[00:01:05] <Hauskatze>	 I'm manually rebasing the conversion patch
[00:01:07] <Hauskatze>	 what a headache
[00:01:13] <Hauskatze>	 hate manual rebases
[00:04:31] <bawolff>	 Hmm, i think this entire extension doesn't work due to https
[00:05:35] <Hauskatze>	 it's kinda old
[00:06:15] <bawolff>	 ok, tested. Seems to work if i set $wgAutoProxyBlockSources['api'][] = 'https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php';
[00:06:20] <bawolff>	 default is just http
[00:06:23] <bawolff>	 This has been broken for a while
[00:07:12] <Hauskatze>	 I think I fixed that in the extension.json patch I'm amending now
[00:07:15] * Hauskatze checks
[00:07:41] <Hauskatze>	 api": [
[00:07:42] <Hauskatze>	 					"https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php"
[00:07:42] <Hauskatze>	 				],
[04:19:58] <larry__>	 Minor scream and feedback. After spending days trying to get visual editor to work, and failing. I deleted it. Too many different programs to install, and just too complicated. Either that or I'm more ignorant than I thought.
[05:22:02] <Ivy>	 larry__: Yeah, it be a bit of a bear.
[05:22:08] <Ivy>	 it can be *
[05:22:13] <Ivy>	 With Parsoid and whatnot.
[05:23:28] <larry__>	 I got parsoids ok. Restbase is what threw me into a tailspin.  Do wish it was a simple one click install
[05:39:01] <legoktm>	 larry__: you don't need restbase to run visualeditor
[05:39:03] <legoktm>	 just parsoid
[05:47:08] <larry__>	 lego: thanks.. I'll try again tomorrow without restbase
[05:47:45] <larry__>	 lends credence to the ignorant theeory..
[09:59:28] <harmaahylje>	 Does anyone have or know where to get a sample config file for 1.30?
[10:02:10] <harmaahylje>	 Okay I think this is pretty much what I was looking for: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php#Standard_settings
[10:06:25] <andre__>	 A sample config of 1.30 is included in 1.30. I'd say.
[10:06:46] <harmaahylje>	 andre__: where at?
[10:07:47] <harmaahylje>	 It would be useful to get one, so that I could include relevant comments with the settings
[10:16:39] <harmaahylje>	 I know that the installation script is supposed to create one, but I already have settings files
[10:16:52] <harmaahylje>	 from 1.19 
[10:17:17] <bawolff>	 I doubt its changed from 1.19
[10:17:25] <bawolff>	 We don't update the default LocalSettings.php very often
[10:17:53] <bawolff>	 Basically the only way to generate one is via the installer (either web or comand line) becaues the result will depend on what you tell the installer
[10:19:18] <harmaahylje>	 The settings have been messed by x different developers before received the mess
[10:19:41] <harmaahylje>	 So the files are missing comments about each setting for example, which I would like to add for future developers
[10:20:05] <bawolff>	 So last time we changed the default LocalSettings.php file was Thu May 4 05:53:47 2017
[10:20:43] <bawolff>	 The relavent file is includes/installer/LocalSettingsGenerator.php
[10:20:54] <harmaahylje>	 right, I'll have a look, thanks a lot bawolff 
[10:21:21] <bawolff>	 However, if you want to know what each setting does, the comments in includes/DefaultSettings.php will probably be more useful
[10:22:12] <bawolff>	 The last time we added a new setting to the default LocalSettings.php was $wgPingback on Thu Jul 21 21:00:28 2016
[10:22:13] <harmaahylje>	 bawolff: thank you so much
[10:22:36] <harmaahylje>	 the settings files I have are much older
[10:22:55] <bawolff>	 However, those changes i mentioned were pretty minor
[10:23:21] <harmaahylje>	 is it possible to run LocalSettingsGenerator from the commandline to generate new settings files?
