[01:33:04] <jiblet>	 I have a mediawiki instance that seems to have no administrative user. When I go to Special:ListUsers none of them have admin or beurcrat permissions
[01:33:20] <jiblet>	 cant find anyone with similar issues via google, any ideas? 
[01:41:15] <OH->	 jiblet, if you need an admin or bureaucrat you can use this maintenance script: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CreateAndPromote.php
[01:56:01] <jiblet>	 OH-: wow im so suprised at how hard that was to find thanks
[01:56:20] <OH->	 cheers
[03:43:20] <Volund>	 So guys, I'm trying to figure out what's involved in setting up a server so that Mediawiki can actually send out password resets and stuff.
[03:43:35] <Volund>	 Dunno what is involved in that or where to start.
[04:12:52] <Esther>	 Oh, NotASpy is gone.
[07:26:28] <obayda1757>	 dear freiends,  i have transfer my mediawiki site from local server to real one. Using cPanel I have configure the file "localsettings.php" after creatomg database with access. but my configuration my have some problem so its not working. site: www.databankbd.com/dbwiki
[07:28:19] <obayda1757>	 my configuration (localsettings.php) are as follows: $wgScriptPath = "/dbwiki"; $wgServer = "http://databankbd.com";  $wgEmergencyContact = "apache@localhost"; $wgPasswordSender = "apache@localhost";  $wgDBtype = "mysql"; $wgDBserver = "localhost"; $wgDBname = "databank_bddb1"; $wgDBuser = "databank_administrator"; $wgDBpassword = "******";  # MySQL specific settings $wgDBprefix = "databank_bddb1";
[08:52:14] <Jayjay_>	 This is the first time  I've done this but cool
[15:14:03] <NoobieDoo>	 Hi guys hoping someone can help please
[15:14:55] <NoobieDoo>	 Sorry if this is going to sound thick, but Ive spend hours trying to read the docs about upgrading mediawiki and am still unsure how best to proceed.
[15:15:15] <NoobieDoo>	  Current version is 1.22.6 using Cavenidishmw skin
[15:15:59] <NoobieDoo>	 Ive backed up files and db
[15:16:39] <NoobieDoo>	 but does anyone know if theres going to be any foreseen probs doing such a jump.
[15:16:51] <bawolff>	 Should not be any problems for that
[15:17:08] <bawolff>	 You really only have to worry if transitioning from pre 1.5
[15:17:33] <NoobieDoo>	 So I should just be able to overwrite the existing files?
[15:17:58] <bawolff>	 Its better to extract in a different directory
[15:18:07] <bawolff>	 and copy over LocalSettings.php, extensions and images
[15:18:25] <NoobieDoo>	 Ive been pouring over the update thingies and couldnt see anything that may cause a problem.
[15:18:43] <NoobieDoo>	 aside from I use Enkoder as an extension
[15:18:44] <bawolff>	 If you just directly overwrite files, and the new version no longer has a file, then the overwrite won't replace that file, which can cause problems
[15:19:20] <bawolff>	 An upgrade from 1.22.6 should be very painless. Only possible problems you might encounter is if some of your extensions aren't compatible
[15:20:00] <bawolff>	 If you do run into any problems, the people at this channel should be able to help
[15:20:24] <Reedy>	 Make sure you upgrade your extensions too
[15:20:28] <NoobieDoo>	 So upload files (via ftp) to a new folder say called wiki2
[15:22:08] <NoobieDoo>	 then copy LocalSettings.php etc to folder 2?
[15:22:21] <NoobieDoo>	 [feeling dumb]
[15:22:47] <Reedy>	 And your uploads
[15:23:54] <NoobieDoo>	 ok so once those are in wiki2 folder, then what?
[15:24:30] <NoobieDoo>	 pressemably I should be able to test wiki by using url  mydomain/wiki2?
[15:25:00] <Reedy>	 Probably
[15:25:06] <Reedy>	 You need to run update.php
[15:25:07] <Reedy>	 !update
[15:25:07] <wm-bot>	 update.php is a script that updates the database tables. You usually need to run it after upgrading MediaWiki or installing certain extensions. For details, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script>
[15:25:11] <Reedy>	 !upgrade
[15:25:11] <wm-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[15:26:06] <NoobieDoo>	 ok I run update via wiki2?
