[01:22:50] <stoopkid>	 hello, i have mediawiki installed on a remote vps, is there any way to do the configuration solely through the terminal?
[01:27:54] <stoopkid>	 i see, that seems to be what this LocalSettings.php is for
[01:28:25] <stoopkid>	 so basically i'd have to construct that file and place it where mediawiki is gonna be looking for it?
[01:29:45] <legoktm>	 stoopkid: use php maintenance/install.php to generate the LocalSettings.php and then you can edit it to tweak as you want
[01:30:06] <stoopkid>	 awesome, thank you! :)
[02:01:00] <Alec>	 Hi there, I help a project which has a lot of links which need to be rendered a (or should be rendered) certain way, for example [[X|{{M|X}}]] <--X is a standin here, not literally which renders using math-markup for example
[02:01:13] <Alec>	 We have a template called link which is used as follows:
[02:04:46] <Alec>	 (still here, writing)
[02:05:11] <Alec>	 {{link|A|B}} --> [[A (B)|A]] (eg A=normal B=distribution)
[02:05:11] <Alec>	 {{link|A|B|C}} --> [[A (B)|AC}} (eg  A=plural, B=grammar, C=s)
[02:05:12] <Alec>	 {{link|A|B|C|D}} --> [[AC (B)|AD]] (eg A=pupp, C=y,B=dog, D=ies)
[02:05:12] <Alec>	 I'd like to add subpages to this template, so if template:link/X exists, then substitute it for A in the above examples in the output
[02:05:59] <Alec>	 So I'd like {{link|X|Y}} to output [[X (Y)|{{link/X}}]] - my previous attempts have failed but the issue has popped back up
[02:06:03] <Alec>	 Any comments?
[02:09:07] <stoopkid>	 so i got this error message when running install.php:
[02:09:10] <stoopkid>	 "PHP Warning:  file_put_contents(/var/www/html/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /var/www/html/mediawiki/includes/installer/LocalSettingsGenerator.php on line 208"
[02:09:47] <stoopkid>	 i think that's because i didn't run php under sudo, so i tried to do that and now i'm getting some errors that looks like install.php is trying to put some stuff in the db that it already put there
[02:10:18] <stoopkid>	 is there a maintenance script to uninstall everything so i can run install.php again properly?
[02:13:20] <stoopkid>	 https://pastebin.com/azMbzWRC
[02:16:00] <stoopkid>	 this is the specific error that's preventing the install
[02:40:11] <bd808>	 stoopkid: was this a brand new install? If so you could just drop the partial database and start over from scratch
[02:40:42] <stoopkid>	 oh, good point, thanks!
[02:55:08] <stoopkid>	 legoktm: bd808: all set up now! :) thanks again for the help
[02:55:27] <bd808>	 stoopkid: awesome. glad the fix was that easy :)
[05:01:33] <dheera>	 hi, i am currently setting up mediawiki on my  localhost. Why do we need to clone core.git                                                git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git
[07:03:27] <Spiker01>	 Greetings to all. I have question: How to create a category, that is what to write to a category page or just leave the "page content" empty (Wiki text)? I understand that the category page content is automatically generated. 
[07:04:24] <Spiker01>	 Do I create categories pages without content?
[07:26:08] <p858snake>	 Spiker01: its entirely up to how you want to run your wiki
[07:26:32] <p858snake>	 categories can be added to other categories, which is where that section comes in handy
[07:42:21] <Spiker01>	 Ok. Im understood. Thanks.
[07:43:39] <Spiker01>	 I myself understood, trying to create a category without content.
[13:25:27] <Dysklyver>	 Does anyone know if it is possible to restrict viewing access to a specific page
[13:25:53] <Dysklyver>	 perhaps so only a specific usergroup can see it?
[15:32:02] <Reception|away>	 Dysklyver: you can only do this with extensions 
[15:32:40] <Reception|away>	 https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AccessControl is one 
[15:32:52] <Dysklyver>	 ok thanks
[16:52:34] <sprite_>	 is there possibly anyone here who's experienced moving a vagrant mediawiki tarball to a new server (or reinstall) and had it not pop back up properly on the forwarded hosts after bringing it back up?
