[05:13:22] <Linedwell>	 Hi
[07:32:28] <Reception123>	 Currently when seeing Special:CreateAccount you see the number of edits, pages and "recent contributors". I would like to you some hook (or anything) to add one more statistic (<nowiki>{{NUMBEROFWIKIS}}</nowiki>) to add to that page. Could someone please tell me how that would be possible?
[10:25:35] <doodforfoods>	 Hey, I've got a question if anyone can help, I just installed the Scribunto extension to try to get my wikipedia export to work for infobox rendering etc, and it keeps showing "SCRIPT ERROR" pieces on the DOM and when I inspect them it has "No such modul (categoryhandler/unsubst/etc)" I found the module file just no idea where to put it
[10:25:55] <doodforfoods>	 *Module
[11:31:30] <anna_>	 Hi, I'm trying to install MediaWiki using Vagrant, and then install more extensions from Gerrit.
[11:31:47] <anna_>	 I managed to get Vagrant to run, but I cannot clone more extensions from Gerrit.
[11:32:17] <anna_>	 I get the error: Cloning into 'Translate'... Permission denied (publickey)\
[11:32:59] <anna_>	 I entered my publickey into Gerrit and I see it at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/settings/ssh-keys ,
[11:33:22] <anna_>	 but I see that I'm also supposed to enter it at wikitech.wikimedia.org at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:NovaKey 
[11:33:40] <anna_>	 and when I do that, I get the error "Failed to import keypair."
[11:33:51] <anna_>	 This may be related. What could it be?
[11:37:54] <aharoni>	 apergos, Dereckson, can you try to help anna_ ?
[11:37:58] <aharoni>	 ^
[11:41:11] <aharoni>	 Reedy Danny_B ^
[13:39:17] <A_>	 Hhhh
[13:39:27] <A_>	 Hhhhh
[13:42:09] <MatmaRex>	 yes, hello.
[14:08:15] <tran>	 hello everybody
[16:44:28] <chealer>	 hi. are my research skills deficient or is it not possible to require confirmation of new MediaWiki accounts (version 1.27) without using non-stock extensions?
[16:47:32] <eddiegp>	 chealer: What do you mean by "require confirmation"? Require some admin to review new users before they can get an account? Require to prove an mail adress during registration?
[16:48:25] <chealer>	 eddiegp: thanks... admin approval before applicants can edit
[16:49:38] <eddiegp>	 chealer: Add a "confirmed" user group that holds the right "edit" and remove that right from user group "*" (all users), giving admins the possibility to add users to that group? 
[16:51:31] <eddiegp>	 chealer: That would still alllow anyone to create an account, though they could not edit without approval. You could also lock down account creation itself by removing the "createaccount" from all users. That'd mean that there would be a need to contact an admin outsite the wiki and have the admin create the user account for the applicant
[16:52:15] <chealer>	 eddiegp: I'd prefer the user to create themselves, so the first solution is good.
[16:52:57] <eddiegp>	 Okay. Then you'll want to look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights
[16:55:18] <chealer>	 eddiegp: thanks, I already did, just not at the right time for my mind.
[16:56:13] <eddiegp>	 chealer: Glad to help, just let us know if you've trouble about anything there :)
[16:56:33] <Zppix>	 or need something explained on that page.
[16:57:02] <Linedwell>	 Hi, I have a question too
[16:57:07] <Linedwell>	 On my own wiki I have a little "problem"; logs entries and diffs from deleted pages are still visible (only the line, the diff link isn't valid) on the Special:RecentChanges  page
[16:57:46] <Zppix>	 thats normal Linedwell 
[16:57:52] <chealer>	 in fact all I'm missing is the workflow. is it possible to send an email notification to admins on new account creation (version 1.27, ideally without using non-stock extensions)?
[16:58:22] <Zppix>	 Linedwell:  the entry will show on recentchanges but the edit itself will not be able to be seen 
[16:58:49] <Linedwell>	 Zppix, usually, on WMF wikis, the changes on a deleted page are also hidden in RecentChanges
[16:59:16] <Linedwell>	 I mean, the deletion log entry is present, that's normal, but edits shouldn't
[16:59:46] <Zppix>	 Linedwell:  The log should, but the edit log, I'm pretty sure thats also normal
[17:00:10] <Linedwell>	 never seen t before on WP nor my wiki until I enabled the MiserMode
[17:00:13] <eddiegp>	 chealer: No, somebody would have to check the user account creation log regularly I'd guess.
[17:00:39] <eddiegp>	 I don't know if there's a extension for this though.
[17:01:10] <Linedwell>	 the side effect of this "unwanted visibility" is that edit sumary is still shown even if the page have been deleted + oversighted
[17:01:29] <chealer>	 eddiegp: thank you. sorry for the first question.
[17:02:04] <Zppix>	 Linedwell:  I'm assuming your on an account with admin access?
[17:02:10] <chealer>	 there is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:New_User_Email_Notification, but it is not a stock extension
[17:02:16] <eddiegp>	 chealer: Don't be sorry for asking, that's what we're here for ;)
[17:02:23] <Linedwell>	 Zppix, I also tried while logged out
[17:02:55] <Linedwell>	 same result
[17:02:57] <Zppix>	 eddiegp:  Isn't edit summaries even when deletion/oversight occours showing in RC normal?
[17:04:36] <eddiegp>	 I don't think so, at least not if all three things were hidden. I've changed RC pages recently and am remembering some logic for excluding deleted things.
