[02:01:56] <ANON004040040>	 Hello?
[08:38:04] <Kitty>	 Hi
[08:38:30] <Kitty>	 simple question: is there an admin section of a media wiki where I can control users? I've been asked to delete a user on the company wiki, but can't find a control panel 
[09:01:10] <Nikerabbit>	 Kitty: it's not possible to delete users with stock MediaWiki
[09:02:33] <Kitty>	 oh 
[09:02:35] <Kitty>	 disable ? 
[09:05:20] <Nikerabbit>	 you can block the account from making any actions
[16:01:41] <Esther>	 Kitty: The control panel for MediaWiki is either editing the PHP file LocalSettings.php on your server or visiting the wiki page "Special:SpecialPages" on your wiki in a browser while logged in a wiki administrator.
[16:01:53] <Esther>	 !deluser
[16:01:54] <wm-bot>	 Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser>. You can also try <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete>
[16:09:16] <Kitty>	 Esther: ok, thank you 
[16:09:21] <Kitty>	 shall try that when I'm at work tomorrow
[16:30:17] <QuasAtWork>	 anybody got an example of the best way to replace Skin::link() ?
[16:30:27] <QuasAtWork>	 keep getting bit by these 1.21 deprecation removals
[16:31:31] <QuasAtWork>	 the docs just say to use LinkRenderer instead but I looked at that and it doesn't give an example of usage from inside a skin.
[16:36:41] <MatmaRex>	 QuasAtWork: $linkRenderer = $this->getLinkRenderer(); $linkRendered->link( … )
[16:36:53] <QuasAtWork>	 cool, thanks.
[16:37:03] <MatmaRex>	 (that was meant to be $linkRenderer in both places)
[16:37:16] <QuasAtWork>	 right.
[16:38:45] <MatmaRex>	 $this is meant to be a Skin object here, if you can't access it easily, you can use MediaWikiServices::getInstance() instead
[17:16:34] <QuasAtWork>	 hmm
[17:16:40] <QuasAtWork>	 for some reason this check is failing sometimes:
[17:16:40] <QuasAtWork>	 if(method_exists($skin, "getLinkRenderer")) { 
[17:32:45] <QuasAtWork>	 doesn't seem to be documented as existing either
[17:35:31] <QuasAtWork>	 well this sucks.
[17:37:05] <Skizzerz>	 what version of mw are you working with?
[17:37:16] <QuasAtWork>	 1.29 but attempting to preserve compat back to 1.24
[17:37:41] <QuasAtWork>	 most of this new LinkRenderer stuff doesn't exist until 1.28 so I'm now having a major problem not breaking earlier versions.
[17:40:43] <Skizzerz>	 you can maybe do a version_compare() on the mediawiki version instead of relying on method_exists?
[17:42:03] <Skizzerz>	 it's not as nice, but if the method_exists is failing spuriously, it doesn't sound all that reliable
[17:43:21] <Skizzerz>	 QuasAtWork: if your question was "what to do on earlier versions that don't have LinkRenderer" then you'd probably want to use Linker::link()
[17:43:50] <QuasAtWork>	 right but I'm not sure how to even check that they don't have it at this point
[17:44:00] <QuasAtWork>	 since it requires a use statement to import MediaWikiServices
[17:44:51] <Skizzerz>	 ?
[17:45:13] <Skizzerz>	 you can use a non-existent namespace iirc
[17:45:20] <QuasAtWork>	 ah didn't know that.
[17:46:10] <Skizzerz>	 not 100% sure, I'll test
[17:48:05] <Skizzerz>	 yeah, just tested and it seems to work for me (on PHP 7, granted)
[17:49:11] <Skizzerz>	 also confirmed on 5.6 that it works
[17:49:33] <Skizzerz>	 you can just put arbitrary stuff in use statements, even if they don't exist. I don't think that binding is resolved until you actually try to make use of it
[17:55:12] <QuasAtWork>	 yay, fixed.
[17:55:23] <QuasAtWork>	 thanks.
[17:56:54] <Skizzerz>	 fwiw, the use statement isn't required in any event, you can always specify the fully qualified name, i.e. MediaWiki\MediaWikiServices::getInstance()
[18:02:21] <QuasAtWork>	 ah.
[18:02:47] <QuasAtWork>	 for all the work I've done with mediawiki related code, I'm still nowhere near fluent with general php :>
[18:05:29] <legoktm>	 QuasAtWork: is there a reason you're trying to be back-compat with 1.24?
[18:06:04] <QuasAtWork>	 because I'm still in the process of upgrading my own wiki that's currently stuck on that version :>
[18:06:41] <QuasAtWork>	 I've just got another guy trying to upgrade his own wiki to 1.29 right now and my skin broke for him
[18:14:54] <legoktm>	 ah
[18:15:41] <legoktm>	 I'd probably just use Linker::link() for now and once you're 1.27+ try using it
[19:04:51] <DarkFeather>	 Anyone here good with JavaScript? I have something I'm trying to design in Wikia (MediaWiki 1.9 modded) and some Javascript listener is preventing link clicks.
[19:08:34] <DarkFeather>	 nvm
[19:17:02] <Esther>	 :-)
[19:43:22] <QuasAtWork>	 (surely he meant 1.19)
[19:45:39] <paladox>	 wikia runs 1.19. (that is really old) :)
[19:46:05] <QuasAtWork>	 yup
[19:46:17] <QuasAtWork>	 albeit with about 1000 custom extensions
[19:46:29] <QuasAtWork>	 granted 900 of those are for putting more ads on the page :P
[19:46:48] <QuasAtWork>	 anyway gotta run.
[19:53:32] <c>	 Wikia isn't even mediawiki anymore with all the custom stuff they have
[21:30:40] <Zppix>	 c:  they took mediawiki and practically just rewrote it in extentsions
[21:33:41] <c>	 i am aware, i started on wikia before you knew what wikia even was
[21:33:56] <Vulpix>	 wikicities, probably