[10:23:48] <bawolff>	 No, but you can run maintenance/install.php to do so
[10:23:56] <bawolff>	 although it will probably make you create a db
[10:24:04] <harmaahylje>	 I have an existing db
[10:24:18] <harmaahylje>	 and some multisite configuration, having several sites running on the same instance
[10:24:37] <harmaahylje>	 and several settings files, all a little bit different
[10:24:49] <bawolff>	 you probably can't use the installer to generate a new setting without letting it set up some sort of fake db
[10:25:22] <harmaahylje>	 Alright, maybe I'll try to get the comments from the scripts you mentioned and make a template for myself
[10:25:45] <harmaahylje>	 probably faster than setting a new instance and db just to run that to get a settings file :)
[10:26:18] <harmaahylje>	 I already noticed that the files have some settings that have been removed
[10:26:28] <harmaahylje>	 like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgScriptExtension
[10:28:35] <turtle_>	 Hi im getting this error when i try to run my local instance of mediawiki: https://dpaste.de/7zet can someone help ?
[10:29:04] <bawolff>	 harmaahylje: Yeah, that's been semi-removed since 1.25
[10:29:36] <bawolff>	 turtle_: Is composer dependencies up to date? How did you install mediawiki
[10:29:39] <harmaahylje>	 bawolff: is there a list of removed settings?
[10:31:10] <harmaahylje>	 $wgEnableMWSuggest seems to have been removed too
[10:31:23] <bawolff>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_Deprecated_or_obsolete_features
[10:31:29] <bawolff>	 but its not a complete list
[10:31:55] <turtle_>	 bawloff: i installed using git
[10:32:01] <harmaahylje>	 bawolff: thanks. I'll use that and manually confirm every single one. So much thanks!
[10:32:03] <bawolff>	 Most accurate list is various RELEASE-NOTES files and includes/DefaultSettings.php comments (or lack of setting being in DefaultSettings.php)
[10:32:11] <bawolff>	 turtle_: did you run composer
[10:32:39] <bawolff>	 turtle_: try running: composer update --no-dev
[10:37:06] <turtle_>	 bawloff: thanks a lot!, it solved the issue
[10:37:40] <turtle_>	 bawolff: thanks a lot!, it solved the issue
[10:38:06] <bawolff>	 Hmm. It'd be nice if we could get mediawiki to generate a nicer error message in this situation
[12:17:48] <Martin__>	 I met some problem here...   I've just installed MediaWiki 1.30 on Ubuntu 16.04 32-bit, and I've successfully installed Parsoid and RESTbase. The 8000 port for Parsoid and 7231 port for RESTbase are all accessible and can return the correct pages. But when I try to edit or create pages using Visual Editor, the message shows up: Error loading data from server: Could not connect to the server. I've read through the docs in MediaWiki
[12:18:42] <Martin__>	 it seems that no one has met this problem before. Any help would be appreciated😊 thanks again
[14:03:43] <stevenjgarner>	 Any chance it might be easy to place mediawiki-1.30.0 inside a sub-directory as part of a larger website called by a parent index.php?  When I test that out I get : Error: GlobalVarConfig::get: undefined option: 'ServiceWiringFiles'
[16:42:53] <Minato826>	 hello does any one know how not to substitute a template used on signature
[16:45:15] <Skizzerz>	 Minato826: if you control the wiki there's a way via localsettings.php to accomplish that, otherwise there are workarounds like Template:Nosubst
[16:46:02] <Skizzerz>	 for LocalSettings.php, setting $wgCleanSignatures = false; will turn off substitution
[16:47:24] <Minato826>	 well template:Nosubst will be enough because i am talking bout thrid party site
[16:47:34] <Minato826>	 *third
[16:47:59] <Skizzerz>	 k, wikipedia has it in a lua module Module:Unsubst
[16:48:13] <Skizzerz>	 there's a pure wikitext way of doing it, but I'm having trouble tracking it down (been ages since I've used it myself)
[16:49:07] <Skizzerz>	 oh, just make the template literally be the content {{{{{1}}}}}
[16:49:42] <Skizzerz>	 say you name that Template:Unsubst, then your signature would be {{subst:Unsubst|User:Minato826/sig}}
[16:50:07] <Skizzerz>	 which would make ~~~~ expand to {{User:Minato826/sig}} followed by the date
[16:50:27] <Minato826>	 ok thanks
[17:27:47] <The-Psychid>	 I'm thinking of installing MediaWiki to make a wiki dedicated to a future project of mine.  I want to include fonts that would be essential to both the project and its Wiki.  But is there any way I can upload them to the wiki directly from my computer?  If so, what code would I have to input?