[17:04:53] <Linedwell>	 I can show you what I have if you want
[17:05:56] <Linedwell>	 https://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Modifications_r%C3%A9centes
[17:06:05] <Linedwell>	 in the example of "Grammar School"
[17:06:15] <Linedwell>	 the summary is hidden
[17:06:20] <Linedwell>	 but still visible
[17:06:26] <Linedwell>	 on the recentchanges
[17:07:34] <Linedwell>	 Could the MiserMode be responsible of this "non refresh" of the RCs when there are deletions / oversights ?
[17:10:01] <Linedwell>	 just for information, this different behaviour happened the day we updated to MW 1.28, and we enabled MiserMode
[17:10:11] <eddiegp>	 I've just checked at my devwiki, there it works as expected.
[17:10:55] <Linedwell>	 you mean, even oversighted entries / summaries are still shown in recent changes ?
[17:11:14] <eddiegp>	 No, I mean they are hidden when I oversighted them
[17:11:27] <eddiegp>	 Which log entry on https://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Modifications_r%C3%A9centes?uselang=en should actually be hidden?
[17:11:28] <Linedwell>	 oh, so you confirm I have a problem ?
[17:11:56] <Linedwell>	 the "Grammar School" creation line
[17:12:04] <Linedwell>	 especially its summary
[17:12:17] <Linedwell>	 (I oversighted it as a test)
[17:13:22] <eddiegp>	 So the  N Grammar School‎; 17:04 . . (+50)‎ . . ‎90.65.100.96 (talk)‎ (Cornichin) line
[17:13:26] <Linedwell>	 yes
[17:13:58] <eddiegp>	 I'm testing that part. Didn't look up page deletion yet.
[17:14:11] <Zppix>	 page deletion should in deletion log
[17:14:26] <Zppix>	 It may not delete the New page edit summary in the RC
[17:15:48] <Linedwell>	 in a more generic way, I never seen "red link" in the RCs (exept the deletion log lines) before this
[17:16:40] <eddiegp>	 Page deletion log entry is shown in RC. But also all edits to that page should disappear from RC, which works for me (devwiki) but doesn't seem to work on there ....
[17:17:08] <Linedwell>	 yes, that's my problem
[17:17:19] <eddiegp>	 Yeah, maybe that's really about misermode
[17:17:21] <eddiegp>	 Testing.
[17:17:39] <Linedwell>	 the fact it is still visible could be an issue if we have to hide some "private informations"
[17:20:42] <Linedwell>	 if the misermode is "guilty" I should maybe use $wgDisableQueryPageUpdate instead of $wgMiserMode
[17:22:30] <eddiegp>	 WFM even with $wgMiserMode = true;
[17:23:17] <Linedwell>	 erf
[17:24:17] <Linedwell>	 well, I have no idea of what could cause it
[17:27:06] <Linedwell>	 thank you for your help eddiegp and Zppix 
[17:27:11] <Zppix>	 no problem
[17:27:15] <eddiegp>	 yw
[17:28:00] <Zppix>	 eddiegp:  file a phabricator task or so I?
[17:28:05] <Zppix>	 should*
[17:29:00] <eddiegp>	 Zppix: Feel free to :)
[17:30:45] <Zppix>	 I will asap
[17:31:32] <chealer>	 eddiegp: not really sorry for asking, but not thinking enough before :-)
[17:34:27] <eddiegp>	 chealer: Anyway, don't mind, we're happy to help ;)
[18:34:42] <c>	 reposting an unanswered question from the other day that is relevant to my interests:
[18:34:46] <c>	 "<ganiman> Hello, I am developing a new skin.  I am having a little trouble with the $this->html( 'headelement' ) function.  I need Mediawiki to give me all of the stuff if needs that goes between <head> tags, but I dont want it to produce <html> or <head> tags, just the stuff that goes between <head> tags.  Is there another function I can use?  Or is there a way to modify what $this->html( 'headelement' )"
[18:37:15] <Zppix>	 For the most part isnt everything php?
[18:37:22] <Zppix>	 disregard
[18:42:25] <bawolff>	 andre__: is there an equivalent for revision delete for phab summaries?
[18:43:29] <Zppix>	 bawolff:  t158689 was never privated...
[18:43:37] <Zppix>	 nevermind
[18:43:41] <Zppix>	 i overlooked that
[18:44:40] <bawolff>	 Well regardless, there is info in it thats arguably private but we did not realize was private at the time
[18:46:08] <bawolff>	 I guess the horse has left the barn on this one, mostly
[18:52:07] <bawolff>	 At least editing the description will get the guy's info off google
[18:53:33] <Zppix>	 bawolff:  it takes a bit for crawler
[18:54:08] <bawolff>	 I mean eventually
[19:05:44] <Reception123>	 Hi. Does anyone have any idea why Echo email notification wouldn't work?
[19:05:48] <Reception123>	 Not sure what logs and where to check
[19:06:35] <Reception123>	 they worked before (1 year ago) but now they don't anymore (it was just noticed)
[19:07:27] <bawolff>	 Do other email notices work?
[19:07:51] <bawolff>	 Or e.g. special:emailuser ?
[19:09:13] <bawolff>	 If no email works, check if the unix commandline mail program works from the server
[19:16:28] <andre__>	 bawolff, #wikimedia-devtools, and no (except for restricting access to a task) 
[19:18:23] <bawolff>	 andre__: ok, i think the person in question is ok with just living with it
[19:19:41] <bawolff>	 We'll probably email him come monday and sort it out better