[04:03:02] how do I enable popularpages? [04:05:13] or, rather, how do I get statistics about page visits in a wiki that is not ancient? [04:10:39] !e HitCounters [04:10:39] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HitCounters [04:11:25] or use some generic tracking thing (pwik or google analytics) [04:13:38] bawolff_, it says the extension is not possible to install on latest mediawiki [04:13:47] hi too :) [04:13:51] Hi [04:14:36] It will delete old data, but if its a new wiki your fine [04:15:14] if your upgrading from really ild mediawiki, you have to be careful or you will loose old hitcounter data [04:15:56] ok [04:16:17] And good luck because its my bed time :) [05:52:46] If I have a Title::newFromText function for an extension loaded on a wiki, how could I make the page Title::newFromText( 'Test') be loaded from another wiki (where the extension is also loaded)? [10:58:42] hey [14:38:26] hi there [14:38:49] Basnon: hi! [14:38:52] I have a CV for a minster [14:39:16] I would like to publish it wiki [14:39:52] I don't know how to create a page [14:40:34] i can send it you in order to publish it ASAP [14:40:48] On what wiki do you want to publish it? [14:40:57] Wikipedia? [14:40:57] is't clear ? [14:41:04] yes [14:41:32] This is not a channel for discussing Wikipedia - you should go to #wikipedia . [14:41:51] where can i find it ? [14:42:08] could you please help me [14:42:18] However you got to this channel (#mediawiki), do the same thing, but with #wikipedia . [14:42:47] thank you so much [16:01:13] RainbowSprinkles: What would we need to get some new skins added to the mw tarball? [18:45:43] Hi, I am new. Are mwdumper or xml2sql compatible with mediawiki version 1.27? [18:47:42] Help? I followed the tutorial, and imported the tables.sql to the mysql db, but mwdumper does not put in the mediawiki xml data, and xml2sql neither. I even ned the mysql configuration file to big data :p [18:48:31] probably not then [18:48:35] pressure679: I don't think those are supported on modern mw [18:48:46] use importDump.php maintainnce script [18:48:51] there is an importDump.php maintenance script which should be capable of processing xml dumps [18:49:15] as that ships with mediawiki, it is always "up-to-date" with whatever version of mw you have installed [18:49:42] I see, great, I got it. [18:52:03] importDump is allegedly slower than mwdumper in its days of glory though [19:04:40] Significantly, because importDump.php actually parses each page [20:52:45] trying to run CirrusSearch (+ElasticSearch 2.4.6) on mw REL1_28 and update.php complains that it can't find class SearchIndexField [20:52:57] I can't find it either [20:53:57] but the code references the class: 'use SearchIndexField' [20:54:10] so what am I missing? [20:54:15] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ECIR/browse/master/;916e1c32fe0251e8a3cae55aa1965256064b3378?grep=use+SearchIndexField [21:33:54] matt_flaschen: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/370946/ [21:37:46] Are there any WYSIWYG editors that any of you recommend for MediaWiki? [21:38:44] I've tried using VisualEditor, but it seems like a hassle to get it working, and I'm not sure if the "WYSIWYG" extension is still up-to-date. [21:38:58] VisualEditor is the best of the bunch by a long measure [21:39:48] Why does it need parsoid and all the stuff? [21:40:01] I know its annoying [21:46:11] Person1234: because wikitext isn't really designed to support wysiwg [21:47:21] Does VisualEditor actually add anything, or does it just make the editing process flow a bit better to people? [21:48:30] Person1234, try it yourself e.g. on WIkipedia [21:50:08] Person1234, it has the same functionality (because the canonical content is still stored in wikitext for now), but a much nicer and more powerful UI. [21:50:23] Oh nice. Didn't know, first time using a wiki, it's for a team project that I am hoping to bring forth. [21:50:59] as long as you start a wiki with VE it's great [21:57:21] I hope I don't upset anyone, but how does MediaWiki compare to DokuWiki (just in your experiences or what you've heard). [22:00:34] Person1234: i think it's more featureful but also more complicated. compared to other wiki software, viewing the changes and histories of pages is very good. [22:22:37] Sadly, I don't think we have all that many people familar with other wiki engines. Probably a bad thing, its good to learn from others [22:24:07] Person1234: depends what you're trying to do. I find dokuwiki great for low-volume wikis (that is, low volume of simultaneous visitors, so like a small team environment) [22:24:21] it's super easy to set up and keep up-to-date compared to mediawiki, and you don't need to mess around with databases [22:25:34] however, dokuwiki's markup is pretty simplistic in what it allows you to do. Plugins go a long way in filling in holes, but it pales in comparison to the flexibility that mediawiki markup affords as far as precise control over layout and re-use of content is concerned [22:25:52] Skizzerz, is there a way to have users? I mean, that sounds great, because this wiki will only be serving like 20 people total (not simultaneously). [22:26:07] what do you mean by "have users"? [22:26:26] both dokuwiki and mediawiki support having user accounts, including fine-grained permissions as to who is allowed to do what on their account [22:26:45] Well, this wiki is going to be private. I need user authentication, to make sure no one views it if they are not part of the team. [22:26:56] both wiki software can do that [22:27:44] in dokuwiki it'd be in the admin panel; in mediawiki you'd either select "private wiki" (or something like that) in the installer, or follow the guide at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Simple_private_wiki [22:28:44] both wikis also have plugins/extensions that allow you to integrate with existing accounts (typically LDAP) [22:30:45] note that if WYSIWYG is a requirement, I have no experience using any of dokuwiki's wysiwyg editors. VisualEditor is a royal pain to set up, but it works pretty well (it is enabled on Wikipedia, so you can trial it there -- for example click edit page visually at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox [22:31:25] trying to run CirrusSearch (+ElasticSearch 2.4.6) on mw REL1_28 and update.php complains that it can't find class SearchIndexField [22:31:46] SearchIndexField is a dynamically generated class... should update "see"it? [22:50:14] I have a question--when a Wiki page in MediaWiki is renamed, does it correct all the internal links? [22:50:24] No [22:51:50] Are there any extensions that do that? [22:58:53] Person1234: you don't need to correct the internal links, a redirect will be left behind [23:08:06] Are there any extensions that will allow me to add banners to pages. Also, are there any that will allow you to put the banner in the middle (vertically) of the page content? [23:08:38] you can just make banners in wiki markup and insert them into pages that way [23:08:42] a template will likely help with this [23:08:48] is that not sufficient? [23:09:57] Skizzerz, templates... Cool, I will have to check it out! [23:10:19] templates are a way to achieve re-use of markup/text [23:10:45] so you can make the code that defines the banner in one place, say Template:Banner, and other pages can include it via placing {{banner}} in the appropriate spot [23:10:58] they can get far more complex as well, as you can pass in parameters [23:11:11] see the help documentation for more info :) [23:33:37] I was thinking of making a cool template that would make a section of a page look like it was from the Linux commandline (black background, white text). I can only think of doing is '

 sample code

'. [23:34:30] So, I would have to make two templates--one that starts the "

" tag and one that ends it.
[23:34:49] 	 Is there a different way of doing this?
[23:37:05] 	 use parameters
[23:37:06] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates#Parameters
[23:52:32] 	 legoktm, but I may have to use symbols that may interfere with that.