[06:37:17] <tuxbert>	 Is this the right place to raise a complaint with a MediaWiki wiki?
[07:16:53] <DL2ROY_>	 Hello
[07:17:50] <DL2ROY_>	 is there an other way, like the opposite to the whitelist??? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights So like a blacklist where i can add 2 or 3 pages to the blacklist and noone can see those 2-3 sites? 
[11:16:29] <km4>	 hi guys I dont know why mediawiki on my server logout me when I jump from category/home/page/etc. Its random and strange. How? Why? any ideas ?
[13:58:20] <Esther>	 Hi km4.
[13:58:27] <Esther>	 Maybe some kind of user session storage issue.
[13:58:42] <Esther>	 Or possibly HTML page caching is messed up and showing you as logged out.
[14:31:37] <km4>	 Esther: ok thanks, I will testing
[15:23:45] <raghu>	 I am having trouble with a mediawiki site.  I changed the skin preference to Erudite accidentally, and after that every page shows up empty.
[15:24:44] <raghu>	 The site is http://wiki.contextgarden.net ; the pages show up fine if I don't login.  As soon as I login all links lead to empty pages.
[15:25:31] <raghu>	 Would appreciate any advice.
[15:33:07] <andre__>	 raghu, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms#You_see_a_Blank_Page
[15:41:29] <raghu>	 amdre__, that page seems to be for the wiki admins.  I am a user.
[15:41:55] <raghu>	 andre__, that page seems to be for the wiki admins.  I am a user.
[15:43:41] <raghu>	 Also if I add the suffix ?useskin=default, the pages show up fine.  E.g.,  http://wiki.contextgarden.net?useskin=default shows the main page correctly.
[15:45:21] <Zppix>	 raghu: forgive me i wasnt online for the context what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[15:47:18] <raghu>	 Zppix: I am a user of the wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net  After logging in today I accidentally chose Erudite skin in the preferences section of the wiki.  Since then all the pages in the wiki have been showing up blank.
[15:47:59] <Zppix>	 Are you able to access wiki.contextgarden/special:Preferences ? Raghu
[15:49:13] <raghu>	 Yes, if I add the suffix ?useskin=default to that URL.  I can then go to Appearances and change the skin to default.  But when I click on Save it doesn't save the change, and returns to a blank page.
[15:49:42] <raghu>	 Zppix: Yes, if I add the suffix ?useskin=default to that URL.  I can then go
[15:49:42] <raghu>	         to Appearances and change the skin to default.  But when I click on
[15:49:43] <raghu>	         Save it doesn't save the change, and returns to a blank page.
[15:50:08] <Zppix>	 Can you do a ctrl+F5?
[15:50:57] <raghu>	 Zppix: WIll try now.
[15:53:24] <raghu>	 Zppix:Yes I changed skin to default at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:Preferences?useskin=default and have pressed Ctrl-F5.  The page reloaded after that.
[15:53:36] <Zppix>	 raghu: is back to normal?
[15:54:27] <raghu>	 Zppix: That page reloaded normally.  But when I click any link on the page it goes back to blank.
[15:55:11] <Zppix>	 andre__: im out of ideas can you lend a hand
[15:56:26] <raghu>	 Zppix: Thanks.  I was wondering if after logging in with ?useskin=default, there was a way to change preferences from URL.  Like https://../?setskin=...
[15:56:59] <Zppix>	 I dont think thats a valid url suffix
[15:57:47] <andre__>	 Zppix: Use your browser's developer tools to debug, I'd say.
[15:59:01] <Zppix>	 andre__: I am unable at the moment as im on mobile, im only going thru basic troubleshooting steps i have in past when i had this issue with custom css skins ive attempted
[15:59:28] <raghu>	 Zppix: Unfortunately I don't know how to do so.  I have notified the Wiki admins through mailing list.  I hope they will fix it.  Meanwhile I am trying to see if I can do something about it.
[16:00:00] <raghu>	 andre__: Unfortunately I don't know how to debug.  I have notified the
[16:00:00] <raghu>	         Wiki admins through mailing list.  I hope they will fix it.  Meanwhile
[16:00:01] <raghu>	         I am trying to see if I can do something about it.
[16:00:09] <andre__>	 raghu, I just explained how to debug
[16:00:24] <andre__>	 Use your browser's developer tools. :)
[16:02:21] <raghu>	 andre__: Thanks, I am downloading Firefox developer edition :)
[16:02:36] <andre__>	 raghu: why why why would you do that?
[16:03:19] <Zppix>	 Andre not everyone knows what you mean by that... raghu all you have to do is hit f12
[16:03:28] <andre__>	 raghu: no "developer edition" needed for anything I mentioned.
[16:03:29] <andre__>	 raghu: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Web_Console
[16:03:33] <raghu>	 andre__: I don't know what you mean by developer tools.  I searched the web for firefox developer tools, and that was the first link.
[16:04:02] <raghu>	 andre__:, Zppix: thanks. Will try now.
[16:04:10] <temuccio>	 hello all...I have update my mediawiki and now extensions:random page is not supported. Is there a  method in the markup to get a random page (with show the name of random page
[16:04:14] <temuccio>	 ??
[16:04:37] <andre__>	 temuccio: well, first of all, why is it not supported anymore?
[16:05:30] <temuccio>	 sorry andre__ , it is beta version
[16:06:16] <temuccio>	 and the installation require this row: require_once "$IP/extensions/RandomPages/RandomPages.php";....Is that compatible with mediawiki 1.29.1=
[16:06:18] <temuccio>	 ?
