[00:41:58] <thisname>	 Hey guys!  I got a question that has stumped me all day.  I have installed MediaWiki widgets installed, specifically Widget:iframe
[00:42:39] <thisname>	 I want to add some more parameters.  That's the easy part.   I want to check to see if they are empty and if so, do nothing.
[00:43:29] <thisname>	 Nothing I've done all day has worked.  {{#tag:if| doesn't work, nor {{#if:
[00:43:46] <thisname>	 trying to use smarty doesn't work either
[00:43:54] <thisname>	 Would writing a Lua module do the trick?
[00:50:13] <Reedy>	 isn't it {{#if:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Parser_functions_in_templates
[00:50:15] <Reedy>	 ffs
[00:50:15] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Parser_functions_in_templates
[00:50:48] <thisname>	 Yes, i looked at that page but when I try it doesn't parse
[00:51:03] <Reedy>	 {{{foo|}} is probably some variant of what you're looking for
[00:51:25] <thisname>	 <iframe src="https://www.example.com" frameborder="0" width="100%" height="auto"
[00:51:26] <thisname>	 Debug: {{#tag:if|{{{trackname}}}|yes|no}}
[00:51:26] <thisname>	 ></iframe>
[00:51:49] <thisname>	 if trackname is set, it's supposed to say yes not spit out the whole code
[00:52:28] <Reedy>	 {{#tag:if|{{{trackname|}}}|yes|no}}
[00:52:51] <thisname>	 ok hold on
[00:53:49] <Reedy>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Conditional_tables
[00:53:55] <Reedy>	  {{#if:{{{variable_foo|}}}
[00:53:55] <Reedy>	  |foo is set to '''{{{variable_foo}}}'''
[00:53:56] <Reedy>	  |foo is ''blank''}}
[00:54:16] <thisname>	 it just spit all of it out in the html output, no parsing
[00:54:31] <Reedy>	 Do you have parserfunctions installed?
[00:54:50] <thisname>	 I have 1.6.0
[00:58:48] <Reedy>	 bleught
[00:58:51] <Reedy>	 not | : first
[00:58:53] <Reedy>	 {{#tag:if:{{{trackname|}}}|yes|no}}
[00:59:57] <thisname>	 no difference
[01:00:27] <Reedy>	 {{#if:{{{trackname|}}}|yes|no}}
[01:00:43] <Reedy>	 https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:IRCHelpding
[01:00:48] <Reedy>	 https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestingHelpding
[01:04:18] <thisname>	 Now, if you put it inside a tag like <iframe src="google.com"   {{#tag:if:{{{trackname|}}}|yes|no}}  ></iframe> it won't work
[01:04:46] <Reedy>	 iframes suck
[01:04:50] <thisname>	 what if you put {{IRCHelpding|trackname=foobar}} instead and have it call a template?
[01:05:06] <thisname>	 they suck, i know lol
[01:05:51] <Reedy>	 It's possibly because the xml tags get eaten at some point
[01:05:58] <Reedy>	 Might need a includeonly/onlyinclude type thing
[01:06:55] <thisname>	 there's one around the iframe already?
[01:07:13] <thisname>	 see http://lactation.wiki/index.php?title=Widget:Iframe&action=edit
[01:08:04] <thisname>	 The idea is to add another parameter to that.  if it's not empty, spit out additional text that piwik can pick up
[01:10:02] <thisname>	 i started with this:
[01:10:08] <thisname>	 {{#if:{{{trackname}}}|
[01:10:09] <thisname>	 data-track-content data-content-name="<!--{$trackname|escape:'html'}-->" data-content-piece="<!--{$url|validate:url}-->"
[01:10:13] <thisname>	 but it's not parsing
[01:10:38] <thisname>	 |}} at the end
[01:34:13] <thisname>	 Reedy: any ideas? i'm stumped
[01:53:52] <thisname>	 Reedy: I just hard coded it for now.  It'll be a mandatory parameter.  Thanks for your help!
[05:50:26] <CitadelCore_>	 Anyone know if it's possible to grab the number of bytes changed in the last revision from a PageContentSaveComplete hook?
[05:50:35] <CitadelCore_>	 I can't seem to find a way.
[05:55:39] <legoktm>	 CitadelCore_: query the database for revision length and just subtract?
