[00:10:48] Noone? [00:49:05] Hi everyone! [00:49:52] I'm having a problem login in a wiki that I have installed [00:51:01] When I try to login I get a similar message to this but in Spanish: http://www.indiefaqs.com/index.php/MediaWiki:Sessionfailure [00:51:34] Does anyone know how can I solve it? [00:52:22] I have tried to clean cookies and to use another browser [00:52:31] But it didn't works [01:35:41] Hello. It appears that since upgrading to PHP 7.1, warnings have been getting logged about the Hook.php file expecting references. Has that been resolved in a later build? [01:36:38] Hooks.php* [01:40:22] What version of MW are you on? [01:41:41] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153505 [01:42:17] 1.27.1 [01:43:33] Hi Reedy. [01:43:55] Ah. Awesome. [01:44:22] 1.29 should be a lot better [01:44:25] Possibly not completely fixed [01:44:50] It's mostly extensions still to fix up [01:45:16] I had used the suppressor on line 195 in Hooks.php which prevented that logging. Not a great solution but I suppose better than having a ton of warnings. [01:46:31] can someone help me deal with an error with pear ? [01:46:48] my wiki always acts up whenever I try to open Special:AllPages [01:47:28] What's the error? [01:48:15] "PHP Warning: Parameter 1 to x expected to be a reference, value given in /var/www/wiki/includes/Hooks.php on line 195" [01:48:31] it's a really long error [01:48:41] would you rather I paste it here or just link you to the page? [01:49:19] If it's public, you can link it [01:49:44] ok [01:49:47] 'X' being things like "MobileFrontendHooks::onResourceLoaderRegisterModules()" and "SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi::onParserFirstCallInit()". There's a lot more. [01:49:52] http://www.montenegrowiki.me/wiki/Posebno:SpecialPages [01:51:26] Anywho, seeing that the patching is still in progress, I'll wait for the update and go with the workaround meanwhile. Cheers. [01:51:55] Does the file exist Arcadium? [01:52:00] yes, all files exist [01:52:10] It's either a missing file, or the permissions are wrong [01:52:19] I just migrated servers earlier today to a CentOS server I built from scratch [01:52:45] i had an error with Load.php just before this error came up [01:53:02] so I changed permissions of the file to 755 and that worked like a charm [01:53:06] but now this error is showing up [01:53:23] http://www.montenegrowiki.me/wiki/Posebno:Version [01:53:37] you can see what I have installed on mediawiki here [01:53:39] I see no errors [01:54:03] you see no errors opening the first link? [01:54:08] The second one [01:54:14] yes, second one works fine [01:54:16] I know that [01:54:25] I'm just showing you what's installed on the wiki server [01:54:28] Like I say, either htat file is missing, the case is different, or hte permissions is wrong [01:54:38] ls -al /var/www/montenegrowiki.me/public_html/w/includes/specials/SpecialAllPages.php [01:54:40] What does that say? [01:57:42] it says it doesn't exist [01:57:51] and when I do type in just ls [01:57:54] the file shows up as green [01:58:01] but it shows up in the FTP... [01:58:05] what in the world [01:58:35] green whereas regular files are just gray in the console [01:59:03] oh i see what may be the problem [01:59:10] it's spelled SpecialAllpages.php [01:59:14] let me try renaming it [02:00:14] No. [02:00:16] Don't rename it. [02:01:04] Hmmm, actually, I guess it is supposed to be capital P? [02:01:12] yeah, it is [02:01:15] now the error is fixed [02:01:20] How. [02:01:21] but another one showed up [02:01:31] Why are your files mis-named? [02:01:35] I have no idea [02:02:05] I downloaded them into the server as a tar file [02:02:09] and unzipped them [02:02:11] maybe that's why? [02:02:32] Typically you'd see all files lowercase or something. [02:02:39] Not individual letters losing case. [02:02:49] The Special pages are a real mishmash of capitalizaton. [02:03:14] SpecialAllPages.php v. SpecialAncientpages.php v. SpecialBlankpage.php [02:03:30] ok now the error is "Warning: require(/var/www/montenegrowiki.me/public_html/w/includes/specials/SpecialUserLogin.php):" [02:03:39] on the server it's SpecialUserlogin.php [02:03:41] BUT [02:04:02] when I rename the file to SpecialUserLogin.php, this error shows up [02:04:14] Exception encountered, of type "Error" [02:04:14] [WMX@FQiTtV3ARbiguu7MlwAAAAo] /wiki/Posebno:SpecialPages