[16:55:03] <sprite_>	 I mean it's accessible via ssh's forwarded port, but it looks like it stopped spawning any apache or httpd at all
[16:58:15] <Platonides>	 when you ssh in, is apache running?
[16:58:26] <sprite_>	 nope
[16:58:44] <sprite_>	 I'm not able to start it, either.  Can't find the binaries.  Which is really troubling now that I'm digging further
[16:58:59] <Platonides>	 weird
[16:59:07] <Platonides>	 are you logged in as root?
[16:59:19] <Platonides>	 maybe need to add /sbin or /usr/sbin to the path?
[16:59:24] <sprite_>	 well, as vagrant, sudo'ed to root
[16:59:29] <sprite_>	 I'll check the path
[17:00:06] <sprite_>	 the sbins are still in the path...  Maybe I did something to corrupt this machine.  I'm going to check a backup and verify that it's missing (or not) the same binaries
[17:02:55] <sprite_>	 oh interesting.  it appears that ~vagrant is clean, too.  isn't that supposed to be full of the mediawiki directory structure?
[17:03:22] <sprite_>	 Maybe the machine got reprovisioned?  Any ideas on if that would do this?
[19:20:00] <Alec>	 Suppose I use {{X|Y|Z}} where template:X redirects somewhere
[19:20:07] <Alec>	 Does the redirect get the parameters forwarded implicitly?
[19:37:49] <Henstepl>	 Yes
[19:39:02] <Henstepl>	 http://henstepl.wikia.com/wiki/User:Henstepl?action=edit Proof
[19:40:42] <Alec>	 I've done and tested it now thanks though Henstepl 
[21:17:21] <aayushagra>	 #join mediawiki-devrel
[22:28:48] <Zppix>	 Its wikimedia-devrel... but ik
[22:28:53] <Zppix>	 Ok*
[22:38:05] <Alec>	 Zppix: don't be a bastard. 
[22:38:05] <Alec>	 https://i.imgur.com/lSagiSX.jpg
[22:39:55] <Zppix>	 Alec: please be respectful to all users, and please read our Code of Conduct thank you :)
[22:40:14] <Alec>	 Zppix: it was you that wasn't being being respectful BTW
[22:40:54] <Zppix>	 Alec: im not arguing if you want to you can pm with your concerns
[22:41:00] <Alec>	 Otherwise I wouldn't have pulled you up on you not letting this channel be a safe & inclusive space for learning Zppix 
[22:41:13] <Alec>	 Now if you can stop making it worse for people here that'd be great. 
[22:43:51] <p858snake>	 Zppix: its a redirect channel
[22:44:16] <Zppix>	 p858snake: it is?
[22:44:21] <p858snake>	 also, both of you be respectful please
[22:45:28] <Zppix>	 I didnt think there was other mediawiki-* channels... there isnt alot of redirect channels in wm namespaces
[22:45:40] <Zppix>	 Afaik
[22:46:32] <Alec>	 Back
[22:46:56] <Alec>	 So Zppix (forgive me - last bit) as an example of being more S&I towards people you could have said "you probably meant .... " instead.
[22:47:04] <Alec>	 I've said that in public because others might benefit.
[23:10:54] <larry>	 Question. Are there "Tags" in mediawiki.  If so, can they be logically combines in a search?
[23:13:27] <Alec>	 larry: semanticwiki
[23:13:51] <legoktm>	 larry: the closest concept is in normal MediaWiki is categories, but SemanticMediaWiki might have more tag-like things
[23:14:19] <larry>	 Thanks..
[23:16:20] <larry>	 SemanticWiki can do  TagA butnot TagB sort of stuff?
[23:18:26] <Alec>	 Is lmgtfy.com broken larry?
[23:19:21] <legoktm>	 larry: https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_Semantic_MediaWiki#Where_SMW_can_help the links on this page might be useful
[23:19:36] <larry>	 thanks