[02:55:26] <traumschule>	 !smw
[02:55:26] <wm-bot>	 SemanticMediaWiki is an awesome extension that lets you connect wiki pages with semantic relations. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_MediaWiki> and <http://semantic-mediawiki.org/>. Mailing lists are available at <http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=147937>
[03:02:57] <bawolff>	 i feel like whoever wrote that reallyblikes smw
[03:05:08] <traumschule>	 is that good or bad? :)
[03:07:40] <bawolff>	 Well like all things there are people who like smw and there are people who dont
[03:08:36] <traumschule>	 i tried talking in the SMW channel, but it was only me
[03:09:24] <bawolff>	 Usually there are a good number in there, but it can be quiet at certain times
[03:09:46] <bawolff>	 I assume. I dont really hang out there
[03:10:36] <traumschule>	 i do although it only logs code changes
[03:11:40] <traumschule>	 probably not the best way to get people into it ..
[03:12:59] <bawolff>	 SMW still seems to have quite a lot of fans, especially in corporate settings
[03:13:29] <traumschule>	 that explains a lot
[03:16:54] <traumschule>	 our wiki is run by volunteers. they wouldn't show up on SMWCon probably
[03:18:01] <bawolff>	 I attended enterprise mediawiki con, and it was all about how corporations use smw internally
[03:18:21] <Trela>	 That scares me.
[03:18:36] <bawolff>	 i found it quite interesting as i was very unaware what goes on in that world
[03:18:55] <bawolff>	 i mostly focus on wikimedia wikis
[03:18:57] <traumschule>	 What do they throw in there, customer data?
[03:19:28] <bawolff>	 it was more like internal training stuff, memos that sort of thing
[03:19:57] <bawolff>	 documenting corporate procedures etc
[03:20:48] <traumschule>	 we collect travel info on nomadwiki.org and organize locations. A section for services and skills is being worked on.
[03:22:46] <bawolff>	 Cool
[03:23:21] <traumschule>	 do you know similar community based SMW projects?
[03:26:06] <bawolff>	 The closest site to that i can think of is wikivoyage but its not smw
[03:28:04] <bawolff>	 I would suggest looking at wikiapiry, but its down
[03:28:05] <traumschule>	 we link to that one at several places, it's more oriented toward tourism
[03:28:20] <traumschule>	 never heard of that one
[03:28:53] <bawolff>	 Wikiapiry collects stats on which wikis are most popular
[03:28:59] <bawolff>	 or used to anyways
[03:29:17] <bawolff>	 https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Semantic_statistics
[03:31:52] <bawolff>	 Well really not the same thing and also not smw, Appropedia might have a like-minded audiance to your site
[03:33:26] <traumschule>	 appropedia is nice, someone mentioned peswiki lately (about energy projects), but looks like it needs help cleaning a bit
[03:35:57] <traumschule>	 there's also sharewiki.org but nothing happens there really
[03:59:46] <traumschule>	 do you know why it sometimes takes so long until properties are updated in SMW. for some requests I miss pages that should show up.
[04:03:54] <bawolff>	 I dont know much about smw, but i would guess job queue issues
[04:04:52] <bawolff>	 if you setup runJobs.php to be run via a cron script at regular intervals, its usually much more robust
[04:04:59] <bawolff>	 !jobqueue
[04:04:59] <wm-bot>	 The Job Queue is a way for mediawiki to run large update jobs in the background. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue
[04:09:30] <traumschule>	 can change cron jobs for the wiki atm, but will bookmark it
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[12:42:06] <ShakespeareFan00>	 hi
[12:42:12] <ShakespeareFan00>	 Can you help me solve a problem?
[12:42:19] <ShakespeareFan00>	 https://species.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LintErrors/missing-end-tag&offset=4329&namespace=0 
[12:42:42] <ShakespeareFan00>	 says this page has a missing end tag -
[12:42:44] <ShakespeareFan00>	 https://species.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Retha_(Clarke)&action=edit&lintid=7799
[12:44:02] <ShakespeareFan00>	 the missing end-tag proved to be mismatched ''' ''' formatting
[12:49:19] <ShakespeareFan00>	 Which was by no means clear
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[15:20:16] <Grupo>	 hi!
[15:28:17] <Developer>	 Hi all,
[15:30:14] <Developer>	 I am using wikimedia API to find recently (as recent as 5 min) changed content in german wikipedia. I observed that in last two weeks, there have been template function changes which leads the edit fetcher API to return all pages from german wikipedia. Does anyone know what's going on? and if these changes are expected to continue in future?
[17:48:20] <yuvipanda>	 hello
[17:48:29] <yuvipanda>	 am trying to help someone set up HTTPS on their mediawiki installation
[17:48:35] <yuvipanda>	 it's https://en.cppreference.com/w/
[17:48:51] <yuvipanda>	 you'll note that that doesn't seem to be loading any CSS or JS
[17:49:01] <yuvipanda>	 because mw is emitting those URLs to be http rather than https
[17:49:06] <yuvipanda>	 setting
[17:49:08] <yuvipanda>	 #$wgServer = "https://en.cppreference.com";
[17:49:11] <yuvipanda>	 doesn't seem to help
[17:49:56] <yuvipanda>	 it's also running mediawiki 1.21, but I believe that should still support this?
