[00:25:45] <dp>	 The only problem is that the articles don't have the same title across languages, so as far as I can tell I don't think a bot would be the most effective means
[00:55:34] <auvajs>	 hey, is there a way how to set $wgActions for some specific user group?
[01:55:33] <dp>	 exit
[03:11:28] <Yvette>	 Hi auvajs.
[03:11:43] <Yvette>	 !userrights
[03:11:43] <wm-bot>	 For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >.
[03:11:48] <Yvette>	 Have you read those pages?
[04:05:05] <c>	 yes hello
[04:05:15] <c>	 I have a wiki setup that uses cloudflare
[04:05:36] <c>	 currently all users are editing under cloudflare IPs, how do I get them to be under origin IP
[04:11:48] <Yvette>	 Hi c.
[04:12:16] <Yvette>	 !e TrustedXFF
[04:12:16] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TrustedXFF
[04:12:52] <Yvette>	 Maybe that?
[04:12:59] <Yvette>	 Or maybe some Web server configuration.
[04:13:15] <Yvette>	 I'm not really sure what "all users are editing under" means exactly.
[04:13:41] <Yvette>	 Oh, I guess I do.
[04:14:16] <c>	 Yvette: for example if i checkuser myself I get cloudflare IPs and not my own
[04:14:40] <Yvette>	 Did you read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CloudFlare ?
[04:14:57] <c>	 who reads manuals ?
[04:14:59] * c clicks
[04:17:03] <Yvette>	 That page seems a bit... eh.
[04:18:02] <Yvette>	 It sounds like the general problem is that Cloudflare isn't routing to origin for edits. Instead, you're hitting an edge server?
[04:18:14] <Yvette>	 Maybe, I don't know much about Cloudflare.
[04:59:56] <p858snake>	 c: you will need to work out how cloudflare is proxing the edits
[05:49:42] <boobsalot_>	 Has anyone had any luck importing the May 1st en.wikipedia dump? I'm using the 1.25 mwdumper and around page 4,820,000 I get an error about character encoding
[05:52:56] <boobsalot_>	 I saw there was some kind of update to mwdumper called load loaddump or something but can't remember the name or find it
[15:35:30] <king_nero>	 Hi i am wondering if MediaWiki has a function like the extension "EditWarning" that is unmaintained
[15:35:47] <king_nero>	 My users are wanting the ability to see if someone is currently editing the page that they want to edit
[16:08:53] <king_nero>	 My users are wanting the ability to see if someone is currently editing the page that they want to edit, anyone got any ideas?
[16:20:33] <calnation>	 Hi All. I'm setting up MW 1.28.2 and trying to get VE to work. However, it keeps getting me back to old editor. This is from the log " Illegal offset type in isset or empty in /var/www/extensions/VisualEditor/VisualEditor.hooks.php on line 20"
[17:16:46] <theology>	 please help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/43921854/installing-mediawiki-on-heroku-getting-403-you-dont-have-permission-to-acces
[17:19:05] <MatmaRex>	 theology: have you tried asking on Heroku forums or support or something? it sounds more like a Heroku issue than MediaWiki issue
[17:19:17] <theology>	 MatmaRex, not yet :x
[17:19:21] <MatmaRex>	 (if you're seeing that error, it fails before any MediaWiki code runs)
[17:20:12] <calnation>	 I'm setting up MW 1.28.2 and trying to get VE to work. However, it keeps getting me back to old editor. This is from the log " Illegal offset type in isset or empty in /var/www/extensions/VisualEditor/VisualEditor.hooks.php on line 20"
[17:21:03] <calnation>	 Not sure if it has anything to do with this, but I did actually set $wgVisualEditorAvailableNamespaces and included NS_MAIN in it but still!
[17:24:43] <andre__>	 !ask | andre__
[17:24:43] <wm-bot>	 andre__: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :)
[19:14:58] <Dan_1591>	 Hi. Is there a way to load a script or stylesheet from any WMF wiki page WITHOUT installing it? Just like WITHJS, but without its limits?
[20:21:04] <king_nero>	 My users are wanting the ability to see if someone is currently editing the page that they want to edit, anyone got any ideas?
[20:21:07] <Niharika>	 Dan_1591: What do you mean by "without installing it"? You do need to specify the script somewhere for it to be loaded. 
[20:23:41] <Niharika>	 king_nero: I found https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditWarning after a quick google search but it's not maintained. You can see if it works for you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
[20:23:46] <Dan_1591>	 @Niharika, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Snippets/Load_JS_and_CSS_by_URL Using url parameters withJS and withCSS you can load a local script if it is mediawiki namespace
[20:23:55] <king_nero>	 It doesn't work, I have already tried Niharika 
[20:24:05] <king_nero>	 I should have mentioned that, sorry
[20:25:11] <Niharika>	 Dan_1591: Aha, interesting. I didn't know about that. 
[20:25:32] <Niharika>	 king_nero: No worries. I don't have any solutions for you though, sorry. 
[20:26:04] <saper>	 hi Niharika
[20:26:22] <king_nero>	 It is ok, thanks!
