[04:30:32] is anyone familiar with the Transliterator extension? [04:37:00] in a map, can you map a character to arbitrary wikitext? [04:37:43] specifically, I'd like to use it to substitute English letters with image links that are the corresponding letters of the script for my conlang [04:38:35] so, for instance [04:38:59] a => [[Image:Conlang Letter Elmon.png]] [04:51:15] does anyone object to me removing the nginx!! compilation and installation instructions from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PostgreSQL ? [10:01:44] i am trying to patch my 1.27.1 mediawiki because of latest security issues. am i wrong or is .patch file for 1.27.3 missing under https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.27/ [10:14:21] From what I read over here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages#Restricting_page_access it's not really possible to restrict access to the specialpages for unauthenticated persons. [10:14:28] Or am I missing something? [10:30:18] beli: It's only for SyntaxHighlight, I think. See https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2017-April/088078.html [10:31:53] Nikerabbit: hmm thanks, i found that syntaxhighlight patch...but i still got chunks from .3 to .4 afterwards. then i have to check them manually [10:34:17] Han: Restrict view access, you mean? [11:48:35] Niharika, indeed. [13:22:45] you know I think I just figured out why mediawiki hasn't sought to vastly overhaul its UI to make it friendlier :) [13:23:54] thedj, btw i got all my css goodness working well - thanks for that chat last week [15:46:25] stevenm: Why's that? [15:48:07] Niharika, keeps the non-techie ordinary web browsing folk from thinking about editing anything... it's a supposition - obviously... but if it that is (by anyone) a goal... then it likely works [15:48:43] visual editor kinda breaks with that idea... but thats just the actual content - rather than page management and figuring out what does what in the system :S [15:49:35] but then as thedj was saying other day... mediawiki was made in another era and stuff has just been bolted on ever since [15:50:03] Ah. But why keep non techie folks from editing? What purpose does that serve? [15:51:25] well (probably a generalisation I admit) I expect the more techie editors have a better eye for detail. spelling/grammatical correctness... following guidelines... naming conventions...etc [15:52:34] Hmm, could be. [15:54:59] the biggest UI thing I always think of is how wikipedia has never had some great big button the middle (or even to the side of it) that screams "HEY! YOU! WRITE SOMETHING NEW... CLICK HERE TO MAKE A NEW PAGE :D" [15:55:10] because it'd just cause such awful content :P [15:56:18] essentially the awkwardness of the software - actually helps keep the content being edited by the more elite (what a crappy thing to say) [15:56:55] but i'm kinda seeing it - and again this is all supposition/opinion :) [15:57:09] i'll stop now - it's just me thinking aloud - my lift should be here any minute [15:58:09] i've only been thinking along these lines as I've been massively editing custom.css to make our internal mediawiki (and thus also vector skin) more usable to the general staff ... who think (irritatingly) it should just work like word or sharepoint :) [16:05:24] I've pretty much given up trying to teach our users how to wiki. it's just too much of a cultural shift, it seems [16:47:55] How to change default format of date? [16:48:52] For who? Where? [16:49:00] It's a user preference [16:49:05] Yes [16:49:10] To be default for all users [16:51:03] Something with $wgDefaultUserOptions['date'] I guess [16:52:25] I tryed with $wgDefaultUserOptions['date'] = serbian; [16:52:28] But it reproduce errors: [16:53:12] because it's not valid php [16:53:43] See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDefaultUserOptions [16:54:08] namely: the quotes around it are required [16:54:34] I want to add to be format for Serbian [16:54:39] and according to the docs, 'serbian' isn't a valid option... dunno if that's a docs issue or not [16:55:05] you can't just add formats, you have to pick one of the ones already there [16:55:11] in the link Reedy gave [16:55:40] Will work d. month y. [16:56:06] http://prntscr.com/hfyhu1 [16:56:43] date default Date format. Options: [16:56:43] 'default': No preference [16:56:43] 'mdy': 16:12, January 15, 2011 [16:56:44] 'dmy': 16:12, 15 January 2011 [16:56:44] 'ymd': 16:12, 2011 January 15 [16:56:45] 'ISO 8601': 2011-01-15T16:12:34 [16:56:48] 'persian': 15 Farvardin 1390 SH (Iranian Calender, Persia) [16:57:52] Ok. Thank you [16:58:56] Can anyone think of an alternative to the family tree template for the content being presented in the FIRE section of this page? https://www.wikidoc.org/index.php?title=Chest_pain_resident_survival_guide