[00:39:49] Hello, so I have a question: on my wiki, I have created pages "wiki/index.php/DW:pagename" then I found that I might want to define that namespace within the LocalSettings.php file, so after I created the namespace, when I do "/index.php/DW:pagename", it says the page hasn't been created, so.... [00:43:54] Where did the pages go? [00:44:18] On the LocalSettings.php file I put: [00:44:18] $wgExtraNamespaces[NS_DW] = "DW"; [00:44:19] $wgExtraNamespaces[NS_DW_TALK] = "DW_talk"; [00:49:16] You broke it [00:49:27] They're just hidden, because you changed the config [00:49:50] !namespacedupes [00:49:55] !hi [00:49:55] There are multiple keys, refine your input: hiddencategories, hidetabs, hidetoc, highlight, [00:49:59] hello [00:50:10] blawblaw: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:NamespaceDupes.php [00:50:57] I forgot to mention that I also put this in the config: [00:51:00] define("NS_DW", 3272); [00:51:00] define("NS_DW_TALK", 3273); [00:51:27] that doesn't matter [05:37:43] can someone please mark this page for translation? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MediaWikiHook [14:45:56] Hello all! I've got a very broken extension on my hands and I'm hoping someone might be able to help me. Visual Editor is giving me the stink eye even after upgrading to 1.30 :( [14:47:00] * Reedy eyes Ulfr [14:47:14] I swears! [14:47:30] I was given assurances that if I upgraded past release my VE troubles would go magically away! [14:47:40] They were gonna mutiny if I didn't make VE stop eating everyone's references [14:48:27] It's possible that the REL1_30 VE isn't very stable [14:48:35] And some backports are needed before 1.30 goes GA [14:49:20] One of the people in that channel told me that 1.30 was hunky dory, and 1.29's backport was giving me the same problem. [14:50:11] namely I hit the save button and everything just stops. Even the bloody scrollbar [14:51:02] It's possible it might all work [14:51:18] Who lied to you? [14:51:49] Nobody lied to me, I'm reasonably sure my wiki's ultimately at fault. (I don't have logs from then, nor any interest in throwing someone under the bus) [14:51:58] awww [14:52:05] beating people up is the fun part [14:52:20] I'm not saying you're in that channel and probably have logs, but it's possible [14:52:22] I suspect the VE guys would be interested in knowing if the random point in time that we used for REL1_30 doesn't work properly [14:52:54] This branch is 3 commits ahead, 82 commits behind master. [14:53:15] well, 1.29 is for sure a broken backport [14:53:53] something about gd not being in there yet or something [14:55:28] Citoid is working flawlessly, which is part of why I wanted to upgrade. Silly me for thinking that was the hard part [14:58:43] On reviewing the publicly available logs, I wasn't specifically TOLD that 1.30 would behave, but it was implied. [14:58:59] heh [14:59:18] I suspect some/most of the VE people aren't about yet... Else #mediawiki-visualeditor [14:59:26] Or file some tasks about stuffs being broken [15:00:12] I've been floating about in there on and off all weekend, but typically I need to complain in here for a VE senpai to notice me :D [15:00:37] Just pretend VE is broken on Wikipedia [15:00:39] Then someone will listen [15:01:10] If I'm going to commit purgery I'd rather there wasn't blatant evidence in a channel they're all in anyway [15:01:49] a more generic "SOMETHING IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET"? [15:03:20] mehh, still feels sorta scummy lying to someone who is under no actual compulsion to help me other than they saw my distress signal [15:03:31] believe it or not I am capable of manifesting patience. It's just really really hard [15:04:23] If you file bugs you can then complain no one is responding to them [15:05:42] but then I have to file bugs and be the sort that complains that way. I've fantasized about lighting a bag of something on fire after placing it on a complainer's doorstep. grumble. I guess I'll do that. Phabricator right? [15:05:52] Yeah [15:06:01] I dunno if anyone will care about 1.29 [15:06:05] But people should care about 1.30 [15:06:34] considering the amount of effort it took to acutally get it to install I'd hope so [15:06:40] (I'm not git literate, don't judge me) [15:10:19] Yup. Couldn't find bug report form. Will bother someone about it once the west coast is caffienated. [15:10:32] ... [15:10:38] !reportbug [15:10:38] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/ [15:13:21] Well, fine! [15:20:27] Hmm.. someone should probably care about 1.29 if we're supporting it till July 2018 [15:21:28] I mean it's the same behavior, so fixing the one should (presumably) fix both [15:22:07] I was going to set up a vanilla install and do the whole add pieces in if it works from the start until it breaks thing, but parsoid was not amused about the hostname switcheroo [15:22:12] thus I came here and started whining [15:22:20] Seperate backports, but yeah [15:22:38] as long as the code hasn't changed much between versions, shouldn't be too bad [15:23:01] Yep. I'm willing to bet the latest and greatest dev version has a fancy new means of spawning dialogue windows? [15:23:23] er.. nix the ?, that was a statement. [15:23:56] in comparison to 1.29 maybe [15:23:57] to 1.30.. probably not [15:24:11] well it seems like that's what's derping out my copy of the software :( [15:24:22] everything works great until it's time for a pop up [16:10:52] Hey, so I'd like to include an index of a specific namespace on another page, but using "{{Special:AllPages&namespace=3272}}" doesn't work. :( [16:12:50] Try with a pipe? [16:13:00] Or a slash.. [16:14:31] {{Special:AllPages/Manual:}} [16:21:11] Reedy, That suggestion made it start at "M", it didn't give me an index of everything on the namespace. [16:22:52] Did you replace Manual with the name of whatever namespace 3272 is for you? [16:23:27] And I suspect it won't give you everything, possibly due to pagination of results [16:23:52] I feel like pagination is a word invented mostly to cheat at scrabble with. [16:31:05] Eliter: when transcluding special pages, you cannot pass query string parameters. The only thing you can do is whatever those pages let you do by putting a slash and then some stuff after it [16:35:43] how might one get a template field to display using 
 when included in a page?
