[01:33:56] <AriMartti>	 hi, just runned BlockAndNuke's ban.php script
[01:33:58] <AriMartti>	 Found 24575 bannable users and 15299 pages
[01:35:04] <AriMartti>	 noticed that every banned user had checked selection "Automatically block the last IP address used by this user, and any subsequent addresses they try to edit from (also called hardblocking)"
[01:35:30] <AriMartti>	 so maybe I have now many IP addresses blocked in my mediawiki installation
[01:36:44] <AriMartti>	 I wonder if that operation have any side-effects to some other users than spammers from years 2012-2013
[01:37:29] <AriMartti>	 so how can I review those IP based blocks?
[01:41:14] <AriMartti>	 my mediawiki is installed in finnish so also special pages urls are translated
[01:41:22] <AriMartti>	 but i think
[01:42:03] <AriMartti>	 I have in Special:Block list only usernames bun no any IP address
[01:43:09] <AriMartti>	 sorry, Special:BlockList is the list i checked
[03:24:01] <Niharika>	 AriMartti: Check Special:AutoBlocklist maybe?
[03:44:00] <Niharika>	 extrarius_guest: I don't think you can do that easily. You'd need to create an extension/modify core code to do that sort of a thing, I suppose.  
[06:57:57] <amrits>	 I am using mediawiki version 1.28.2 as my localhost, when I try to launch VisualEditor, it seems to show that the 'localhost says:"http"', how do I rectify this issue?
[07:30:27] <miloo_amila>	 hi
[07:47:32] <andre__>	 hi miloo_amila
[08:02:11] <miloo_amila>	 I'm searching information about RIP software, here can I found them?
[08:28:27] <prakamya>	 hello everyone i am new to mediawiki .....how should i start ?
[08:30:12] <andre__>	 miloo_amila: What is "RIP software"?
[08:30:31] <andre__>	 Hi prakamya and welcome! What would you like to do with MediaWiki? :)
[08:30:31] <AriMartti>	 prakamya: are you going to be developer, contributor or administrator?
[08:31:13] <prakamya>	 yeah i want to contribute as a developer!!!
[08:31:59] <AriMartti>	 then https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/List_of_tutorials may be worth of digging
[08:32:44] <AriMartti>	 e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub
[08:33:16] <prakamya>	 thank you @AriMartti
[08:33:33] <AriMartti>	 no need to @-mark me :D
[08:34:05] <prakamya>	 what is Phabricator?
[08:35:43] <AriMartti>	 bug tracker?
[08:36:11] <AriMartti>	 i was wondering that too last night when i found bug from BlockAndNuke extension
[08:37:31] <AriMartti>	 I'm not sure if I should write specific bug report or create account there and do pull request
[08:39:59] <miloo_amila>	 RIP = Raster Image Processor
[08:41:04] <prakamya>	 i want try for GSOC under Wikimedia Foundation next year then how should i start ? 
[08:46:30] <andre__>	 "Developer Hub" is for experiences developers.
[08:46:34] <andre__>	 prakamya, I'd recommend to take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
[08:48:35] <andre__>	 prakamya: it also links to coding tasks for starters and explains how to set up your development environment
[08:49:08] <prakamya>	 ok thanks!!
[10:16:19] <Niharika>	 AriMartti: You want to make a PR to BlockAndNuke?
[10:17:04] <Niharika>	 AriMartti: We use Gerrit for code review, so you should submit your patch there and not in Github. 
[10:17:52] <AriMartti>	 Niharika: yes, https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:S27v0luobpyhyjl9&topic_showPostId=trjfnwig076af8hp#flow-post-trjfnwig076af8hp
[10:19:45] <AriMartti>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/EBAN/browse/master/BanPests.php;e3ea66fb8dba64eb7e68178c42109d2d52f5c342$18
[10:19:50] <AriMartti>	 there
[10:20:37] <AriMartti>	 so my patch might be to change 200 -> 8192
[10:20:44] <AriMartti>	 not actually coding
[10:21:44] <AriMartti>	 i think it's not necessary to link to documentetion of php and fread function
[10:22:03] <Niharika>	 AriMartti: Ah. It'd still have to go on gerrit. I don't understand the change - I could make the patch if you explain it to me?