[06:01:45] <CitadelCore_>	 Alright, was hoping there was a direct property of one of the classes passed but I can cope with that. Thanks!
[07:20:43] <dupondje>	 Hi :) I'm testing out VisualEditor (which seems nice) :) But how can I add line breaks in the VisualEditor?
[11:49:00] <rammanoj_>	 can anyone say how actually documentation to mediawiki extnsions is generated?
[12:04:43] <andre__>	 rammanoj_: Depends.
[12:04:50] <andre__>	 Can you be more specific?
[12:07:09] <rammanoj_>	 yeah! for almost all the  extensions the documentation page is avialable through the link https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:"name of extension" and how it got generated ?
[12:07:36] <rammanoj_>	 How to edit such kind of documentations
[12:17:23] <andre__>	 rammanoj_, by manually writing it.
[12:17:40] <andre__>	 How to edit? By clicking "Edit" on that wiki page.
[14:27:56] <m-a-v>	 I have upgraded to a new mediawiki version. But now no images are rendered. Any idea?
[15:10:19] <bawolff>	 hexmode: You around?
[20:14:29] <simple>	 I've tried going from my 1.26.2 install right to 1.29, and when that didn't work, to 1.27.3.. but it just keeps crying about a bad magic word, or permission errors for any page... does 'protectionexpiry' ring any bells?
[20:18:19] <MaxSem>	 did you upgrade all the extensions?
[20:18:46] <simple>	 the core ones, or 3rd party?
[20:19:03] <simple>	 i guess you mean 3rd party
[20:20:07] <Skizzerz>	 all of them, core and third party (if you updated using the tarballs, the extensions shipped with core are already up-to-date)
[20:20:17] <simple>	 yeah, i updated via tarball
[20:20:36] <simple>	 so i have to try to figure out how to check the others i copied over for new versions...
[20:20:44] <Skizzerz>	 so ensure you update all of the other extensions
[20:20:50] <Skizzerz>	 and ensure you ran the update.php maintenance script
[20:20:57] <simple>	 yeah, did the update.php
[20:24:32] <simple>	 ok.. updated one, no change
[20:25:42] <Skizzerz>	 is your wiki public?
[20:26:20] <Skizzerz>	 if so, do you mind providing a link to it?
[20:26:43] <simple>	 it should be now
[20:26:48] <simple>	 http://idlerpg.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[20:27:48] <Skizzerz>	 ok, so an extension is probably defining that work somewhere
[20:27:51] <simple>	 when i remove protectionexpiry from includes/parser/CoreParserFunctions.php i just get permission errors for any page
[20:28:20] <Skizzerz>	 oh that is a core
[20:28:24] <simple>	 the protectionexpiry function is also defined in that file
[20:28:48] <Skizzerz>	 did you extract the new tarball on top of the old files?
[20:28:54] <simple>	 all my extensions are updated
[20:29:00] <simple>	 nope, new tarball is fresh
[20:29:05] <Skizzerz>	 k
[20:29:11] <simple>	 i only copied over my LocalSettings, and extensions
[20:29:24] <Skizzerz>	 may want to copy over images too ;)
[20:29:38] <simple>	 i don't have any
[20:29:45] <simple>	 and now downloads either
[20:29:48] <Skizzerz>	 anyway, please do not edit the core files if you can avoid it
[20:29:51] <simple>	 s/now/no/
[20:30:37] <Skizzerz>	 can you revert any changes to made to CoreParserFunctions?