Error from line 396 of /var/www/montenegrowiki.me/public_html/w/includes/specialpage/SpecialPageFactory.php: Class 'SpecialUserLogin' not found [02:04:15] Backtrace: [02:04:30] You should probably reinstall MediaWiki in a less broken/terrible way. [02:04:39] If you have Git installed, I'd recommend using that. [02:07:02] It looks like the files from my original server were messed up [02:07:11] Could be because I upgraded from 1.23 to 1.27 [02:07:14] Did you upgrade and move? [02:07:16] Yeah, that'll be why [02:08:27] Ah, Gergő and Brad renamed some special pages. [02:08:44] Author: Reedy [02:08:44] Date: Mon Jun 16 18:36:04 2014 +0100 [02:08:45] Rename SpecialAllpages to SpecialAllPages [02:08:48] Thank you both for helping me realize the mistake...I would've spent even more hours going through all this heh [02:08:52] * Yvette glares at Reedy. [02:10:18] These files should have consistent naming conventions [02:10:27] Maybe fix that in 1.29? :P [02:23:44] another question [02:24:06] I do occasionally suffer from loss of session data while editing an article for a while [02:24:19] and I was reading some remedies for this in MediaWiki [02:24:24] and one of them specified the following: [02:24:25] Check to see if your session.save_path value in php.ini is valid and writable to the webserver - PHP configuration. [02:24:45] Reading the PHP configuration link provided didn't really give me anything helpful [02:24:57] Any recommendations on how I'd go about doing this? [02:43:10] question [02:43:23] would it be a good idea to run a memcached server on the same server as the wiki? [02:47:19] online it's giving me it's fine if you only run it for one application, but should be separate if multiple servers accessing memcached [05:25:07] How can I create a new page for my wiki using mediawiki [05:25:18] can anyone please help me? [06:53:31] Hi everyone :) [06:54:07] I'm having a problem login in a wiki that I have installed [06:54:24] When I try to login I get a similar message to this but in Spanish: http://www.indiefaqs.com/index.php/MediaWiki:Sessionfailure [06:54:32] Does anyone know how can I solve it? [06:54:43] I have tried to clean cookies and to use another browser [06:54:51] But it didn't works [10:26:43] Hi [15:25:51] hello [15:33:37] hi sole02. [18:41:34] Hello everyone. I do not mind reading documentation, but I am having a hard time sorting through all the documentation on mediawiki.org regarding languages. I am looking for two things, ... [18:42:33] 1) How do languages work in mediawiki? If there is an english (en) wiki, and a spanish (es) wiki, will they contain the same content? Or are they separate wikis altogether. and 2) [18:43:33] How do I create a link in the sidebar, similar to the sidebar at wikipedia.org, that links to the exact page in different languages? Is this automatic, or manual. Again...help finding the documentation is really all I need. Thank you. [18:44:34] Amie, if you do mean "wiki" when you write "wiki": No, different wikis (=different URLs) do not necessarily have the same content in different languages. [18:45:22] Amie: The answer to question 2 likely depends on how you have set up your wikis on your server [18:45:43] On the Wikipedias, this is mostly done via Wikidata items nowadays [18:47:03] I'm not familiar with Wikidata items - is that an automatic translator? [18:47:58] The site I am working on has separate wikis for different languages - which means that the data is not the same across the languages. I am hoping that there is a better solution to this, and I can start working to convert to one wiki, multiple languages...if it is available. [18:52:53] andre__, do you have a recommendation of where I can start reading about this? [19:15:18] bawollf : You in? [19:59:31] Dereckson: Any updates on the Mediawiki bug? What should I do in the meantime? [19:59:39] Maybe get an older version of mediawiki and try it instead? [19:59:42] hi bkeys [19:59:48] There is indeed a bug [19:59:48] Hello [20:00:32] So the error is not with me? [20:00:46] instaed of throw an exception, we should mitigate it or display a administator friendly message explaining what happens [20:01:32] Is there any way I can run mw 1.2.8, or a slightly older version now or do I need to wait for this to be fixed? [20:03:53] (I hope that was 1.28 