[01:57:14] anyone run a mediawiki on AWS? trying to understand a few things dealing with user accounts. [01:57:56] mostly best practices -- setting up a non-privileged account on linux, maybe IAM if someone is familiar with that. [07:08:44] hi all [07:09:11] I'm searching for a way for users to see if a page has changed since their last visit [07:09:37] without going in history, something immediately visible when they consult a page [07:10:14] or maybe, show a table with last modifications on the top f the page [07:10:34] is there something to do that ? or another approach ? [07:11:03] (other than "follows" on a page, as people tend to ignore mail notifications) [07:38:30] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:News < this was promising, but it seems I cannot configure it to show only revisions of current page$ [07:38:39] (or I missed something) [15:26:05] Hello [15:27:29] I just want to ask if there exist an active Forum for Mediawiki?? I found one but i opened a topic befor 2 days and there was not even a visit on it ^^ so maybe you know a community who's more active [15:30:06] DL2ROY, where did you post already? (links always help!) -- There's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk and some alternatives linked in the right-hand sidebar. [15:31:28] it is a german forum... http://www.wiki-forum.de/geheime-seiten-t382225.htm#4552847 but as i said there is no activity... in theire chat is 1 user actually and all the time when i join the room, i can see messages from other user like talking about problems on cars... [15:31:57] i actually have 2 problems with my wiki... [15:36:56] DL2ROY: the best place to ask is here. and if nobody is around who has an answer, ask on the wikitech-l mailing list. Or as quiddity said, you can try https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk. [15:37:06] But this channel is really a good place to start [15:39:36] ok, I want to use my Wiki as Notebook. but i don't want to show my notes to other ppl... That's why i'm searching for a possiblity (I hope there is one with groups) to do a Group only with me and maybe 1 or 2 friends who can find, see, read my notes, maybe an othe group who can also edit my notes and than an other group who can create articlesbut never see or find my notes aso aso ... that's the first problem, I need hidden pages [15:40:07] DL2ROY: it'S possible, but never 100% secure. MediaWIki is not made for that use. [15:40:11] !access [15:40:11] For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [15:41:04] the easiest and most secure (but also ugliest and least convenient) way to do this is using old school HttpAuth [15:41:28] to be clear, "most secure" here means "not very secure either". [15:41:53] lol :-( so like impossible to be secure :-( [15:42:48] Yes. MediaWiki is a tool for knowledge sharing. Not much thought was given to to keeping people out. [15:45:22] DL2ROY: MediaWiki is the main battle tank of wiki engines. It's *really* powerful. But it's not easy to set up and maintain, nor fast or pretty. And perhaps not the right tool for mowing your lawn. [15:46:15] yeah i can see that it's very hard... :-( but what could i take else for this :-( [15:53:04] omg, i think i'm out... i don't understand what to do o_O there is no concrete example ... :-( [15:53:46] DL2ROY: there's a ton of other wiki engines. and i bet there are personal notbook services, too. [15:54:08] DL2ROY: look, there's a wikipedia page about this :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_wiki [15:54:42] i will see what i can take.... [15:54:54] Or something comemrcial. Evernote? [16:05:21] I like Evernote a lot [16:08:23] i have some possibilities from my hoster but i can also try to installesomething manually... [16:20:03] just 1 other question... how can i put a picture on a page?? i tryed it with this: [[File:Example.jpg|20px|link=]] but there comes no image [17:02:14] anyone there? [17:26:55] anyone can tell me why my pictures won't work with [[File:/pics/PIC.png|link=]] ???? [17:33:26] DL2ROY: You need to up[load the picture first [17:34:06] yes but how??? i loaded them up via FTP in the folder pics (which i created in the wiki mainfolder) [17:35:01] but it don't works... so maybe it should be on an other place?? and i think there should be a more easy way to load them up because not every user of the wiki has ftp access [17:35:03] Type Special:Upload in the Searchbar [17:35:58] oh uploading files is deactivated [17:36:27] how to change?? and is there an administrator page where i can change some settings like this? [17:37:12] Unfortunately not. Configuring MW is done by editing the LocalSettings.php file in the root directory of you MediaWiki installation [17:37:35] For uploading see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads [17:37:48] omg... ok, so i will have to look on that later on ... .-( that's very hard all this... [17:37:52] thx man [17:38:04] np [17:40:59] DL2ROY: allowing server configuration to be changed via the web interface is rather dangerous. yes, many web applications allow this (e.g. wordpress). their history of nasty security issues looks accordingly. [17:41:30] But as I said: MW is a battle tank. you want a vespa. [17:42:13] you want something lite, cute, and easy. MW isn't it. [21:17:31] Hi. I have one question. How to make to list of recent changes be like on Wikipedia, no in group [21:17:59] Site for which I ask is: https://vezba.in.rs/ [21:25:06] Zoranzoki21: In your preferences, disable "Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist" [21:25:30] for all users, set usenewrc to 0 in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDefaultUserOptions [21:27:10] thank you very much [21:28:46] yw [21:39:01] this is test message. [21:39:25] ok.. IRC client work [21:53:41] Hello there was a typo and this page needs to be deleted: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42308289 thanks [21:54:59] Noah_: I think you need to ask at the #wikidata channel (if it exists), not here