[10:22:52] <AriMartti>	 i had about 25k accounts in my mediawiki and only 388 was ok
[10:23:51] <AriMartti>	 there was 6 accounts in recent changes table which exists in whitelist.txt but blockandnuke didn't recognise those
[10:24:30] <AriMartti>	 after i change the value there was no problem about that
[10:25:04] <AriMartti>	 seems like blockandnuke didn't read the whitelist.txt to end
[10:25:42] <Niharika>	 AriMartti: Where does the 8192 number come from?
[10:25:54] <AriMartti>	 stackoverflow
[10:26:40] <AriMartti>	 sorry, http://php.net/manual/en/function.fread.php
[10:27:24] <AriMartti>	 i'm not a coder but increasing that value might be good idea
[10:30:34] <AriMartti>	 i think 8 kbyte might be better than 200 bytes and 8192 is 2^14 so it's nice number
[10:30:52] <AriMartti>	 sorry 2^13
[10:39:34] <Niharika>	 AriMartti: I submitted a patch. 
[10:39:58] <Niharika>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/356362/ 
[10:40:05] <Niharika>	 Needs reviews. 
[10:55:23] <AriMartti>	 Niharika: Bartosz Dziewoński might be thinking the correct way
[10:55:51] <AriMartti>	 if there is function in php to read entire file why don't use that?
[10:56:01] <MatmaRex>	 (that's me. hi!)
[10:56:09] <AriMartti>	 :)
[10:58:25] <AriMartti>	 the process clearing spam from years 2012-2013 was a little bit problematic :)
[10:58:54] <AriMartti>	 i had to repopulate recent changes table by 9 years data and then run ban.php
[11:05:58] <Niharika>	 I agree. I can change it but I can't test the changes.  
[11:07:16] <AriMartti>	 maybe you can generate 50k accounts to mediawiki, then whitelist 1500 and run ban.php?
[11:08:02] <AriMartti>	 there is no need to have modifications to ban an account
[11:08:57] <AriMartti>	 it was very cool that ban.php wasn't crash last night :)
[11:09:08] <Niharika>	 AriMartti: Could you test the changes on your install for now? I updated the patch. 
[11:09:46] <AriMartti>	 there were characters like ' and ; in id_name
[11:10:15] <AriMartti>	 Niharika: those 24,5k users are already banned
[11:10:38] <AriMartti>	 so there might be no effect to rerun ban.php
[11:17:43] <AriMartti>	 i wonder if bans are cleared if i truncate ipblocks table?
[11:18:23] <AriMartti>	 that is production wiki so i should not test something like that
[14:17:49] <extrarius_guest>	 how can I modify the account creation page to have additional fields that must be filled out by the user? I don't mind having to create an extension, but I can't seem to find the right hooks/etc for this
[14:20:48] <MatmaRex>	 extrarius_guest: i would guess that you need to implement a PrimaryAuthenticationProvider (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:SessionManager_and_AuthManager#PrimaryAuthenticationProvider) and add it to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAuthManagerAutoConfig
[14:20:57] <MatmaRex>	 documentation on this seems a bit scarce though :(
[14:33:12] <extrarius_guest>	 MatmaRex: Any idea where in any of the existing PrimaryAuthenticationProviders they define form elements?
[14:35:18] <MatmaRex>	 hm, good question
[14:38:28] <MatmaRex>	 extrarius_guest: it seems to be a part of AuthenticationRequest (e.g. see PasswordAuthenticationRequest::getFieldInfo()). but i have no idea how an AuthenticationProvider is associated with an AuthenticationRequest
[14:39:03] <extrarius_guest>	 thanks for the pointer
[14:39:42] <extrarius_guest>	 it always amazes me how some complicated features can be implemented easily, while some seemingly-simple changes require delving deep
[17:04:30] <Betacommand>	 Anyone have ideas why internal IP addresses IE 10.10.x.x would be leaking into MW as the user's IP address?
