[00:00:23] you can? use {{{param}}} in the template, and {{foo|param=bar}} to call it [00:00:28] !templates [00:00:28] For more information about templates, see . See also: !templateproblems , !wptemplates [00:48:54] ok thanks, I should have scrolled further before asking. I didn't even think about just a simple template, I googled infobox assuming there was a basic extension or template and got wrapped up in the complex route [12:37:06] hello [12:39:07] hi Turnup66 [12:41:33] was wondering what is this chat for ? talking about article on wikipedia and try to improve them ? [12:44:10] Turnup66: See the topic line: [12:44:23] Turnup66: MediaWiki support | https://www.mediawiki.org [12:44:33] For Wikipedia there are other channels. [12:44:58] thank you [13:18:51] eddiegp: ping [13:26:53] vivek___: Deel free to add your followup question already. Saves a roundtrip of communication. [13:30:26] I was working on this issue (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159678), I got exactly what it has been descripted but I am facing some issues to start with it. Could anyone give me some pointers to start with it? :) [13:31:47] Also could you tell me what is the procedure to report a bug? I found 2 bugs, finding a way to report it :) [13:32:24] vivek___: Go to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org and click report a bug [13:35:19] bawolff: Thanks [13:35:32] Thank you for taking the time to report bugs :) [13:56:14] bawolff: I found some bugs with the task.In the wikidata page some of them are not showing thumbnails.How should I proceed with this? [13:57:27] Try to make sure you add as specific as possible instructions so that the responder can see what you mean [13:57:36] beyond that you just have to wait for someone to respond [13:57:45] Unless you mean you want to help fix the task [13:58:06] In which case, you should try talking to some of the wikidata people (I don't know very much about wikidata) [14:11:06] hello there :) some1 online? [14:11:35] cedric_: how can we help? [14:12:50] hello bawolff :) we have a barely "old" Mediawiki running and not the capacities to upgrade it to the newest version, but we need a new good editor, do you have an old version of VisualEditor? [14:13:13] we currently have REL 1.24 [14:13:40] and I saw a version REL 1.23 of VisualEditor, but I get an error when I try to download it from Mediawiki [14:13:53] I'm not super familar with VisualEditor, but have you tried using the REL1_24 branch from the git repo for that extension (and related extensions)? [14:14:56] hmm I'm not sure, do you have a link for that? I googled it and couldn't find it [14:14:57] (As an aside, I should mention that 1.24 is no longer getting security updates. If you're using it, you should look at recent security updates for other versions and adapt them as neccessary) [14:15:44] oh I think with your tipp, I've just found it :D [14:16:16] bawolff: got a second? [14:16:33] cedric_: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-VisualEditor/archive/REL1_24.zip [14:16:41] Zppix: what's up? [14:16:53] perfect, I got it, thank you bawolff :) have a great day! [14:16:56] bawolff: are you able to review a mw-core change? [14:17:01] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/340983/ [14:17:49] cedric_: Keep in mind that that may not be officially supported, so no garuntees. If it doesn't work, you may have to try and look at different historical versions and find one that works (If the REL1_24 one does not, I would try the REL1_23 one next just to see) [14:18:19] aah okay, I'll try :) [14:18:26] thank you very much :) [14:18:30] Zppix: Hmm, I thought the credits file was being automated [14:19:05] bawolff: it is, but i've noticed that this user somehow got overlooked by the scirpt [14:20:09] Zppix: Can you point out to me a commit that EddieGP has made? I don't see him in the git log [14:20:19] yes [14:20:27] I cannot see the drawing tools on my chart screen [14:20:36] bawolff: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/338350 [14:20:45] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/338532 [14:20:57] is that good bawolff ? [14:21:41] He should probably be listed under the name Eddie Greiner-Petter instead of EddieGP [14:21:51] okay i will update [14:22:46] bawolff: done [14:23:28] thanks bawolff [14:23:31] +2'd [14:24:13] thank you and have good day, bye :) [15:31:46] hello [15:32:15] I am working on this issue(https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159678).In the wikidata page some of them are not showing thumbnails.How should I proceed with this? Can anyone please help me out? [15:32:20] I notice a docker image from someone called 