and not 1.2.8 :P ) [20:04:12] andre__: The instance in question is at orcadia.bkeys.org [20:05:44] My comment is irrelevant when it comes to the URL of that instance. It's only relevant when it comes to its version :) [20:06:38] Yeah; the title tag says it is 1.28.0 [20:11:42] bkeys: so this is a known bug, documented at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157890 [20:12:16] it's triggered when your php user, e.g. if you use php fpm, the fpm pool user, can't write to the default PHP sessions directory [20:12:41] Anything I can do in the here and now to get mw up and running? [20:13:03] yes, you can configure session.save_path to use /tmp or a tmp/ subdir in your user [20:13:43] Where is that file located? [20:13:43] you can do that in php.ini or directly in PHP code with http://php.net/manual/en/function.session-save-path.php [20:13:53] or in php fpm pool config [20:15:00] I edited the php.ini file, restarted php and the error persists [20:27:02] Dereckson: Hi [20:27:23] Whose responsible for font choice in Mediawiki? [20:28:47] ShakespeareFan00: developers, community [20:28:55] Okay [20:29:10] Trying to find someone that knows VOLT and FontForge [20:29:28] Indivdual fonts probaly have external maintainers [20:29:29] Isarra: ping, perhaps you've some advices for ShakespeareFan00 ^ [20:29:44] Font choice where? [20:29:49] It depends on the skin. [20:30:00] Or wiki. [20:30:11] Dereckson: on an unrelated note mind if you check what i did wrong on my mw config change i had you review earlier [20:30:29] Isarra: The problem I am having is that the default font choice on English Wikisource doesn't necessarily support 17th century typsetting that well [20:30:41] I put in a phabricator ticket... [20:30:52] Isarra: by the way, I've ve seen your skin has a green light from security, you wish I prepare a labs change to put it on labs, so we can test it on the beta cluster? [20:31:11] But was wanting to ask if someone here knew enough about font internals to fix up fonts, with an updtream patch to the font maintainers... [20:31:14] That will allow to see how it behaves with various extensions. [20:32:38] ShakespeareFan00: That sounds insanely complicated, as there are many fonts used, depending on OS, language, etc. A better bet is probably to find specific fonts that work for what you want and then only use those for that content [20:32:52] True [20:33:00] ShakespeareFan00: But to do that properly you need them to work across systems/devices, so either they would need to be fonts likely to already be installed, or webfonts. [20:33:29] Basically I recommend looking into specifics, adding it to the task, and making sure relevant people see it. I don't know who those are, though. [20:33:42] Isarra: The problem I'm having is that Linux Libertine (one of the standard wiki fonts) doesn't auto-translate s to long s [20:33:51] (Well, if you find any that would be already installed on most devices, you don't even need a ticket - just add a class to the common.css.) [20:33:54] for 18th tentury [20:34:00] and 17th century works [20:34:09] Junicode does... but only in a custom version [20:34:10] So you probably need multiple. [20:34:18] Dereckson: That would be AWESOME. [20:34:54] I am asking here because Wikisource would be a bit unique if it had a typeface that could do things most other websites can't [20:35:25] (And it can effortlessly support Transcription of older Early English texts, which at present need a lot of effort .) [20:35:36] Dereckson: Also I intend to apply for a grant so I can get some funding to actually properly put time and effort into timeless, since it's kind of been on the back burner for entirely too long, and also we still lack a lot in regards to user research/outreach. Thoughts? [20:35:36] ShakespeareFan00: unique isnt wmfs mission providing knowledge for free is [20:36:01] ShakespeareFan00: Yeah, you probably need webfonts. [20:36:18] Zppix: True, but supporting a "free" font that simply does not exist elsewhere ....? [20:36:19] Hmm [20:36:21] Not core issue [20:36:25] * ShakespeareFan00 out [20:36:27] So, er, find any free fonts that do exist, and reach other to others... [20:37:34] Isarra: I'm not familiar with the grants procedure, but yes, it would be nice if you can dedicate time for that [20:39:06] I'll send you the link as soon as I make it less bad.