[00:38:11] Skizzerz: Waiting 15 minutes for link updates is annoying. [00:38:19] Like as a user, I want much faster. [00:41:39] And running every minute doesn't seem too terrible with those arguments specifying maxtime and maxjobs, assuming they work. :-) [02:34:39] would there be anyway to pinpoint what would randomly cause high CPU and DB connections if apache error logs don't show any discernible reason. DPL is suspect but how would I prove that and be proactive in preventing it? [02:39:09] c: Log slow MySQL queries? [02:39:44] I'd probably blame DPL too though. We once found it doing a file sort on the page table on some random page that got crawled by Google [02:41:22] legoktm: I tried that once, but we use Amazon's RDS for our database and they are all about the GUI and the way they handle logs is sort of odd. It's supposed to rotate every hour and purge every 24 hours but when this happened it filled up the storage space to capacity. [02:42:18] :/ [02:43:11] You could probably add some hack to MW to log the page name if the request takes too long [02:43:19] or maybe apache can do that? [02:45:18] maybe. not sure how. rebooting the database effectively "fixes" the issue...but that's more of a bandaid than a fix [02:48:39] c: Maybe try using New Relic for logging? I have effectively used it to find bad DPL queries in the past. [02:49:04] I believe there is a free version available. [02:50:59] Trela: how would I integrate that with RDS though? their databases are all managed through the AWS console and not via the web server [02:51:54] You don't! New Relic installs as a PHP module. It logs all web requests to its service tracing the entire request including database, Memcache, Redis, and external services. [03:19:10] Trela: it's not very smart. npi says bin/node doesn't exist when it clearly does [03:20:06] Oh, I just manually installed the PHP module in my case. [05:51:14] If i see a theme i like that another wiki uses, is there any easy way to copy it for yourself? [14:53:02] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting at 3 pm UTC/5 pm CEST in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @addshore & @CFisch_WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [21:01:34] RFC meeting starting now in #wikimedia-office: Move most of MediaWiki within a /core folder [22:01:46] !xy [22:01:46] The XY problem is asking about your attempted *solution* rather than your *actual problem*. http://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/66378 [22:55:57] wondering if anyone is familiar with a "fatal error" created with the install of the previous 1.29.0 #mediawiki [22:56:05] I've inherited my MediaWiki from a former web dev genuis and I'm trying to determine if my error is a result of needing 1.29.1 or totally separate [23:11:57] ?