'wikimedia', but a more popular one from 'synctree' [15:32:27] Should I use the most popular one? [15:33:18] Also, sorry for being dumb, what is the recommended way to install modules these days? [15:33:32] sorry, extensions [15:39:41] hello [15:40:22] dbolser: download the .tar.gz archives, or download from git, put them into the extensions/ directory, and add wfLoadExtension('Foo') in your LocalSettings [15:41:26] dbolser: i think everything docker-related is pretty experimental… https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-containers seems to be semi-official (linked from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Docker) [15:41:30] Hello guys, anyone can help with the mediawiki importDump.php slowness? [15:41:41] MatmaRex: I'm wondering if there is a recommended way to manage many extensions [15:41:59] (if you want a development environment, there are well-maintained vagrant images instead) [15:42:09] not really [15:42:45] I am doing the import to a RamDisk MySQL dir (XML files on RamDisk too), it usually starts with a speed of 10 rev/s and then drops to around 2.5rev/s. [15:42:48] alzayat: importDump.php is slow because it parses each page [15:43:07] people @ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144600 report 250 rev/s [15:43:14] vivek___: there's a comment on that task by thiemo, which should give you an idea how to start [15:43:23] Composer? [15:43:51] alzayat: You can be faster by using mwdumper and avoiding the reparse by getting the dumps of link tables [15:43:55] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Composer [15:44:04] (however, it should be noted that mwdumper is not wekk maintained) [15:44:06] we use composer for managing dependencies of mediawiki (and some of the extensions), folks tried using it to install mediawiki extensions too, but i think that was mostly a pain and got abandoned [15:44:09] !composer [15:44:09] Composer is a dependency manager for PHP. MediaWiki uses it to include certain external libraries. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Composer for more details. For information on how to install MediaWiki dependencies with composer see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git#Fetch_external_libraries [15:44:46] Is Composer the recommended way to manage extensions? [15:45:00] @bawolff: The problem with mwdumper is that it doesn't support any version beyond 1.25, and it fails silently [15:45:19] alzayat: Beyond that, you could try to enable profiling to see what specificly is slow, and we could go from there in trying to optimize [15:45:40] brb [15:45:40] alzayat: indeed, the poor maintenance of mwdumper has often been a problem [15:45:46] dbolser: no. the closest thing to a recommended way is to use Git, and upgrade to the next stable branch occasionally. but mostly, everyone does it their way, i think [15:46:05] MatmaRex: ty [15:46:08] The samantic people like composer for extension management. The rest of don't really [15:46:08] (that's what i can personally recommend you :) ) [15:46:23] I'm a semantic person ;-) [15:47:47] MatmaRex: Yeah,I saw that.I want to confirm whether it is a bug or not? [15:48:51] well, it says it's a bug… [15:54:59] bawolff , Zppix: Just saw this, thanks! [15:55:45] eddiegp: no problem, welcome to MediaWiki :) [15:56:57] which mediawiki docker image should I use? [15:57:50] vivek___: You pinged me about your question? [16:00:56] !docker [16:01:07] oh, guess that's not a thing [16:01:16] !doh [16:01:37] wmbot seems to have gotten bored and gone away... [16:01:57] ! [16:01:57] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [16:02:08] !docker [16:02:19] Guess its not a shortcut [16:02:29] !docker is Docker stuff is experimental. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Docker [16:02:30] Key was added [16:02:31] it is now :) [16:02:41] I don't actually know the answer, I was just assuming there was an answer and wm-bot would know :) [16:03:17] that page is rather unloved. i honestly don't know anything about docker. feel free to edit it :) [16:03:40] bawolff: right [16:04:09] I'm confused by the different versions [16:04:22] I'd go with, pick an image made by someone whos a mediawiki developer, and pick one that's for a recent version of mediawiki [16:04:44] There is one used more than all others, I figure, pick that one [16:05:02] https://hub.docker.com/search/?isAutomated=0&isOfficial=0&page=1&pullCount=1&q=mediawiki&starCount=0 [16:58:12] how do i update the backlinks? In the process of developing a wiki, was using some wiki templates but now I've deleted them. My Special:WantedTemplates lists a whole heap of things, but when I click the backlinks it says