem
[01:58:12] <hash2>	 if set to true, connects using tls1.0 * sry for the typo
[02:54:28] <c>	 is there still a way to used fixed positioning to make an image that follows you when you scroll onwiki? i read something about security concerns
[03:19:10] <Yvette>	 CSS should do it.
[03:55:46] <c>	 Yvette: i was playing around with it and flailed
[03:56:39] <Yvette>	 https://i.imgur.com/Q3cUg29.gif
[04:40:16] <c>	 Yvette: can you enable my laziness
[04:40:47] <Yvette>	 I doubt it.
[06:49:30] <newbee>	 Extension:CirrusSearch   composer install elastic failed. what's wrong?
[06:50:17] <Yvette>	 I'm not sure Elasticsearch can be installed with Composer.
[06:51:33] <newbee>	 I need a better search extension , any advice? 
[06:51:46] <Yvette>	 Google? :-)
[06:51:58] <Yvette>	 What's wrong with the current search? What are you trying to fix?
[06:53:17] <newbee>	 The search in chinese is not good enough
[06:53:38] <Yvette>	 Ah.
[06:55:13] <newbee>	 Yvette:　３ｑ
[06:55:30] <newbee>	 Yvette: thx
[06:55:40] <Yvette>	 I guess https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/install-elasticsearch.html is what you want?
[07:00:13] <newbee>	 Yvette: I succeed in installing elasticsearch but it's not enough
[07:00:57] <newbee>	 Yvette: it needs composer to install the extension "Elastic"
[07:01:41] <newbee>	 Yvette: I cannot find a solution to it. 
[07:07:09] <Yvette>	 https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/client/php-api/current/_installation_2.html ?
[07:07:22] <Yvette>	 newbee: Did you try "composer install elasticsearch"?
[07:08:30] <newbee>	 Yvette: I downloaded the .deb of elasticsearch and installed it on my ubuntu
[07:09:42] <newbee>	 Yvette: after that I try to install the Extension:Elastica
[08:58:52] <newbee>	 Is there magic word can
[08:59:09] <newbee>	 Is there any magic word can get the user group?
[08:59:24] <newbee>	 logon user group
[10:29:58] <stevenm>	 Is there any way to get the 'printable' version of the page to look exactly like the screen version?
[10:30:16] <stevenm>	 i hate how it changes the fonts and removes things like horizontal lines
[10:30:22] <andre__>	 export to pdf?
[10:30:46] <stevenm>	 i never said anything about pdf's
[10:32:53] <andre__>	 Yeah. So I did.
[10:33:04] <stevenm>	 I'm not sure how that helps though
[16:19:39] <harej>	 if I have a Title object, and call isRedirect() on it, and it ends up being a redirect, how do I get the target of that redirect?
[16:25:08] <MatmaRex>	 you need to get a Content object for it, and call getRedirectTarget() on that
[16:26:25] <MatmaRex>	 Revision::newFromTitle( $title )->getContent()->getRedirectTarget(), or something along these lines
[16:28:33] <Guest84189>	 HI, I am looking for an extension for MediaWiki that will restrict who can edit certain pages, do you know if we have any?
[16:29:28] <tabbycat>	 LockDown maybe
[16:56:06] <EddieGP>	 !lockdown
[16:56:07] <wm-bot>	 Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For per-page access protection, see !ppp. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see !access.
[16:57:43] <Skizzerz>	 lockdown isn't needed to restrict editing
[16:57:49] <Skizzerz>	 that's built into mediawiki
[16:58:03] <Skizzerz>	 just protect the page, or set up namespace permissions
[16:58:35] <Skizzerz>	 the person left so idk exactly what situation they were looking for
[17:01:58] <EddieGP>	 Skizzerz: I thought (s)he wanted an protection on per user basis. MediaWiki does not offer this, I thing Lockdown does (at least you can configure groups without going to LocalSettings). But you're right, we dont know ;)