[02:39:15] Evening all. I need some help. Apparently I can't edit my Mediawiki:Common.css or anything that starts with MediaWiki. If I go to those pages, it treats me as if I'm logged out. [02:39:24] I get a login button at the top that doesn't work. [03:14:14] Any pointers on strategy for migrating a wiki from Turnkey/Debian7 appliance to Ubuntu 16.04? [09:19:06] hi everyone [12:30:23] HELLO [12:30:28] oops caps sorry [12:31:41] does anyone know what bit of code generates the section of all pages? [12:31:54] I want to insert a custom tag [12:33:02] I thought it would be in the skinTemplate but that only seems to generate everything after [12:47:45] nevermind, found it [12:47:56] it's in includes/OutputPage.php [12:48:21] in retrospect, that should be hideously obvious [13:33:14] Hey! In revision histories, there is that standard formatting of revisions. (E.g., (cur | prev) 08:13, 7 June 2017 TheD_J (talk | contribs) m . . (6,563 bytes) (+11) . . […]" [13:34:16] I want to include this formatting in a page – is there a way to do that automatically using something like a template or so? [13:34:49] like {{revision|784249800}} or so [13:58:20] Hello [13:58:55] Why MediaWiki does not documentation ? [14:01:27] !admin [14:01:28] To recreate the admin user, run "php maintenance/createAndPromote.php" on the command line. [14:01:28] Why does Media Wiki run out of documentation? [14:02:33] FNDA: in what way? [14:06:37] Betacommand: [14:06:38] It is complicated for small wikis to update MW without documentation. [14:06:46] :/ [14:07:41] FNDA: documentation and instructions exist for upgrading [14:07:49] FNDA: what is your current mediawiki version? [14:09:38] !dump [14:09:39] For information on how to get dumps from Wikimedia Wikis, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps . For a how-to on importing dumps, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps . [14:10:03] Betacommand: The MW version is : 1.28.2 [14:10:38] FNDA: what are you wanting to upgrade to? [14:11:51] Hello liangent [14:11:53] Linedwell: [14:12:03] Linedwell: 16:10 FNDA: what are you wanting to upgrade to? [14:12:33] FNDA: ? [14:13:36] Betacommand: The last version [14:14:03] Everything that worked before and now requires to configure a backend [14:14:11] FNDA: if your wiki is on 1.28.2 you dont need to upgrade [14:14:36] i.e. the Math extension, that worked in almost "stand alone" and that requires now to configure a backend, no even described in documentation [14:14:44] Betacommand: It's Linedwell wikis [14:14:47] (the documentation just says "use a backend") [14:15:11] Linedwell: one sec, let me grab the docs [14:15:14] !e math [14:15:14] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:math [14:15:59] for information $wgMathFullRestbaseURL= 'https://api.formulasearchengine.com/'; doesn't work anymore, api.formlasearchengine is not working anymore [14:16:17] (and have been removed from Wikimedia wikis months ago) [14:18:24] and I have many others examples in mind [14:18:48] (CentralAuth documentation that suppose only "from scratch" installation but not "migrations") [14:19:23] Linedwell: have you seen https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Mathoid [14:20:03] if you read thru the math extension you will see that "A production wiki should use its own Mathoid server. Availability of https://api.formulasearchengine.com/ is not guaranteed." [14:20:18] Yes [14:20:40] and as the "own mathoid server" solution isn't described, we can't use Math anymore [14:20:49] Mathoid is installed and is working on the server [14:21:33] but cannot be directly accessed by Mediawiki that expects a specific configuration [14:21:56] to sumarize, it works through curl, but not through MW [14:22:24] we skipped this problem with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SimpleMathJax [14:22:31] Linedwell: if you click on the mathoid link you will get the instructions for setting up your own version [14:22:56] Not so "flexible" than Math but at least it does what it is supposed to [14:23:36] as I said, Mathoid is already installed and working on the server [14:23:56] Linedwell: odds are that there is just something that wasnt set correctly. I am not familiar with the math extension, but you might email the mailing list for troubleshoting help [14:24:33] the problem in the Mathoid doc is for example this line: [14:24:34] vi config.yaml # configure as needed [14:25:06] "as needed" is the only indication :) [14:26:07] My colleagues and I spent hours trying to make Mathoid and Maths work together, then we resigned and switched to a "built in" extension [14:26:14] Linedwell: if you can access mathoid from curl but not mediawiki, odds are there is a mediawiki setting that is either missing or not set correctly [14:26:51] or more likely the config.yaml file [14:28:55] Linedwell: email the mailing list, odds are they can give you some more ideas on what isnt working right. Most of mediawiki's code is fairly well documented. [14:29:52] the code is, but "prerequisites" aren't (for example, Maths require a well configured RESTBASE but documentations aren't enough complete on mediawikiwiki [14:30:14] I will mail the ML the next time I'll face such a difficulty [14:30:31] thank you for your patience Betacommand [14:31:45] Linedwell: often they rely on the documentation of the third party for setting up third party software [14:32:36] ok [14:34:40] have a nice end of day [14:37:46] user_emailconfirm abf parameter does not exist on wmf wikis? [14:39:02] !localsettings [14:39:02] All configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can look in DefaultSettings.php. See , , , and [14:44:11] Steinsplitter: should be available [14:44:29] !e abusefilter [14:44:29] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:abusefilter [14:45:02] maybe it is not in the logs because of privacy https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/2113890 :/ [14:47:14] email wikitech-l they may be able to get you a little more insight [14:49:02] Steinsplitter: see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T22005 [14:49:18] rha [14:50:06] Betacommand: Thanks! [19:34:22] I trust: petan\|w!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/..* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/MZMcBride (2admin), .*@wikimedia/Krinkle (2admin), .*@fsf/.* (2trusted), .*@unaffiliated/valhallasw (2trusted), .*@wikinews/bawolff (2admin), .*@unaffiliated/jeroendedauw (2trusted), .*@MediaWiki/.* (2trusted), .*@unaffiliated/ciencia-al-poder (2trusted), [19:34:22] @trusted