theres nothing that wants it [17:10:50] ATS63: I think that's a bug, I've been running into this too. I've been working on the sorting of the Special:WantedPages/Templates/... -pages recently and noticed this strange thing a few days ago. My guess is that the pagelinks from deleted pages still are counted when the system counts of how many pagelinks exist but filters those pages out when it's processing the page you see after clicking at those backlinks. Wanted to take a closer look this [17:10:50] week. [17:12:50] clicking through them doesn't solve anything btw [17:12:58] http://wiki.bluemts.info/wiki/Special:WantedTemplates [18:59:32] hi. This page ins't displaying a title and NoTitle isn't enabled https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Volunteers [19:01:24] That page displays "Miraheze Volunteers" as its title on Firefox 51. [19:03:08] It doesn't work on Chrome. I'll check on Firefox too [19:06:02] Works on Firefox. Weird [19:06:12] Any ideas why it might work on one but not the other? Cookies? [19:12:09] Reception123, title also shown in Chromium 56 here. [19:12:31] andre__: I'll try clearing my cookies and see [19:12:48] Reception123, I cannot imagine cookies to be related to anything like that. [19:12:53] but rather you add-ons etc [19:13:24] andre__: I only use Adblock, nothing else. This is the first time it happened and the only page [20:40:24] Hi all, I've got a question about Site:Statistics. We've been monitoring the stats weekly for a long time now but noticed that often certain counts like Active Users are not being updated and I need to run initSiteStats.php. Any thoughts on why that might be happening? [20:43:19] FWIW, we'd just been monitoring the stats with a script that parse the api.php call and sends an email but a couple of weeks ago I set up a curl_json config in Collectd to send the stats to Graphite to keep a closer eye on the stat changes. [20:57:30] Hi, is there somebody familiar with EasyTimeline extension? I'm trying to add new cs.wikipedia sysop to our table made using this extension but it throws error which can be found at https://cs.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedista:Martin_Urbanec/P%C3%ADskovi%C5%A1t%C4%9B/1&oldid=14768180. I'd appreciate help [21:00:10] Ok, the statistics issue I'm seeing is probably this bug: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:T7po6uisor9f7nz0 [21:15:01] ATS63: Still around? [21:16:04] ATS63: The thing with gost categories was mentioned a few times. It's not a bug, you just need to clean up the database with running refreshLinks.php script in maintenance folder. Afterwards those categories should be gone. [21:16:49] !logs [21:16:49] channel logs: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/ html version: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wm-bot/logs/index.php?display=%23mediawiki [22:21:29] hello again peeps [22:21:38] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Revision_table#rev_page which dumps contain this table? [22:21:48] https://dumps.wikimedia.org/metawiki/20170101/ given this dump? [23:13:17] hello, would anyone know how to make lists with numbers and letters? (i.e. A1, A2, A3, B1, B2, B3) [23:14:07] A template i'd assume [23:16:35] you can do it with CSS but its a pain from memory [23:16:49] bepending on how complex you want the formatting/list [23:22:31] just enough to list a-sides/b-sides of a cassette/vinyl [23:28:03] Anyone know of a way to automatically dredge through and convert any "external" links to pages within the same wiki into internal links? i.e.: if the text is https://wiki.example.com/$whatever replace with [[$whatever]] [23:28:43] I'm looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text as a possibility but not quite sure how to format the replace. [23:30:15] gloin: pywikibot is a usual tool for this sort of tasks [23:32:27] Platonides: Thanks. I'll look into it. [23:33:54] Actually might try perlwikibot instead simply because more familiar. [23:36:58] I won't teach new tools to an old dwarf :P [23:37:44] Keep that up and you might survive to be old someday :D [23:38:26] xD [23:39:24] Although I think I can do this particular task with the replace text extension and a good regex. It's a one-shot operation prior to rehosting a wiki. [23:39:35] Probably easier than bot-herding. [23:48:31] facto, I don't think it's possible to combine like that. Number or Letters only, but not both. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Lists#Changing_the_list_type and the link therein. [23:50:07] Easier to just do sub-bullets. (*Side A and *#track1 *#track2 *#track3 etc). But if in doubt, consult a Featured Article (or 3). :)