[20:26:45] <saper>	 king_nero: there is a similar feature with Extension:FlaggedRevs to warn somebody else is marking pages, but I guess it's virtually unused
[20:27:00] <king_nero>	 Looking it up
[20:27:36] <king_nero>	 Allows for article content management by "editor" and "reviewer" classes
[20:27:55] <king_nero>	 I think I just need a simple line of text if someone is editing it to say "Someone is currently editing this page"
[20:28:03] <saper>	 I wouldn't recommend FlaggedRevs in general :) but that's something
[20:28:07] <saper>	 let's try EditWarning then
[20:30:24] <saper>	 "The supplied credentials could not be authenticated. " <-- what kind of message is this 
[20:30:52] <Niharika>	 Hey saper. 
[20:32:29] <king_nero>	 I have no idea what the message is lol
[20:35:38] <saper>	 it's irrelevant
[20:35:43] <saper>	 king_nero: did you try installing editwarning?
[20:35:57] <king_nero>	 No, but I saw on git that it didnt work on 1.25
[20:36:05] <king_nero>	 or or 24
[20:36:12] <king_nero>	 So, I didn't bother on 1.26
[20:36:19] <saper>	 what does it mean "didn't work"?
[20:36:45] <king_nero>	 https://github.com/nemphis/mw-editwarning/issues/1
[20:38:04] <saper>	 that's not a good bug report
[20:38:15] <king_nero>	 I agree on that
[20:38:40] <king_nero>	 I will try it tonight, but I can't right now as our users are currently on
[20:40:03] <saper>	 you should have a development instance installed in parallel :)
[20:44:44] <saper>	 quickly updated my testwiki to 1.28.1
[20:45:30] <king_nero>	 I should, I just do not have the time at the moment to spin it up.
[20:46:37] <saper>	 ok got it installed and not crashing the wiki
[20:49:49] <king_nero>	 Does it work?
[20:49:58] <king_nero>	 When you edit the page on two broswers?
[20:50:27] <saper>	 [WRTOjV4X8jAAADxB4G0AAAAO] 2017-05-11 20:50:21: Fatal exception of type "DBQueryError"
[20:50:30] <saper>	 not yet
[20:50:34] <king_nero>	 ahh
[20:52:59] <saper>	 not crashing the wiki is already a success
[20:53:04] <saper>	 just two lines had to be removed
[20:53:07] <saper>	 or one
[20:53:10] <king_nero>	 which?
[20:55:56] <saper>	 king_nero: https://github.com/nemphis/mw-editwarning/compare/master...saper:REL_1_28?expand=1
[20:57:02] <king_nero>	 perfect, thank you very much
[20:57:13] <king_nero>	 I will attempt to install tonight, when everyone is at home
[20:58:56] <saper>	 yeah but it's not working yet, watch my repo :)
[21:01:26] <king_nero>	 perfect, will do
[21:01:54] <saper>	 ah I created tables in the wrong database :)
[21:02:17] <king_nero>	 Let me know if that is the fix :D
[21:21:46] <saper>	 king_nero: got it kind of working
[21:22:56] <king_nero>	 ahh
[21:22:58] <king_nero>	 How so?
[21:23:17] <saper>	 pushed
[21:23:41] <king_nero>	 ahh
[21:23:43] <king_nero>	 syntax change?
[21:24:13] <saper>	 Until 2017-05-11 21:32 other users get the warning that you're editing this article. You can extend this time period by clicking Show preview.
[21:24:16] <saper>	 You can leave this screen by clicking Cancel.
[21:25:48] <saper>	 https://github.com/nemphis/mw-editwarning/pull/2
[21:26:25] <saper>	 king_nero: it is not a cool AJAX thing but a decent message at the top
[21:26:42] <king_nero>	 I will attempt to run it tonight and see if it works :D
[21:26:46] <saper>	 king_nero: try http://tools.wikimedia.pl/~saper/b/index.php?title=NewPage&action=edit
[21:26:49] <king_nero>	 ty for getting it going
[21:27:11] <saper>	 see the url?
[21:27:59] <king_nero>	 yep
[21:28:03] <king_nero>	 It looks good enough
[21:28:05] <king_nero>	 I can customize it
[21:28:31] <king_nero>	 tyvm
[21:30:48] <king_nero>	 It works! I ran it haha
[21:30:51] <king_nero>	 thank you very much saper
[21:30:52] <king_nero>	 :D
[21:36:09] <saper>	 :) cool
[21:36:21] <saper>	 write me a testimonial for enteprise customers :)
[21:44:04] <theology>	 OMG
[21:51:03] <king_nero>	 hey saper
[21:51:06] <king_nero>	 one more question
[21:51:15] <king_nero>	 oh and where do i write the testimonial
[21:51:29] <king_nero>	 Is there anyway to display this message in Mobile view?