[17:08:01] <MatmaRex>	 Betacommand: presumably you do not have them set in $wgSquidServers/$wgSquidServersNoPurge, or they are not sending X-Forwarded-For
[17:11:24] <Betacommand>	 MatmaRex: $wgSquidServersNoPurge does have the IP Ill see if its sending the X-forward for
[18:08:55] <SandovalCurse>	 hey all
[18:18:24] <andre__>	 hi SandovalCurse
[18:20:29] <SandovalCurse>	 hey andre_! so I have a question for the chat. how would you handle linebreaks in a tooltip via imagemap? the imagemap extension is generating the desired tooltip on hover, but I'd like to turn the caption into an ordered list. i.e. [[Page Link|Ordered List 1 <br/> Ordered List 2 <br/> Ordered List 3]]
[18:20:38] <SandovalCurse>	 but obviously <br/> is rendered as text in an imagelink.
[18:20:44] <SandovalCurse>	 or rather an internal link
[18:20:45] <SandovalCurse>	 any ideas?
[21:00:21] <Nic__>	 Hello :)
[21:01:18] <Nic__>	 Hi :)
[21:02:00] <TimStarling>	 RFC meeting starting now in #wikimedia-office: PostgreSQL schema change for consistency with MySQL
[21:02:20] <Nic__>	 Hello badon
[21:21:00] <issue129>	 Hi I have issues upgrading to 1.29.0-rc.0
[21:21:39] <issue129>	 after checking it out and running composer update I get
[21:22:07] <issue129>	 PHP Fatal error:  Class 'Wikimedia\\Timestamp\\ConvertibleTimestamp' not found in /.../w/includes/MWTimestamp.php on line 32
[21:22:40] <issue129>	 Moreover update.php silently fails to run, proably becaus of the fatal
[21:28:17] <OH->	 issue129, did you try running "composer install"?
[21:29:56] <issue129>	 you mean instead of composer update. Just tried and the result: Nothing to install or update.
[21:30:08] <issue129>	 totally stuck
[21:30:29] <issue129>	 update.php does not even issue errors. it does not even run.
[21:33:25] <OH->	 is there a vendor directory with wikimedia/timestamp in it?
[21:39:04] <issue129>	 yes there is.
[21:39:26] <issue129>	 i am loading a couple of extensions via composer.local.json
[21:39:37] <issue129>	 after removing them it worked to upgrade
[21:39:52] <issue129>	 will not try to get these abord again
[21:47:36] <issue129>	 after getting the extensions in everything is gone again. interestingly no php errors. just a 500
[21:48:20] <issue129>	 what is painful is that i planned the ususal 5 minutes for the upgrade
[21:48:27] <Vulpix>	 issue129: you probably have error reporting disabled, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug
[21:48:46] <issue129>	 no, error reporing is enabled.
[21:49:45] <issue129>	 a it was on e_error
[21:49:50] <issue129>	 so lets seel
[21:49:53] <issue129>	 see
[21:54:19] <issue129>	 ok, back in business.
[21:54:29] <issue129>	 the widgets extension was giving pain
[21:54:48] <issue129>	 however this issue is unrelated to what I experienced in the first place
[21:54:57] <issue129>	 so lessons learned.
[21:55:13] <issue129>	 uninstall all extensions installed via composer
[21:55:17] <issue129>	 do the mediawiki thing
[21:55:29] <issue129>	 reinstall all extensions via composer
[21:55:36] <issue129>	 continue on
[22:10:56] <issue129>	 There is sill an issue with the timestamp stuff. will report
[22:22:02] <extrarius_guest>	 In "AuthenticationProvider"s and "AuthenticationRequest"s I see where the form fields are defined, but I don't see any validation code. I would like to create a text input with a validation pattern (html attribute pattern with value being regular expression). Is there any way to create such a form element for use during account creation?