[16:35:53] 	 Eliter: Skizzerz: actually, i think "{{Special:AllPages|namespace=3272}}" works?
[16:36:12] 	 
 can't go into the value, since that causes a parser error, but so far every way I've tried to put it into the template itself results in just displaying the verbatim 
 or the verbatim field token
[16:37:25] 	 MatmaRex: seems it does, yeah
[16:37:54] 	 been a long time since I needed to transclude a special page, but I distinctly recall that not working before
[16:47:33] 	 figured it out, {{#tag:pre|{{{Full text}}} }} does what I need
[16:49:20] 	 I love the variety in wikicode delimeters
[16:49:28] 	 Oh, {{ is one? let's also add {{{
[16:50:09] 	 someone should make a keyboard layout that has them
[16:50:21] 	 qwikity
[16:53:35] 	 Skizzerz: it's relatively new, apparently, added in MW 1.19. r93758
[16:53:49] 	 I didn't care enough to look :P
[16:54:00] 	 but sounds about right, I think the last time I cared about something like that was around 1.12
[16:54:50] 	 before we had those new-fangled special page groupings *shakes cane and shouts something about evacuating from grass-covered areas nearby domiciles*
[16:55:25] 	 (no, i didn't spend the last 20 minutes looking for it, i was afk for a bit)
[16:55:30] 	 heh
[17:38:51] 	 Reedy: So very glad I submitted that report ;P
[17:41:48] 	 I keeding
[17:41:55] 	 I know who broke the extension anyway!
[17:45:02] 	 It was obviously MatmaRex :D
[17:45:20] 	 :o
[17:46:38] 	 Having a problem with VisualEditor, figured I'd point the finger at someone
[17:47:53] 	 also entirely kidding, I just know that blaming Reedy is an excercise in futility
[18:47:48] 	 Hey guys, anyone know have any news on LDAP support for 1.26+?
[18:51:59] 	 works even in 1.31
[18:52:45] 	 WMF is using it in production, so asking as if it's broken is not helpful. just explain your problem
[19:02:39] 	 MaxSem, fair point. Well the plugin page mentions it is broken beyond 1.27, so I wanted to know why
[19:02:48] 	 Is it only related to the "auto" plugin?
[19:19:20] 	 ah well, LDAP can wait
[19:20:33] 	 flying_sausages_: They've got it working in wikipedia, might be worth a try.
[19:20:42] 	 Is there any mechanism I can use to make multiple "templates" for pages? the terminology might not be right, but I'm essentially talking about having a pre-filled page when I'm trying to create a new one, into which I could possibly just fill in info
[19:21:25] 	 Our old sysadmins managed to get it working on .26 so it can be done, but it is a bit of a mess to be honest
[19:21:32] 	 Ulfr, ^
[19:22:03] 	 flying_sausages_: Yeah, sounds like a hot mess. and you might want to investigate Widgets or templates with arguments
[19:22:07] 	 either should suit your need
[19:23:40] 	 Anyhow, say I want to make a lot of pages about for example, different virtual machines running in our company. They will all need fields for IP addresses, OSs, Owners etc
[19:23:56] 	 the only way I remember I did this like 7 years ago was through using boilerplates
[19:24:21] 	 then again back then I was 13
[19:24:37] 	 ...
[19:24:38] 	 see above
[19:25:17] 	 I would have to make templates with 20 arguments
[19:25:44] 	 Yup!
[19:26:11] 	 Is that a standard thing to do? sounds like you can miss one and then the entire thing below that one you missed won't make sense
[19:26:26] 	 Take a look at the citation templates on wikipedia xD
[19:26:48] 	 I think I might be better off with MultiBoilerPlate
[19:27:11] 	 More power to you!
[20:49:52] 	 flying_sausages_: preload?
[20:50:14] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php#Options_affecting_the_edit_form
[20:50:38] 	 or semantic something although that's a largish change
[20:51:39] 	 re: LDAP, autoplugin has been killed
[20:52:00] 	 normal login with a single domain works, WMF is using
[20:52:02] 	 ...it
[20:52:40] 	 normal login with multiple domains should work in theory, AFAIK no one ever tested it since the rewrite though
[20:53:29] 	 the people who actually use LDAP and are somewhat involved with MediaWiki development don't want to deal with LdapAuth
[20:54:15] 	 see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/LDAP_hub
[21:06:59] 	 tgr|away thanks for the LDAP links, I'll try it with one domain on Thursday
[21:07:40] 	 as far as content goes, I think multiboilerplates best fits what im trying to do