[17:50:35] <Skizzerz>	 hi
[17:50:52] <MaxSem>	 I'm pretttttty sure HTTPS support was improved since then
[17:51:03] <Skizzerz>	 yuvipanda: well the # in front means it's a comment
[17:51:08] <Skizzerz>	 I assume you meant without the # though
[17:51:17] <yuvipanda>	 Skizzerz: yeah, it's commented out now
[17:51:31] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: yeah, but I'm hoping I can make this as minimal a thing as possible :)
[17:51:56] <MaxSem>	 mmm, will it help if we find a hole in it? :P
[17:52:08] <Skizzerz>	 getting it to a currently-supported and patched version should be included in "minimal a thing as possible"
[17:52:45] <Skizzerz>	 although you'll likely need to update the skin
[17:52:50] <Skizzerz>	 oh
[17:52:54] <Skizzerz>	 the skin might also just be hardcoding http
[17:53:22] <yuvipanda>	 right, so it's possible vector didn't support this until a later version
[17:53:38] <Skizzerz>	 they aren't using vector
[17:53:45] <Skizzerz>	 it's a custom skin
[17:53:51] <Skizzerz>	 er, customized
[17:53:59] <Skizzerz>	 seems to be based on vector though
[17:54:34] <yuvipanda>	 yeah
[17:54:43] <Skizzerz>	 (I use that site a ton :P)
[17:55:16] <yuvipanda>	 Skizzerz: :D 
[17:55:36] <MaxSem>	 what about other related settings?
[17:55:46] <yuvipanda>	 Skizzerz: I don't use it at all, but a friend is trying to embed it inside a https only website, and hence I've been asked to help
[17:55:49] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: which ones?
[17:56:39] <MaxSem>	 does $wgScriptPath include the domain instead of being relative?
[17:56:55] <MaxSem>	 because it totally seems like that
[17:57:23] <MaxSem>	 vanilla MW settings emit relative links to resources, this site doesn't
[17:57:39] <yuvipanda>	 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/07030798286dab6811caf4f262feb5cc is the LocalSettings.php
[17:57:57] <yuvipanda>	 wgScriptPath doesn't seem to be explicitly set
[17:58:21] <MaxSem>	 for Satan's sake
[17:58:39] <MaxSem>	 that file looks like it have seen dinosaurs
[17:58:54] <Skizzerz>	 lol yeah
[17:59:00] <Skizzerz>	 yuvipanda: that file includes 2 other settings files
[17:59:12] <Skizzerz>	 LocalPurgeCache.php and LocalSharedSettings.php
[17:59:17] <Skizzerz>	 anything relevant in those?
[18:00:22] <yuvipanda>	 let me ask for those
[18:00:58] <yuvipanda>	 Skizzerz: I've just asked 'em for those. I don't actually have access to this server
[18:01:04] <Skizzerz>	 ah
[18:01:19] <yuvipanda>	 Skizzerz: MaxSem I've also said that they might need to upgrade. However, I don't have the bandwidth to actually help them upgrade.
[18:02:04] <MaxSem>	 tell them about that magic IRC thingie that they can use to ask questions here
[18:02:11] <Skizzerz>	 :D
[18:02:12] <MaxSem>	 "might"
[19:41:54] <slayerjain>	 Hi all, I've created a schema, and now i'm trying to log some data from client side
[19:42:35] <slayerjain>	 according to the docs (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EventLogging/Guide#Analyzing_EventLogging_data), mw.eventLog.logEvent( schemaName, event ) should work
[19:43:07] <slayerjain>	 but I get, TypeError: mw.eventLog.logEvent is not a function. (In 'mw.eventLog.logEvent("MousePostion", data)',
[19:43:13] <slayerjain>	 can anyone please help?
[19:49:47] <MaxSem>	 slayerjain, are you loading ext.eventLogging?
[19:50:08] <slayerjain>	 on the client side?
[19:50:19] <slayerjain>	 in js?
[19:51:22] <slayerjain>	 I've installed event logging extension, created a new Schema, and now i'm trying this.
[20:10:54] <xxdaveyxx>	 Hello. 
[20:12:32] <xxdaveyxx>	 I am working with PageForms and I would like to add a #formlink to the sidebar but that doesn't seem to be working.
[20:13:04] <xxdaveyxx>	 I've also tried the following to MediaWiki:Sidebar: Special:FormEdit/FormName|FormTitle 
[20:13:17] <xxdaveyxx>	 Does the sidebar not like subpages?
[21:19:38] <Solidergeist>	 Hello there. Any good ldap  extensions for mediawiki? Because the one on the top google search is scaring me with the lack of updates.
[21:20:19] <MaxSem>	 the top result is what WMF is running,s so it at least roughly works :)
[21:22:57] <Solidergeist>	 well, i had it running somehow before, but now with clean install just wanted to make sure if there is no alternatives
[23:31:57] <traumschule_>	 http://www.wikiservice.at/gruender/wiki.cgi?WikiVerzeichnis