[00:27:22] if you change $wgMetaNamespace, how does that info get propagated? I set the value, but it appears to be inconsistently applied. [00:27:43] is it applied through runJobs.php? [00:27:44] applied where? [00:28:26] To content... because the 'privacy policy' link is good, but the 'About' link is stale [00:28:38] e.g. https://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/ESportspedia:Community/Site_Policies [00:29:10] that's not content, that's the skin [00:29:15] do you have varnish or file caching enabled? [00:29:22] those need to be reset/cleared probably [00:30:00] I do, but isn't that invalidated? [00:30:58] That's why I don't understand the 'privacy policy' has the long-winded value of "Esportspedia_-_League_of_Legends_Esports" for the project namespace whereas the other links on the page have the stale value of "ESportspedia" [00:32:50] I'm running refreshLinks.php thinking that might solve the issue [00:40:56] oh you're right [00:40:58] I think refreshLinks.php might help [00:42:43] It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't use the Project namespace as a template namespace and transclude that content everywhere #NotDesignedToBeUsedThatWay [00:45:16] As a workaround, since "Project:" is a built-in alias for $wgCanonicalNamespaceNames[NS_PROJECT], it works to use {{Project:Foo}} in your translusions [00:45:28] transclusions [03:34:50] All the admin hates me [03:35:57] i guess he wasmt lying [14:12:46] I'm seeing something weird on meta with MediaViewer showing older versions on images. The thumbnails on the page are updated but MV shows an older version even after refreshing a few times. [14:19:04] Niharika: got a test case? Which browser? Logged in or not? [14:20:39] andre__: Yes. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Grant_metrics_tool##3.1_Event_page_-_Participants_section I updated image 1, 3 and 4 in that horizontal view. The thumbnails are correct for all three but MV shows older versions. Logged in. Can you reproduce? [14:21:47] For example, the button in the first image says "Update data" in the new version instead of "Recalculate totals". [14:22:40] andre__: Browser shouldn't matter but I'm on Safari right now. [14:23:09] Niharika: Cannot reproduce, but I have not been to that wiki page and those images before (aggressive browser caching?) [14:23:37] andre__: Hm, maybe. [14:24:09] I've updated images before but haven't encountered this ever. [17:16:37] When creating a page in mediawiki using VisualEditor, is there a way to mark the page as draft temporarily ? [17:22:01] What would you expect a "draft" to be? Saved with VE or some other editor, to mediawiki it's just a page that's saved. Some wikis use a Draft: namespace and move pages once they're finished, or they put a template on top of the page stating that it's a draft. But mediawiki itself doesn't know or care in what state (draft, finished, outdated, ...) the page is. [17:26:38] eddiegp: makes sense, thanks [17:39:15] Niharika: browser-die caching of imageinfo API queries, maybe? I don't remember the details but it sets smaxage on some of its queries [17:39:28] ...browser-side... [17:40:24] (well, it sets maxage+smaxage, so could be either browser-side or varnish)