[16:08:48] <raghu>	 andre__: Zppix: Pressed F12 and visited wiki main page.  Everything empty:  <html><head></head><body></body></html> is what I see in the inspector.
[16:09:11] <andre__>	 raghu: Then it's really something that only admins can fix, I'm afraid
[16:09:45] <raghu>	 andre__: Thanks,  I'll contact them again.
[16:17:16] <temuccio>	 andre__, I have a problem with short url and htaccess....
[16:17:31] <temuccio>	 I use a sub/sub directory in my server, do you can help me?
[16:18:36] <temuccio>	 the site is in : http://aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/dialetti/mediawiki-1.29.1/index.php?title=Home
[16:20:19] <temuccio>	 this is my /dialetti/mediawiki.1.29.1/Localsettings.php
[16:20:20] <temuccio>	 https://nopaste.xyz/?e1882e933792aace#SKasqxSQxHS58DAWltNoRXL/hmZZnHdLB5lz7zBw4ZE=
[16:21:10] <temuccio>	 and this is my /dialetti/.htaccess
[16:21:10] <temuccio>	 https://nopaste.xyz/?ba865d2637eeeb37#e38NjSOK/rgwnydFeFDPiok5xWceBPsCT8CYOTHtdpY=
[16:21:19] <Skizzerz>	 temuccio: use single quotes in LocalSettings, not double quotes
[16:21:33] <Skizzerz>	 for $wgArticlePath
[16:21:49] <temuccio>	 but If I go on http://aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/dialetti/wiki/Home
[16:21:56] <temuccio>	 I have a NOT FOUD
[16:22:02] <temuccio>	 FOUND
[16:22:06] <Skizzerz>	 your rewrite rules are also wrong
[16:23:13] <temuccio>	 Skizzerz, now I change the quotes...
[16:23:24] <Skizzerz>	 do NOT include DOCUMENT_ROOT in your rewrite rules
[16:23:33] <Skizzerz>	 you're rewriting to *urls*, not *files*
[16:24:20] <Skizzerz>	 so remove all instances of %{DOCUMENT_ROOT} from your .htaccess
[16:25:47] <temuccio>	 ok Skizzerz 
[16:26:49] <temuccio>	 Skizzerz, I chanche %{DOCUMENT_ROOT} with full path or empty?
[16:27:19] <Skizzerz>	 remove it entirely
[16:27:23] <Skizzerz>	 do not change it to anything, delete it
[16:29:22] <temuccio>	 Skizzerz, doesn't works
[16:32:33] <temuccio>	 if I go on http://aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/dialetti I view the apache tree
[16:33:09] <temuccio>	 If I go on http://aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/dialetti/wiki/ I view 404 Page not found
[16:34:46] <temuccio>	 this is my update .htaccess
[16:36:53] <temuccio>	 https://nopaste.xyz/?ed566279a62dfd6f#Ql6IK8C2+4PLs3FtTKGjEDLHyPz6Lq7+JThDxa1cb0A=
[16:37:53] <Skizzerz>	 you still need the RewriteConds
[16:38:06] <Skizzerz>	 just delete the %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}, do not delete anything else
[16:38:29] <Skizzerz>	 well I guess the conds aren't needed
[16:38:30] <Skizzerz>	 looking at it
[16:39:50] <Skizzerz>	 temuccio: oh, also either set RewriteBase / at the 2nd line (after RewriteEngine On)
[16:39:59] <Skizzerz>	 or delete /dialetti/ from your .htaccess files
[17:13:15] <temuccio>	 Skizzerz, I have set RewriteBase / at 2nd line
[17:13:25] <temuccio>	 And now I have Internal Server Error
[17:14:28] <temuccio>	 Ok I have solved internal server error, but doesn't work
[17:33:13] <temuccio>	 Skizzerz, I suppose that: I can't delete /dialetti/ from my .htaccess because mediawiki directory is in the subdirectory /dialetti
[17:38:27] <Skizzerz>	 temuccio: .htaccess is relative to the directory it is currently in
[17:38:46] <Skizzerz>	 try reading up on it more, and maybe search for ways of testing your rewrite rules online
[20:19:57] <t355u5>	 The search (while typing) in my Special:RandomInCategory does not work. The search box on my wiki does however, after 1 or 2 characters it shows me the pages in a dropdown.
[20:20:40] <t355u5>	 Are there any maintenance scripts I have to run to get this working?  
[20:29:36] <t355u5>	 I checked with the browser inspector and the ajax calls actually returns something, but no dropbox with the results is shown
[22:41:19] <legoktm>	 t355u5: is there a javascript error? what versions of MediaWiki are you using?
[22:45:32] <t355u5>	 legoktm: 1.29.1 and no, there's no js error
[23:06:42] <ElmerG>	 Evening all.
[23:08:25] <ElmerG>	 Is there an archive of older versions of extensions anywhere?
[23:09:16] <legoktm>	 everything is in version control, so yes
[23:11:25] <ElmerG>	 Okay... that means very little to a non-programmer like me. The extension I'm trying to find an old version of, tabber, only has one download, the 2.4 version. There are no older versions that I have been able to locate.
[23:21:37] <t355u5>	 legoktm: if you have any ideas, please let me know… :-)
[23:40:57] <Niharika>	 t355u5: https://github.com/HydraWiki/Tabber/releases
[23:44:48] <t355u5>	 Niharika: ???? I think you meant ElmerG
[23:45:04] <t355u5>	 Niharika: wth is tabber
[23:45:23] <Niharika>	 t355u5: Ah, sorry. I did mean ElmerG. 
[23:45:29] <t355u5>	 Niharika: :-)