[00:52:33] <harej>	 Writing something in JavaScript. Anything wrong in particular with this: new mw.Api().postWithEditToken( {
[00:52:48] <harej>	 The error I am getting is: Uncaught TypeError: (intermediate value).postWithEditToken is not a function
[01:33:14] <Esther>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22postWithEditToken%22&title=Special:Search&profile=all&fulltext=1&searchToken=1p9pr6myfakk7xp7lajtrs83g
[01:33:21] <Esther>	 may help.
[01:33:23] <Esther>	 harej: ^
[01:54:15] <tochyto>	 hola ¿hay alguien que escriba español por aqui?
[01:59:46] <Esther>	 Hola.
[02:03:23] <tochyto>	 Hola Ester
[02:03:42] <tochyto>	 tengo un problema con una publicacion y queria ver si alguien me ayuda
[02:04:11] <tochyto>	 ¿podrias tu ayudarme?
[02:07:32] <Esther>	 tochyto: Que es la problema?
[02:07:42] <Esther>	 el problema?
[02:12:33] <tochyto>	 bueno hice una pagina referente a un album musical de una banda local de la que casi no hay informacion en internet
[02:12:33] <tochyto>	 ahora aparece una notificacion de que va a ser eliminada por "non-notable no chart info"
[02:13:47] <tochyto>	 la informacion es real pues yo conosco sus albumes que fueron publicados hace años pero la informacion esta alli y esa es mi unica fuente por el momento
[02:17:13] <tochyto>	  no se como agregar enlaces de otras paginas ni subir fotografias locales desde mi maquina ¿podrias tu orientarme a crear los enlaces a las paginas externas a wikipedia o a subir las fotos desde mi maquina por favor? 
[02:42:17] <tochyto>	 #exit
[02:42:54] <bawolff>	 Tochyto: use /quit
[02:43:35] <tochyto>	 gracias bawolff
[04:51:25] <mertyildiran>	 hi, I'm using this Short URL configuration on my website: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Page_title_--_Windows_%26_Apache_without_403_on_Special_Pages#Step_3
[04:51:50] <mertyildiran>	 How can I define a special rule for "robots.txt"?
[04:52:13] <mertyildiran>	 It says you need to define special rules in here but unclear: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory
[06:14:53] <mertyildiran>	 I found it: RedirectMatch 301 /robots.txt ^/robots.txt
[06:15:00] <mertyildiran>	 Thanks anyway...
[07:46:47] <tdmike>	 hello, I have a question regarding LDAP authentication on 1.28.2, is this extension working ?
[07:50:07] <andre__>	 I am afraid that no code is certified bug-free?
[07:50:34] <andre__>	 maybe the extension works for some. or not for others.
[07:53:10] <tdmike>	 Well i'm asking because of the warning on the wiki page that it's not fully working but I cannot seem to found out what's is not working
[12:45:02] <dAnjou>	 hi, do I have access to dynamic values in a template? Like, I want to show the most recent author and when the article has been updated the last time.
[12:52:55] <dAnjou>	 ah, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Technical_metadata
[13:03:50] <dAnjou>	 how is the changing color implemented here? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MW_version
[13:08:46] <andre__>	 dAnjou, via https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MW_version/color
[13:09:06] <dAnjou>	 yeah, just discovered this
[13:09:07] <andre__>	 See "Templates used on this page" in Edit mode
[13:09:16] <dAnjou>	 on that page :D
[13:10:08] <dAnjou>	 so you can style things based on contents of another template/page
[13:51:05] <dp07Daniel>	 Hello people!!! I am here again. I need a little help. I installed a week ago, my new wiki, I create my /w/index.php and my .htaccess to redirect to /wiki/page. But now, I am seeing that all my links be similar to: "/w/index.php?title=Special:CreateAccount&returnto=Main+page"
[13:51:11] <dp07Daniel>	 When I need to be "/wiki/Special:CreateAccount&returnto=Main+page"
[13:51:19] <dp07Daniel>	 How I can solve this link's problems?
[13:52:47] <Esther>	 dp07Daniel: Do the links work?
[13:53:00] <dp07Daniel>	 Yes.
[13:53:02] <Esther>	 "/wiki/Special:CreateAccount&returnto=Main+page" isn't valid.
[13:53:33] <dp07Daniel>	 Wait. I will put the complete link
[13:53:38] <Esther>	 dp07Daniel: So you just think the links are ugly?
[13:53:41] <dp07Daniel>	 https://natasha-bot.com/w/index.php?title=Especial:Crear_una_cuenta&returnto=P%C3%A1gina+Principal
[13:53:47] <Esther>	 Wikipedia uses /wiki/Foo for display links.