[20:31:07] <simple>	 it snuck in at this commit: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/rMWa042808b919f3c41d00061e78281d35b897c9650
[20:31:49] <Skizzerz>	 yes, but that isn't an issue
[20:32:01] <Skizzerz>	 in that I literally installed a 1.29 tarball yesterday and am not having any issues
[20:32:24] <simple>	 well, it's having a problem with my 1.26.2 install/LocalSettings
[20:32:28] <Skizzerz>	 most likely
[20:32:43] <Skizzerz>	 can you publish your LocalSettings somewhere? Remove passwords, secret keys, etc. first
[20:33:04] <Skizzerz>	 (where somewhere = a pastebin service such as gist)
[20:33:17] <simple>	 i'm at least 60% certain that's where the problem will be, since it's been around since 1.0 or something
[20:33:52] <IDrinkMilk>	 this might not be the place, but does anyone have experience setting up a mediawiki instance with the LDAPAuthentication plugin using the `$wgLDAPRequiredGroups` setting? i'm trying to point this to a LDAP group in my organization, and when i configure this setting to point to my LDAP group it crashes mediawiki and gives 500 errors
[20:34:11] <MaxSem>	 simple, lol - first elease was 1.1 :P
[20:35:32] <simple>	 well, super old, maybe 1.7 or something
[20:35:58] <simple>	 Skizzerz: https://dpaste.de/ecYc
[20:37:36] <simple>	 maybe i should just start over with a fresh default LocalSettings.php
[20:37:45] <simple>	 it's not like i have a lot of things to add/change in it anyway
[20:42:07] <Skizzerz>	 I'd recommend that, yes
[20:42:18] <Skizzerz>	 rename LocalSettings.php to something else, re-run the web installer
[20:42:46] <Skizzerz>	 you should be safe to point it at the existing database (it'd go into update mode), but to be super safe either take a backup first or let it create a new dummy database that you then blow off
[20:43:02] <MaxSem>	 one last thing: how did you upload the new version? is there a chance that some files weren't updated/uploaded?
[20:43:42] <simple>	 i just used wget to get the tarball, and untarred it in place, then renamed my /wiki/ to wiki.old, and renamed the new one to /wiki/
[20:44:05] <MaxSem>	 hmm, that sounds safe
[20:44:07] <simple>	 Skizzerz: this is a migration to a new server, so i have the 1.26.2 sql dump handy
[20:44:22] <simple>	 the old server couldn't upgrade, since it was an older CentOS version
[20:44:28] <simple>	 this server is Debian
[20:44:28] <MaxSem>	 usually it's people who use FTP to upload file by file have problems with this
[20:44:38] <simple>	 yeah, FTP is just bad for overwriting crap
[20:47:05] <Skizzerz>	 MaxSem: my hunch is that some of the requires are throwing things off
[20:47:25] <simple>	 the only require i have added to that was for the googleAnalytics plugin
[20:47:38] <Skizzerz>	 simple: in modern mw versions load skins via wfLoadSkin() and extensions via wfLoadExtension() instead of require_once, assuming the extension has migrated over to extension registration
[20:47:49] <simple>	 ok
[20:47:59] <Skizzerz>	 yeah, but the DefaultSettings.php require is gone now, and it should be wfLoadSkin( 'monobook' )
[20:48:17] <simple>	 hm, i have php-apcu installed, but the install isn't detecting it
[20:49:32] <MaxSem>	 DS required for the second time shouldn't break anything
[20:53:18] <simple>	 i see i have some problems.. both php5 and php7.0 packages are installed, and it's using php5
[20:54:01] <simple>	 my php-apcu is for 7.0
[20:55:38] <Skizzerz>	 you'll need to config the webserver to use php 7
[20:56:00] <Skizzerz>	 1.29 works just fine on it, and it's a lot more performant than php 5 :)
[20:57:42] <simple>	 what should my project namespace be?
[20:57:54] <simple>	 i don't see a setting for that in my old LocalSettings
[20:58:13] <Skizzerz>	 the default is fine ("same as wiki name")
[20:58:23] <Skizzerz>	 which in your case would be IdleWiki:
[20:58:28] <simple>	 ok
[20:59:57] <MaxSem>	 simple, did you move the ./cache directory over?
[21:00:07] <simple>	 no
[21:00:10] <MaxSem>	 goog
[21:00:13] <MaxSem>	 *good
[21:04:59] <simple>	 ok.. seems to work, but i can't seem to log in now
[21:05:16] <simple>	 it asked me a username/pass in the webconfig, but that seems to not work
[21:05:35] <simple>	 oh.. typo, my bad
[21:08:59] <simple>	 telling apache2 to use php7 instead of php5 wasn't that hard
[21:11:06] <simple>	 how can i get to the config page again, so i can tell it to use apcu?
[21:12:07] <simple>	 ah, mw-config
[21:12:22] <Skizzerz>	 set $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL; in your LocalSettings.php
[21:12:31] <Skizzerz>	 that will make it use apcu
[21:13:07] <simple>	 excellent, that's what i was looking for
[21:13:36] <simple>	 i think this is all i needed
[21:13:47] <simple>	 thanks for the help, Skizzerz
[21:13:53] <simple>	 and MaxSem
[21:13:57] <MaxSem>	 :)