[15:26:20] <NoobieDoo>	 will that knacker anything in my db?
[15:28:35] <bawolff>	 update.php will change the db, it shouldn't delete anything
[15:28:46] <bawolff>	 it is good practise to keep a backup just in case
[15:30:00] <bawolff>	 But I have never heard of anyone actually needing a backup due to update.php screwing things up
[15:30:04] <NoobieDoo>	 cheers bawolff.  Just done an sql backup.  
[15:30:43] <NoobieDoo>	 Will check see if anyupdates for any of the extensions before I go further.   I think there was only Enkoder I was concerned about 
[15:31:07] <Reedy>	 You should update them all to use the same branched version if the branches exist
[15:32:24] <NoobieDoo>	 ok cheers guys..  I'll go silent & lurk whilst I check extensions and upload to new folder
[16:16:36] <Volund>	 So guys
[16:16:41] <Volund>	 here's an oddball question for thee.
[16:17:46] <Volund>	 Is this possible? Can I install mediawiki files in one central location, and then for each vhost on an NGINX server give it its own little space/instance with a LocalSettings.php, images folder, extensions, etc? So there's only ever one 'install' of mediawiki, and a bunch of different wikis running off of it?
[16:18:28] <bawolff_>	 Volund: yeah
[16:18:40] <Volund>	 heck yeah that's awesome.
[16:18:46] <bawolff_>	 although typically people centralize extensions as well
[16:18:56] <Volund>	 yeah that'd... definitely help my case
[16:18:59] <bawolff_>	 !wikifarm
[16:19:00] <wm-bot>	 To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family> If you run a farm or want to, join the mailing list: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikifarm>
[16:19:25] <bawolff_>	 the docs arent great though, they ramble
[16:19:42] <Volund>	 S'long as it's possible, I'll figure it out. :D
[17:22:57] <NoobieDoo>	 OK think (hope) that I'm ready to roll with the install:-
[17:23:04] <NoobieDoo>	 sorry upgrade
[17:23:16] <NoobieDoo>	 Ive uploaded /images
[17:24:09] <NoobieDoo>	 updated the extensions, but removed Obfuscator enkoder in the localsettings.php as it doesnt appear to be supported now
[17:24:28] <NoobieDoo>	 Cant see an uploads folder in the old wiki directory
[17:25:25] <NoobieDoo>	 Ive had to change a few things in localsettings.php as I was getting some php errors to do with
[17:25:29] <NoobieDoo>	 #require_once( "$IP/extensions/UserMerge/UserMerge.php" );
[17:25:53] <NoobieDoo>	 so those have now been changed to wfLoadExtension( 'UserMerge' );
[17:26:59] <NoobieDoo>	 If I browse to the new wiki2 folder I get the following error "MediaWiki internal error.  Original exception: [46b09fa9da0b7c44a9a8d265] 2017-08-12 17:26:19: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"
[17:27:15] <NoobieDoo>	 which I think is ok as Ive not yet run the installer
[17:28:18] <NoobieDoo>	 If I go to http://www.domain/wiki2/mw-config/......  I now see the media wiki installation thingy for 1.29.0
[17:29:04] <NoobieDoo>	 So I take it that means Im ready to go?
[17:37:18] <NoobieDoo>	 I'm stalling on running the install atm..   Not sure what will happen to the live wiki.    Will running the installer on /wiki2 break the database for http://wiki.domain?
[17:41:20] <NoobieDoo>	 Is anyone able to answer please?
[17:41:40] <Reedy>	 You shouldn't need to run install...
[17:42:30] <NoobieDoo>	 If I navigate to the folder I see:-
[17:42:44] <bawolff>	 Is your LocalSettings.php present?
[17:42:56] <NoobieDoo>	 MediaWiki internal error.  Original exception: [46b09fa9da0b7c44a9a8d265] 2017-08-12 17:26:19: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"  Exception caught inside exception handler.  Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; and $wgShowDBErrorBacktrace = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information
[17:43:31] <bawolff>	 oh ok, so that's fine
[17:43:45] <bawolff>	 NoobieDoo: Run the maintaince script update.php
[17:43:51] <NoobieDoo>	 Yes local settings is there.