[13:54:02] <Esther>	 But still uses /w/index.php?Foo&action=edit for non-display links.
[13:54:11] <dp07Daniel>	 Me too, but the links change...
[13:54:23] <Esther>	 Change how?
[13:54:25] <dp07Daniel>	 Try this: https://natasha-bot.com/wiki/
[13:54:36] <dp07Daniel>	 And clic on create account
[13:55:01] <Esther>	 Did you set $wgArticlePath in LocalSettings.php ?
[13:55:07] <Esther>	 !shorturl
[13:55:07] <wm-bot>	 To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL> or try the new beta tool at <http://shorturls.redwerks.org/>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[13:55:18] <Esther>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page <-- Click the create account link here to see similar behvaior.
[18:07:53] <KataiKou>	 Is there a magic word to get all the parameters passed into template?  I have a template, and I want to relay the parameters to a second template without having to do  |param1={{{param1|}}} | param2={{{param2|}}} ... all the way down the line
[18:13:55] <MatmaRex>	 KataiKou: no, there isn't. if you have Scribunto installed on your wiki, you can access all of the parameters in its modules, though.
[18:16:12] <KataiKou>	 i thought that would be the case.  Looks like I get to learn a new language today
[20:01:09] <chris_>	 hello there mediawiki
[20:01:31] <chris_>	 is anyone here on the ops team?
[20:01:41] <Reedy>	 Which ops team?
[20:01:50] <chris_>	 for wikipedia
[20:01:53] <chris_>	 good point
[20:01:58] <chris_>	 I have no idea how you organize
[20:02:05] <Reedy>	 Probably the wrong channel
[20:02:08] <Reedy>	 Depends what you're going to ask
[20:02:30] <chris_>	 the past couple of nights, my organization has been scaling up load tests
[20:02:34] <chris_>	 without warning my team
[20:02:42] <chris_>	 and my service calls wikipedia directly
[20:02:52] <chris_>	 tomorrow night there's going to be a bunch more traffic
[20:03:09] <chris_>	 and I just want to make sure that we reached out to someone to let them know
[20:03:28] <Reedy>	 Calls Wikipedia directly... how?
[20:03:40] <chris_>	 through the API
[20:03:47] <Reedy>	 Requesting what?
[20:03:54] <chris_>	 wiki page summaries
[20:04:49] <Reedy>	 I wonder if what you're requesting is reasonably well cached
[20:05:11] <Reedy>	 It may be better for you to create a phabricator task or similar, so people have a way to reach you incase we notice problems
[20:05:17] <chris_>	 "reasonable" ... possibly
[20:05:22] <chris_>	 there is a caching system in placed
[20:05:27] <chris_>	 place*
[20:05:38] <chris_>	 sure
[20:05:42] <chris_>	 where do I go to do that?
[20:06:09] <chris_>	 in general, "how would you guys like me to do this"
[20:06:11] <Reedy>	 I mean cached by our parser cache, app servers, web caches etc
[20:06:24] <Reedy>	 Do you have an account on wikitech and/or mediawiki.org?
[20:06:44] <chris_>	 I do not believe so
[20:07:03] <chris_>	 it's an inherited service, so there may have been an account in the passt
[20:07:06] <chris_>	 I can create one
[20:07:15] <Reedy>	 Probably easiest, then it has your email :)
[20:07:26] <Reedy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ is where you want to create a ticket, possibly tagged as operations
[20:07:37] <MatmaRex>	 !newbug
[20:07:38] <wm-bot>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/
[20:10:02] <chris_>	 I'll do that
[20:10:04] <chris_>	 thanks
[20:14:56] <chris_>	 can I get some guidance on what project this applies to?
[20:15:27] <chris_>	 how I should tag it?
[20:16:33] <Reedy>	 Just Operations is fine
[20:20:07] <Reedy>	 chris_: Aha
[20:20:12] <Reedy>	 I see why you were worried now :D
[20:21:38] <Reedy>	 chris_: Do you know what api queries you're actually doing?
[20:41:35] <Niharika>	 "wiki page summaries" they said. 
[20:41:52] <Niharika>	 Probably pageextracts.
[20:42:49] <Reedy>	 They could be getting the full articles and then just grabbing the first section
[20:42:53] <Reedy>	 Or something equally silly
[20:42:59] <Reedy>	 Hopefully we find out :P
[20:43:30] <Niharika>	 :P 
[20:50:45] <chris_>	 pageextracts is right
[20:50:49] <chris_>	 I've updated the ticket
[21:17:49] <cplusga>	 hi guys and gals. anyone know why mediawiki might think iconv is not installed when my php 5.6 has iconv built in?
