[04:10:21] <happyfeet>	 Hi guys. I'm having a problem with getting mediawiki to send emails with my host Dreamhost.
[04:11:41] <happyfeet>	 https://pastebin.com/XZs7R9Pf
[04:12:16] <happyfeet>	 I changed the server address, but everything else is the same. Email username is wikiadmin
[04:13:26] <happyfeet>	 generates the error [d90106f2] /wiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&action=submitlogin&type=signup&returnto=Main+Page MWException from line 291 of /home/server/server.com/wiki/includes/mail/UserMailer.php: PEAR mail package is not installed
[04:16:50] <happyfeet>	 so should I just forego all this shit andgo back to using PHP mail?
[04:17:09] <guanaco>	 Is PEAR installed and working properly? http://pear.php.net/manual/en/installation.checking.php
[04:17:42] <happyfeet>	 I just found out its not on the server, I made a bad assumption
[04:18:11] <happyfeet>	 https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/214392988-How-do-I-install-PEAR-
[04:18:25] <happyfeet>	 but also, they reccomend using PHPMailer
[04:18:35] <happyfeet>	 is there a disadvantage to PHPMailer?
[04:19:07] <guanaco>	 I couldn't say
[04:19:54] <happyfeet>	 whatever then. Everything else with mediawiki has been great. It's my first time running a wiki
[04:20:34] <happyfeet>	 the documentation took me from being a fairly novice website owner to having a few hundred pages
[04:21:20] <happyfeet>	 Now I'm just starting to get paranoid about security
[04:21:25] <guanaco>	 I haven't set up a mediawiki installation since 2007, but I remember it being very straightforward
[04:23:00] <guanaco>	 Are your security concerns about improper access to a private wiki, or someone using the wiki to affect the server?
[04:23:15] <happyfeet>	 both
[04:23:29] <happyfeet>	 my wiki involves pizzagate
[04:24:39] <happyfeet>	 I'd like to have some way to allow public downloads and backups of the whole wiki without compromising anything.
[04:25:15] <guanaco>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:DumpBackup.php
[04:26:07] <happyfeet>	 well looks like they really did think of everything
[04:26:24] <guanaco>	 Yeah, this is published for wikipedia
[04:27:36] <guanaco>	 which generally is why mediawiki is secure - wikipedia gets all kinds of lunatics and trolls who've tried almost everything over the years
[04:31:59] <legoktm>	 happyfeet: what version of MediaWiki are you using?
[04:32:16] <legoktm>	 modern versions should come with the PEAR mail package bundled...
[04:32:52] <legoktm>	 if the normal PHP mail() works then it should be fine
[16:27:29] <Cono_>	 HI
[16:27:36] <Cono_>	 need help
[16:29:27] <Cono_>	 hi?
[16:37:07] <andre__>	 !ask | Cono_
[16:37:08] <wm-bot>	 Cono_: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :)
[16:53:17] <nplus>	 Hi, I'm working on setting up a wiki and all seems good except for caching.. I'm runing nginx + php5. I installed php5-apcu prior to installing and the installer acknowledged that APC was present. However when I have caching set to CACHE_ACCEL, I have no sessions and am not sure if caching is working at all
[17:16:36] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nplus: session handling is configured separatly. i think per default it uses php
[17:16:49] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ...it uses php's standard mechanism
[17:17:43] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nplus: in some cases, you need to manually tell php to reserve space for custom objects in the byte code cache. perhaps that's the issue you are running into
[17:28:29] <nplus>	 When I set $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_NONE, sessions started to work
[17:29:50] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nplus: use $wgSessionCacheType for separate control
[17:30:06] <DanielK_WMDE>	 didn't know it would fall back to "anything". probably not a good  idea.
[17:30:47] <DanielK_WMDE>	 You probably want $wgParserCacheType = CACHE_DB. And $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL.
[17:31:04] <DanielK_WMDE>	 make sure your apc cache actually has room for your custom data, though
[17:59:27] <nplus>	 DanielK_WMDE: hmm ok thanks I'll give that a whirl