[17:44:04] <bawolff>	 NoobieDoo: do you have command line access?
[17:44:18] <NoobieDoo>	 No..  doing via the web access page
[17:44:31] <bawolff>	 ok, navigate to the mw-config directory
[17:44:38] <NoobieDoo>	 I can see domain/wiki2/mw-config/
[17:44:58] <bawolff>	 So what happens when you go there with your web browser?
[17:45:12] <NoobieDoo>	 on that page it shows MediaWiki 1.29.0 installation
[17:45:47] <bawolff>	 It should ask you for an upgrade key
[17:46:13] <Reedy>	 Hmm.. Does 1.22 have the upgrade key in place?
[17:46:22] <NoobieDoo>	 yes I think it did
[17:46:43] <bawolff>	 If it doesn't you'll get instructions on how to ad
[17:46:44] <Reedy>	 $wgUpgradeKey
[17:46:45] <bawolff>	 d
[17:46:54] <Reedy>	 1.17
[17:47:03] <bawolff>	 NoobieDoo: Its on the second page (After clicking through the language questions)
[17:47:44] <NoobieDoo>	 ah right. got confused cause it said Installation
[17:48:01] <bawolff>	 Yeah, I can understand that, its slightly confusing
[17:48:03] <NoobieDoo>	 A LocalSettings.php file has been detected. To upgrade this installation, please enter the value of $wgUpgradeKey in the box below. You will find it in LocalSettings.php. 
[17:49:44] <NoobieDoo>	 PHP 5.5.25 is installed. Warning: Could not find APCu, XCache or WinCache.  Object caching is not enabled. 
[17:50:11] <NoobieDoo>	 Warning: The intl PECL extension is not available to handle Unicode normalisation, falling back to slow pure-PHP implementation.
[17:50:53] <NoobieDoo>	 The environment has been checked. You can install MediaWiki. :)
[17:51:48] <NoobieDoo>	 OK as soon as I run that...  I take it that it will break the live site if it does any DB changes?
[17:52:20] <bagoat>	 NoobieDoo: Not really
[17:52:27] <bagoat>	 most upgrades don't break back compat
[17:52:41] <NoobieDoo>	 OK then... here goes.   Wish me luck
[17:52:46] <bagoat>	 some do though, I don't know off the top of my head if 1.22 -> 1.29 would actually break it
[17:53:18] <NoobieDoo>	 There are MediaWiki tables in this database. To upgrade them to MediaWiki 1.29.0, click Continue.
[17:54:05] <NoobieDoo>	 Whoops lol
[17:54:24] <NoobieDoo>	 http://wiki.kitz.co.uk/index.php/Main_Page  :(
[17:55:50] <NoobieDoo>	 cant get anything at /wiki2/
[18:00:30] <NoobieDoo>	 old wiki now gives "A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software."
[18:05:21] <NoobieDoo>	 OK what if I change the old wiki directory to wiki_old and make /wiki2/  into wiki?
[18:06:45] <NoobieDoo>	 wb bawolff
[18:07:23] <NoobieDoo>	 Im clutching at straws: -    <NoobieDoo> OK what if I change the old wiki directory to wiki_old and make /wiki2/  into wiki?
[18:07:51] <NoobieDoo>	 Both now seem broken :'(
[18:09:20] <NoobieDoo>	 OK gonna try it anyways since both are b0rked 
[18:09:37] <bagoat>	 NoobieDoo:  yeah, rename the directories,
[18:11:32] <NoobieDoo>	 Well thats done something :)
[18:11:47] <NoobieDoo>	 I now have a wiki again :)
[18:11:56] <NoobieDoo>	 http://wiki.kitz.co.uk/index.php/Main_Page
[18:12:57] <Reedy>	 Oh, I just noticed what your website actually is NoobieDoo
[18:13:04] <Reedy>	 <3 Kitz
[18:13:22] <NoobieDoo>	 o0ooo   you do?
