[02:51:14] is that redwerks.com automatic URL shorterner configuration site down? [02:51:34] usually it worked for me while the instructions page usually didn't, as they gave different configuration [12:27:48] Hello! [12:28:08] I am trying to fetch the list of all the deleted revisions of a page [12:28:18] using this query: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=categories%7Cinfo%7Crevisions&list=abuselog|abusefilters|alldeletedrevisions&rvprop=user|content&format=jsonfm&revids=89320&meta=userinfo [12:28:37] It says permission denied, am I missing something? [13:18:26] armalcolite: Are you logged in as ann administrator? [13:18:48] nope, I am not logged in at all [13:19:16] Do I need a privileged account for that purpose ? [13:19:17] Deleted revisions are considered sensitive. [13:20:07] Actually, I am a research student working on "Detecting hate speech" and I need it for that purpose [13:20:37] I would appreciate any help! [13:20:53] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_access_levels#Researcher [13:20:55] Perhaps. [13:23:14] Looking at the list of current members in that group, it seems it's available to researchers working in Wikipedia [13:31:29] I think I might try to get admin approval for a research account. [13:34:01] I am not quite familiar with the Wikipedia workflow, if anyone can provide any leads on how to place this request then please inform me. [13:56:48] Is it possible to change configuration settings (such as $wgGroupPermissions) with an extension? (Not [13:56:59] * requiring the user to edit their LocalSettings.php) [13:58:20] HI I am wondering how to use the "move" function? I am locked out of an old account. Thanks! [14:02:43] armalcolite: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Index [14:03:16] please collaborate with other researchers, and familiarize yourself with practices and etiquette etc. [14:06:31] Thanks thedj! this solves my problem. 😄 [14:07:16] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Special_API_permissions [14:07:17] ^this is the best way to make a request [14:08:49] armalcolite: actually, that seems historical... [14:08:50] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:FAQ#How_do_I_get_special_API_privileges_for_my_research.3F [14:09:00] that seemt to describe it best. [14:09:56] Access to deleted contributions is highly unusual, due to the high level of trust required. [14:10:58] if you need it, then you need to cooperation of the WMF. And you will need to sign an NDA (if i remember correctly). It also requires that there are no alternate ways to achieve this, and that it hasn't been done before.. [14:11:22] please add your project to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Projects, so that others can give you feedback etc. [14:12:24] there is also a mailinglist you might wish to join: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l [14:15:54] I agree that the content in question is very sensitive. [14:17:20] yes, I read the terms and conditions and realized that I have to do the essential paperwork to get the data. [14:17:58] I am currently filling in details of the project, will share once done. [14:18:06] yoa: Not really. [14:18:15] yoa: There's a Configurator extension that might sort of work. [14:19:48] yoa: and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Configure [14:20:00] That. [14:21:40] yoa: there's been requests for a proper configuration database for many years. However, considering that WMF doesn't really need that (nor wants it), and no volunteer/company has offered to do the work, it's not very likely to be done any time soon. [14:22:05] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T388 [14:22:34] thedj: I think Wikimedia users want it. [14:22:43] But the use of Git/Gerrit has obviated a lot of the need, IMO. [14:23:04] depends on which wikimedia user you ask I guess :) [14:48:29] Esther: why would Wikimedia users care how configuration is managed? They don't have access to it eitehr way. [14:48:50] Or is the idea to give control over some option to local admins? [14:57:36] DanielK_WMDE: yes, some users have said that they should have the ability to change the configuration. [14:59:11] DanielK_WMDE: which I think would cause the ops people to say F. it, then you can do 24/7 support as well, i'll go work for Google/FB/etc :) [16:56:05] Looking to use this for a project... What are the system requirements for running this effectively? How much RAM/CPU does this use? How does the usage scale with use? [17:05:12] cwre: you can easily run MediaWiki