[17:29:30] <Skizzerz>	 The-Psychid: you're asking for two different things. Computer fonts and web fonts are different file formats
[17:29:46] <Skizzerz>	 if you want the wiki to be displayed using a specific font or fonts, you'd need to include webfonts and set up CSS rules to make use of them
[17:30:10] <Skizzerz>	 if you want to use the wiki as a repository to download font files, you can configure uploads to allow ttf and otf
[17:30:32] <Skizzerz>	 (although do note that a large number of fonts have licensing restrictions in terms of who can use it / how many computers it can be used on)
[17:31:11] <The-Psychid>	 So I'll need Webfonts if I want to code in custom fonts on my wiki?
[17:38:08] <The-Psychid>	 I'm sorry about me being disconnected unexpectedly.  But I understand you said something about using Webfonts in order to upload fonts onto your wiki's server.  Is that correct?
[17:42:51] <The-Psychid>	 https://webfonts.ffonts.net
[17:42:55] <The-Psychid>	 Is this what you meant?
[17:43:16] <andre__>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_typography
[17:45:40] <The-Psychid>	 Forgive me if I'm giving you a hard time; but I understand that you would have to include font tags in CSS pages.  But I was hoping to find a way I can upload my customized fonts onto the wiki's server so that my users won't have to go through the trouble of downloading it themselves.
[19:08:14] <Zoranzoki21>	 I always forget how to disable group listing changes in recent changes
[19:09:14] <briant>	 i need help with configuring my msi system 
[19:09:27] <Zoranzoki21>	 briant: Hi. What you need?
[19:11:55] <briant>	 i came across this tower and put it together and now i asm having a problem downloading and installing updates
[19:14:23] <Skizzerz>	 Zoranzoki21: in prefs, the feature is called "enhanced recent changes"
[19:15:05] <Zoranzoki21>	 Skizzerz: I want to disable by default for all users on mediawiki
[19:15:12] <Zoranzoki21>	 *on my wiki
[19:16:07] <Skizzerz>	 Zoranzoki21: $wgDefaultUserOptions['usenewrc'] = 0;
[19:16:31] <Skizzerz>	 throw that in your LocalSettings.php
[19:16:39] <Zoranzoki21>	 Skrizzerz: Thank you
[19:17:24] <Zoranzoki21>	 briant: What you put together?
[19:19:04] <briant>	 well i put in different hard drives and the power supply has sata and ide
[19:19:48] <Zoranzoki21>	 briant: You have wiki in local host or on real server?
[19:20:42] <briant>	 http://webchat
[19:20:57] <Zoranzoki21>	 what?
[19:21:28] <briant>	 thats whats in my browser
[19:21:53] <Zoranzoki21>	 Give me link of your wiki
[19:22:50] <briant>	 how and were is the link located
[19:24:32] <briant>	 im not kidding im new to this
[19:24:57] <p858snake>	 briant: are you looking for help with the mediawiki platform or building a pc?
[19:25:36] <briant>	 buildin a PC
[19:26:18] <Zoranzoki21>	 briant: http://prntscr.com/ic15jo here you can see link
[19:26:22] <Zoranzoki21>	 example
[19:26:48] <Zoranzoki21>	 briant: Which version of mediawiki you use?
[19:27:24] <p858snake>	 briant: that is off-topic for this channel, but ##hardware may be able to assist you
[19:36:28] <briant>	 im not sure
[19:37:17] <briant>	 thank you
[21:33:30] <penguinstyles>	 Heya everyone. I'm currently working on a skin for MW but I'm having an issue with some of the OOUI styles conflicting with my skin's styles. Is there any way to disable the OOUI styles?
[21:42:16] <MatmaRex>	 penguinstyles: kind of, but not really
[21:42:56] <penguinstyles>	 Are there any major consequences in disabling them?
[21:43:45] <MatmaRex>	 penguinstyles: this option: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgResourceModuleSkinStyles can be used for the OOUI's modules (e.g. 'oojs-ui-core.styles'), so you can technically amend or replace their styles, but if you remove the styles then obviously they will render in silly ways
[21:44:13] <MatmaRex>	 and it's difficult to actually create your own "theme" for OOUI widgets