[18:13:27] <Reedy>	 Yeah
[18:13:32] <Reedy>	 I'm English
[18:13:34] <NoobieDoo>	 :blush:
[18:13:40] <Reedy>	 so... I'm used to dealing with BT stuff
[18:13:43] <Reedy>	 Cabinet photos etc
[18:13:56] <NoobieDoo>	 haha yep :D
[18:13:59] <Reedy>	 HG612 unlocking
[18:14:01] <Reedy>	 etc :)
[18:14:08] <Reedy>	 http://wiki.kitz.co.uk/index.php/Main_Page says DB error for me though
[18:14:20] <NoobieDoo>	 lol yep..   Im crap at mediawiki though :(
[18:14:27] <Reedy>	 working now
[18:15:23] <Reedy>	 What else do you still need to do?
[18:15:43] <NoobieDoo>	 I think (hope) thats it
[18:16:06] <NoobieDoo>	 There's a couple of extensions Ive disabled
[18:16:17] <Reedy>	 Shouldn't be too hard to get them re-enabled
[18:16:57] <NoobieDoo>	 nope.   
[18:17:26] <NoobieDoo>	 Apart from just having heart failure when the db failed, I think I can breathe again now
[18:18:00] <bagoat>	 Sorry, I probably should have told you to rename the directory from the get-go
[18:18:35] <NoobieDoo>	 nps.. we got there in the end :)
[18:19:09] <NoobieDoo>	 Thank you for the hand-holding
[18:31:31] <NoobieDoo>	 okay..  Think everything is working fine.  Extensions back in place bar one which is no longer compatible.   
[18:32:27] <NoobieDoo>	 Thanks ever so much for your help. esp bagoat & reedy
[18:32:37] <bagoat>	 Happy to help
[18:32:42] <Reedy>	 Which extension OOI?
[18:33:30] <NoobieDoo>	 Obfuscator enkoder
[18:33:41] <Reedy>	 wassat?
[18:34:01] <Reedy>	 Got a link to the source code?
[18:34:05] <Reedy>	 We can probably fix it up
[18:34:08] <NoobieDoo>	 its supposed to hide email addresses
[18:34:20] <NoobieDoo>	 I think it said on the wiki its no longer supported
[18:34:41] <NoobieDoo>	 extensions/enkoder-mw.php
[18:34:52] <Reedy>	 Is it just one PHP file?
[18:35:09] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Enkoder
[18:35:26] <Reedy>	 http://ninecoldwinters.com/code/enkoder-mediawiki/
[18:35:28] <Reedy>	 no works
[18:36:03] <Reedy>	 NoobieDoo: Want me to take a look at it?
[18:36:21] <NoobieDoo>	 its 2 php files
[18:36:53] <NoobieDoo>	 enkoder.php & enkoder-mw.php
[18:37:28] <NoobieDoo>	 Do I need it?
[18:37:51] <Reedy>	 Are you actually using it?
[18:37:52] <NoobieDoo>	 I originally installed it about 10yrs ago to protect email addresses
[18:38:02] <Reedy>	 heh
[18:38:19] <NoobieDoo>	 The wiki is only editable by content team members
[18:38:34] <Reedy>	 Would need to search if you've got enkodemail anywhere in text
[18:38:48] <NoobieDoo>	 I think I read somewhere at the time it was one of the recommended extensions which is why I installed it way back then
[18:38:54] <Reedy>	 heh
[18:41:07] <NoobieDoo>	 Do I need anything like that these days?   Media wiki has got a lot more included now than since I very first installed it.   Even used to have to install the Wikieditor as an extension
[18:42:29] <Reedy>	 Do you list email addresses on pages?
[18:45:20] <NoobieDoo>	 No
[18:48:39] <Reedy>	 Wouldn't bother with it then
[18:48:41] <NoobieDoo>	 Ive just checked and even logged in you cant see others email addresses.    I'm sure I only installed it because it was on the recommended list
[18:51:44] <NoobieDoo>	 Just checked my notes, it looks like I used some other obfuscator until that was also deprecated.   I see no need for it now
[18:57:54] <NoobieDoo>	 Anyways...  I'm outa here now...  there's a bottle with my name on waiting.
[18:58:18] <NoobieDoo>	 Have a good evening you guys and thanks again :)
[20:34:26] <petan>	 !goat
[20:34:48] <petan>	 !goat is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/2926/
[20:34:48] <goat-bot>	 Key was added