[00:38:02] hi all, clicked a red link for a file in my wiki and uploaded the file OK, but when I return to the page, the link is still Red. Any idea what would cause this? The file name perhaps? [00:38:46] wmat: Did you purge the page with the red link? [00:38:52] Sometimes pages get cached for a short amount of time. [00:39:09] I did not, let me try that [00:39:14] A page is generated with a red link, the red link becomes blue, and the page has to then be regenerated. [00:39:28] This should happen mostly automatically by default, but it can be a bit slow. [00:40:26] doh, that was it. Thanks!!! [05:10:02] Wellcome [11:56:35] hi. I am using syntaxhighlighting, but the line property destroys copy & paste code because when i copy my snippet i also get a copy of the line numbers which totally destroys the code.This is very annoying. How do i avoid that? [11:57:28] i see it was marked as solved back in 2015 : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi/Archive_2015#line_property_destroys_copy_.26_paste_code_.28solved.29 But has the bug then been re-introduced? [11:59:52] anyone? [12:06:02] Seems it wasn't fixed in the actual extension, but mw.org's custom css. [12:06:22] diverdude, if that's not listed yet on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/syntaxhighlight/ , feel free to file an enhancement request: https://mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug [12:17:33] oh sigh :/ [12:17:55] thats probably never gonna be added [12:44:52] diverdude, if you don't 'log' your idea in the task tracker, noone will ever know about it, so the chance is even lower than "probably never". [12:45:03] your choice :) [18:11:27] eddiegp: it looks like it's in SyntaxHighlight's CSS? modules/pygments.generated.css [18:20:27] legoktm: modules/pygments.wrapper.css , no? (can't find it in pygments.generated.css) [18:22:17] eddiegp: yep, that's what I meant [18:22:22] I see the -(ms|webkit|moz)-user-select in https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi/blob/master/modules/pygments.wrapper.css [18:22:31] But not user-select: (without prefix) [18:24:36] https://caniuse.com/#search=user-select [18:25:39] this is confusing, Firefox supports the -webkit- prefixed version [18:25:45] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/user-select#Browser_compatibility [18:26:06] eddiegp: it looks like we should add the unprefixed version too now? [18:30:43] Yep, caniuse.com states chrome, opera support that without any prefix now. Don't know whether they still support the prefixed variant though, but should add the prefix-less one regardless. [18:36:59] legoktm: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/389777/ [19:20:56] I need help being able to confirm my email address. [19:21:19] I never receive a confirmation email, so we can't make any edits to our page. [19:21:28] Who do I talk to to get this corrected? [19:21:44] No phone number is provided to contact for user support. [19:28:09] Please, someone help me. I am not website person. Just need to get this fixed so we can make edits. [19:31:16] Haslag: is this on your own mediawiki site or somewhere else... [19:32:35] This is our own mediawiki site. Thank you so much for responding. [19:33:05] Haslag: i presume you have a basic SMTP server installed on the server, or mediawiki configured to use a different SMTP server for sending mail [19:33:18] I have tried several times to confirm my email address, but it keeps saying that it can't send the confirmation code. [19:33:25] I am sorry, but I have no idea what you just said. [19:33:39] Haslag: who set this up? you or someone else? [19:33:44] if the answer is 'someone else' find them and ask them [19:33:47] I know how to login and that's about it. [19:34:10] It was setup by someone else and then they changed jobs. I have no way of getting in touch with them. [19:34:28] then it'll be very VERY difficult to give you assistance [19:34:48] if all you know is how to login then there's nothing I can relaly do to give you assistance, because we need someone familiar with the server setup to assist. [19:34:56] I have entered in my email address but no confirmation code has ever been sent. This isn't a problem on our end. It has to be with something else. [19:35:05] Haslag: there's two 'ends' here' [19:35:07] your email [19:35:08] Is there a help phone number I can call? [19:35:10] your wiki site [19:35:13] Haslag: unfortunately no? [19:35:23] There was never email with our wiki site [19:35:29] there's your problem. [19:35:39] Haslag: without email you can't *get* the confirmation code [19:35:46] that's a required part of the system. [19:35:52] at least, for that part to work [19:36:06] We never set it up because the guy who designed the website said it was unnecessary and unrealiable. [19:36:16] 'the guy who designed the website' [19:36:21] the guy who isn't here anymore you mean. [19:36:24] YEs [19:37:15] We already have a gmail email address for our project. He said it wasn't necessary for us to setup email through our wikisite since we already had our gmail address. [19:37:28] You need someone who has the knowledge to set up mailing on your server and who has access to that server. [19:38:00] So, basically, we aren't able to make any updates to our website? [19:39:57] Well he just didn't know/care about verification codes then. If you want your mail verified, the server needs to send you a email. If the server doesn't know how to send mails, you won't recieve any confirmation codes. [19:40:20] Haslag: you need to hire someone who is familar with administration to do things. [19:40:27] such as for the mail server part [19:40:30] Then how was he able to setup the website and do any edits from the start? [19:40:31] and for the site administration part [19:40:42] Haslag: you don't need any email to setup the core admin account [19:40:47] that's set up as part of the setup process [19:40:55] from there he can *create* accounts with passwords and an email address [19:41:02] But he made edits to the website for a year after he set it up. [19:41:05] but it doesn't mean the server was set up with an SMTP server. [19:41:13] ... [19:41:19] i think you need to just hire a sysadmin [19:41:22] and then let them deal with it [19:41:33] We are a small nonprofit, which means we have no money. [19:42:02] i work for seven small nonprofits and small businesses as a consultant for a small fee. they seem to be able to afford it :P [19:42:08] point not witihstanding [19:42:14] you don't understand what is actually *needed* to run a server [19:42:19] vs. what is *bare minimum* to use accounts [19:42:32] you don't need a fully fledged email system in place on MediaWiki to just create accounts [19:42:39] you *do* need a fully fledged one to send confirm codes [19:42:40] Thanks for your help. I appreciate it. I know I don't have the knowledge to do this. I had someone else volunteering to make the few edits we needed for this year. [19:43:13] I didn't realize this was going to be such a fiasco to just make a few edits. [19:43:29] Thanks again. Have a great day! [21:12:56] I'm using a wikitext table construct in a few hundred places in the site I'm porting over, and I've noticed that the table is drawn to the width of the browser, and all columns are equally width'd. I tried using the various colspacing/cellpadding/etc. options, as well as the css styling (margin:auto;), and even the table construct (table-layout:auto;), all are ignored. [21:13:14] Is there some magical, wikitext incantation to size the tables to their content, not to the width of the browser window? [21:13:27] |foo|bar|blort| for example, is 2560 wide. Not ideal. [21:13:46] This page has nothing that helps: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables [21:13:54] I've tried every suggestion [21:17:50] Woop, looks like I just answered my own question: {| class="wikitable" style="width:1px;white-space: nowrap;" [21:23:13] setuid: i would suspect that you have 'width: 100%' set somewhere in CSS, and using 'width: auto' in the `style` attribute would also work ('white-space: nowrap' shouldn't be necessary then) [21:23:50] I tried width:auto; that didn't work. I haven't touched any of the core CSS (it's a requirement to leave it sterile)