[22:02:50] <saper>	 king_nero: I don't know
[22:07:58] <king_nero>	 k thanks saper
[22:20:13] <PonglesEsquire>	 I am having trouble getting SVG support working on my wiki. I have imagemagicks installed and working and have followed the instructions in Manual:Image_administration#SVG but then I get this error: https://doormonster.wiki/wiki/File:Fencing_foil_valid_surfaces.svg
[22:20:26] <PonglesEsquire>	 and yes, I borrowed my test image from wikipedia
[22:20:35] <Reedy>	 permissions?
[22:21:10] <PonglesEsquire>	 for testing purposes they are more open than a brothel on a weekend
[22:22:35] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Pqhbjjmkgojjqbfi
[22:22:41] <Reedy>	 "the directory had the wrong owner and couldn't be written to"
[22:25:02] <PonglesEsquire>	 The folder is owned by root, I don't know what other user to chown it to
[22:25:54] <PonglesEsquire>	 It's run on a virtual server that I have ssh capablities on
[22:26:11] <Reedy>	 whatever user your webserver is running as?
[22:26:14] <Reedy>	 www-data possibly
[22:26:54] <PonglesEsquire>	 I do see a www-data in the list. Should I chown the images directory and it's contents or just the tmp?
[22:27:30] <Reedy>	 tmp for starters would probably elimate the problem
[22:27:39] <Reedy>	 Do normal uploads work fine currently?
[22:27:42] <Reedy>	 presumably they do
[22:27:51] <PonglesEsquire>	 normal uploads work fine
[22:28:22] <PonglesEsquire>	 it's just svg that's failing, seemingly because imagemagicks is having trouble with the png preview conversion
[22:29:10] <PonglesEsquire>	 I've chowned tmp then images to www-data and I am still getting the error
[22:30:19] <Reedy>	 is it 777'd too presumably based on your previous comment? :P
[22:31:14] <PonglesEsquire>	 I am pretty sure it is due to me not cleaning up after my attempt to get image uploading working from the start but I did redo it just in case but the error persists
[22:42:32] <PonglesEsquire>	 screw it, instead of messing around server side, I installed a extension that makes the browser render it 
[22:44:25] <PonglesEsquire>	 every modern browser has at least basic support for them, might as well put that to work
[22:44:30] <Skizzerz>	 /tmp should be chown root:root and chmod 1777 (if that's what you were referring to when you said tmp, instead of some other mw-specific temporary directory)
[22:44:45] <PonglesEsquire>	 public_html/images/tmp
[22:44:51] <Skizzerz>	 ok
[22:45:17] <PonglesEsquire>	 surprisingly I was talking about the mediawiki temp directory in the mediawiki channel. :P
[22:45:42] <Reedy>	 You can't always be sure with people in here
[22:45:48] <PonglesEsquire>	 true
[22:46:08] <Skizzerz>	 make a whoami.php in your public_html with the contents <?php $uid = posix_getpwuid( posix_getuid() ); $gid = posix_getgrgid( posix_getgid() ); echo $uid['name'] . ':' . $gid['name']
[22:46:13] <Skizzerz>	 then visit it in your browser
[22:46:26] <Skizzerz>	 that will tell you what user/group mediawiki is running under, so you know what to chown the files/directories to
[22:46:43] <Skizzerz>	 er, that needs a ; at the very end of it
[22:46:54] <PonglesEsquire>	 why don't I just ls -l and see what user that way?
[22:47:06] <PonglesEsquire>	 admittedly I didn't think of that til now
[22:47:09] <Skizzerz>	 the owner of the files is not necessarily the user the webserver is running the files under
[22:48:02] <Skizzerz>	 looking at your webserver config or executing a script that reports the user/group is the only way to be 100% sure
[22:48:37] <PonglesEsquire>	 that gives me a 500 error
[22:49:49] <Skizzerz>	 did you put the extra ; at the end? I forgot it
[22:49:54] <Skizzerz>	 echo $uid['name'] . ':' . $gid['name'];
[22:50:32] <PonglesEsquire>	 so it says www-data:www-data
[22:50:39] <Skizzerz>	 ok
[22:51:01] <Skizzerz>	 so that's the user/group that the webserver is running as, so if you chown your images dir to www-data, the webserver will have full access to it
[22:51:26] <PonglesEsquire>	 I did though
[22:51:33] <PonglesEsquire>	 and still got the errors
[22:51:34] <Skizzerz>	 and it's still erroring?
[22:51:39] <Skizzerz>	 I blame magic
[22:51:53] <Skizzerz>	 (because at that point nothing is making sense)
[22:52:04] <PonglesEsquire>	 I blame imagemagicks because when I tried rsvg after it didn't error
[22:52:08] <Skizzerz>	 unless you have suexec or something and it's complaining because the permissions are TOO open
[22:52:13] <Skizzerz>	 ah
[22:52:18] <Skizzerz>	 so I was close then :D
[22:52:31] <PonglesEsquire>	 but at this point it's moot as I have it using the browser's render
[22:52:43] <Skizzerz>	 well, glad you found something that works
[22:53:05] <PonglesEsquire>	 Me too, stops the front end guy from complaining 
[22:53:07] <PonglesEsquire>	 :P
[22:53:17] <PonglesEsquire>	 at least for a little bit