on a vanilla LAMP stack on your laptop or a cheap VM with 2gig of ram. CPU usage for serving pages is minimal. For parsing pages it can get expensive, depending on size and complexity of the content. [17:05:32] Whether a minimal setup like that is sufficient for you greatly depends on how many readers and how many editory you have. [17:06:21] Wikimedia is serving a few hundred thousand requests per second from a few hundred dedicated boxes... [17:07:23] Mediawiki isn't very fast or lean. It's build for scaling, both vertically and horizontally. It's an oil tanker... not pretty, but efficient at scale. [17:12:25] But you can make it pretty :) [17:13:00] DanielK_WMDE: this is for a project I'm working with a professor to set up an online repository of cyber security case studies. [17:13:19] So we might need to scale later on but it's not super important right now. [17:13:30] hi everybody, any experts here? [17:13:32] Which is good. So I'll get a minimal container on DO. [17:13:36] if yes, please take a look at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Graphoid [17:13:41] topojson: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Graphoid/US-Counties-json [17:16:37] cwre: when you want to scale up, the first thing you'll want to do is add a web cache layer (squid/varnish). Then put the app server and the DB on separate VMs (or better a dedicated box for the DB, because virtualized I/O is slow). Then you want two app servers (and a load balancer) hittign the same database. Then have a read-only replica of the master database (on a separate box). [17:16:50] that's the typical growth pattern in my experience [17:16:54] anyway, gotta run [17:17:10] DanielK_WMDE: that's good to know. Thank you so much! [17:18:49] hm... if you have lots of reads but few edits, you probably want to split the db in master/replica before adding a second app server. [17:18:59] anyway, good luck :) [17:21:07] Thanks! :) [18:32:37] Hello! I am trying to log into a account but don't have access to. It's also a possibility the account email associated with the account no longer exists. [21:11:11] any answers to my topojson question? [21:26:37] How do I correct this error: [13-Jul-2017 09:51:44 UTC] PHP Fatal error: require(): Failed opening required '/home/tascsoft/public_html/wiki/CURA/includes/api/ApiQueryAllImages.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/tascsoft/public_html/wiki/CURA/includes/AutoLoader.php on line 1145 [21:30:37] Does the file exist? [21:30:41] Does the file casing match? [21:32:33] turns out its an old error [21:32:43] trying to look for the current error [21:48:01] hi there. I am having issues after an update of mediawiki. OpenID server does not work anymore. I tried different combinations, currently mediawiki 1.28.2 + openID 4.4.0 20140401 but when trying to authenticate, i am getting Fatal error: Cannot access private property Auth_OpenID_CheckIDRequest::$identity in /var/www/html/extensions/OpenID/SpecialOpenIDServer.body.php on line 321 [21:50:03] That sounds a very old version of the extension [21:54:19] Reedy: i have the same error with 4.5.0 20160312 [21:56:06] That sounds like an interop issue with the openid/php-openid library it uses too [21:56:14] Did you update that when you updated the extension? [21:59:38] the doc ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID#Download ) refers to php-openid trunk. I can try with a release instead [22:00:27] The docs say... [22:00:27] "openid/php-openid": "2.3.0" [22:00:34] Uh, the composer.json pinned version [22:00:47] Reedy: well done. 2.3.0 works [22:01:07] yeah cause the doc says "clone the latest" :) [22:04:57] well, that was the latest version at the time:P [22:18:28] MaxSem: indeed :) [22:21:03] /ms send DanielK_WMDE People like Wikimedia stewards should have the ability to change a logo without needing shell access. [22:21:51] gj Esther [22:22:08] Reedy: Just pasting in here for posterity. [22:22:10] Since Daniel left. [22:22:22] [10:48] Esther: why would Wikimedia users care how configuration is managed? They don't have access to it eitehr way. [22:22:25] Is silly. [22:39:45] Reedy: this got me a step further. Now i'm getting Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/html/extensions/OpenID/SpecialOpenIDServer.body.php on line 687 [22:39:53] well, I guess it depends on what you understand as "users" [22:40:54] I have debugged into the config files to determine why X thing failed / when it was changed [23:04:55] crap it looks like the openid url changed, that's what cause the previous error