[21:20:28] <MatmaRex>	 cplusga: make sure it's enabled in php.ini?
[21:21:01] <Vulpix>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Php.ini
[21:42:00] <cplusga>	 yeah, ever since php 5.5 iconv is on by default, doesn't need enabling in php.ini
[21:42:18] <cplusga>	 i just said F it and installed mediawiki 1.23 which doesnt need iconv
[21:43:46] <Vulpix>	 MediaWiki 1.23 is also not supported and potentially insecure
[21:46:23] <cplusga>	 these jokers at my firms webhost wont give me root to the vps
[21:46:55] <cplusga>	 cant troubleshoot... going to run with the old stuff for now :(
[21:47:47] <cplusga>	 do you know if migrating the database from 1.23 to latest is "easy" or do you have to do processing?
[21:48:16] <cplusga>	 i was reading something about some legacy versions being easier after a certain point
[21:48:31] <MaxSem>	 cplusga, depending on your configuration, your 1.23 might be hacked with just a browser
[21:49:27] <MaxSem>	 database upgrades should be pretty straightforward
[21:49:39] <MaxSem>	 provided you have backups, of course
[21:49:55] <MaxSem>	 this has been the case since 1.5
[21:50:05] <cplusga>	 ayyyyy i need root. have you seen problems with iconv being recognized before? my PHP config says --with-iconv
[21:50:06] <MaxSem>	 old schemas are more fun
[21:50:11] <cplusga>	 but mediawiki says i need to install it
[21:50:29] <MaxSem>	 what does phpinfo() say?
[21:50:37] <cplusga>	 phpinfo says i have it
[21:50:43] <cplusga>	 php is built in with it since 5.5
[21:52:34] <cplusga>	 "which iconv" gives me /usr/bin/iconv so i assume php can find it just fine
[21:53:06] <MaxSem>	 cplusga, what do you mean by "mediawiki might think iconv is not installed"? "Error: Missing one or more required components of PHP"?
[21:53:20] <cplusga>	 yup
[21:53:40] <MaxSem>	 well
[21:54:39] <MaxSem>	 any chance of http://php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.disable-functions ?
[21:54:53] <MaxSem>	 because we literally check if iconv() is present
[21:55:27] <cplusga>	 let me see
[21:57:40] <cplusga>	 nope
[21:58:05] <cplusga>	 is iconv something i can hack out of the new version or is it entangled?
[21:58:17] <cplusga>	 i assume its everywhere
[21:59:43] <MaxSem>	 simple check: <?php echo iconv('UTF-8', 'ISO-8859-1', 'iconv() works!');
[21:59:52] <cplusga>	 let me try
[22:00:45] <cplusga>	 undefined func :<
[22:01:13] <MaxSem>	 apt or rpm based Linux?
[22:02:07] <cplusga>	 rpm
[22:02:12] <MaxSem>	 hahah
[22:02:29] <cplusga>	 im not sure what it is actually
[22:02:30] <cplusga>	 let me see
[22:03:14] <MaxSem>	 these crackheads broke PHP up into modules so it's totally possible to install PHP without a bunch of stuff that manual says is built in
[22:03:26] <cplusga>	 ayyy
[22:04:55] <cplusga>	 maybe its just a bad install. it's a "wordpress optimized VPS" from bluehost so i can imagine it was setup improperly
[22:05:25] <cplusga>	 or maybe the optimization = cutting out what WP doesnt need? seems insane
[22:06:51] <cplusga>	 iconv is in /usr/bin tho
[22:07:16] <Reedy>	 php still needs bindings
[22:07:52] <cplusga>	 it was built with --with-iconv and --with-iconv=shared
[22:08:01] <cplusga>	 says phpinfo :<
[22:08:14] <cplusga>	 eh thanks guys
[22:08:23] <cplusga>	 ill just try to beg for root and reinstall php
[22:10:07] <cplusga>	 im just going to comment out all lines that call iconv in your scripts ;)
[22:10:35] <cplusga>	 wish me luck
[22:10:36] <cplusga>	 adios
[22:11:30] <MaxSem>	 cplusga, try `composer install symfony/polyfill-iconv`
[22:11:40] <cplusga>	 i will
[22:12:24] <MaxSem>	 with iconv commented out, I'm afraid there will not be much left of MW
[22:12:37] <cplusga>	 i was just kiddin
[22:13:08] <cplusga>	 The requested PHP extension ext-iconv * is missing from your system. Install or enable PHP's iconv extension.
[22:15:21] <cplusga>	 iconv isnt in php -m actually