[06:22:15] <Jayprakash12345>	 Hey, Anybody here who know HTMLForms in MediaWiki? (For Special Pages)
[11:38:08] <harmaahylje>	 Hey, I found that I might want to use the extension "Variables", it doesn't seem to be found with composer. Are there anything else that I could use instead?
[11:39:06] <harmaahylje>	 I would like to have temporary variables in pages, so that I don't have to repeat everything all the time. For example when doing if statements, I have to do #ifeq 'statement', and then wrtie the whole thing again when I want to print that 'statement'
[11:39:19] <harmaahylje>	 It kills my soul inside for doing stuff like that
[11:40:04] <harmaahylje>	 I don't want any extensions that I have to download manually (please remove the ones that aren't offered in package managers, so that users/admins will update their extensions)
[11:42:39] <harmaahylje>	 wow, basically a few of the extensions are available via composer
[11:43:26] <harmaahylje>	 what a mess, so there are n+1 ways of acquiring extensions, it is pretty hard for anyone to maintain this in the long run
[11:44:20] <harmaahylje>	 I guess I'll just stick to writing overly complicated and long 'formulas' on templates then
[11:44:57] <Reedy>	 Most extensions aren't available via composer
[11:45:04] <Reedy>	 Because it's not really a supported method of installing extensions
[11:46:45] <Reedy>	 If you don't want to install an extension "manually" (whether from tarball, or git or similar), and such, make your life harder in one way or another, that's your decision
[11:46:57] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Composer/For_extensions
[11:47:03] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Composer/For_extensions#Current_status
[11:47:14] <harmaahylje>	 Why is composer introduced if it isn't supported?
[11:47:20] <Reedy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T467#1343633
[11:47:37] <Reedy>	 For managing third party libraries
[11:47:47] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Composer
[11:47:52] <Reedy>	 "Composer is a dependency manager for PHP libraries."
[11:48:00] <Reedy>	 a MW extension isn't a PHP library
[11:48:07] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Composer
[11:48:56] <harmaahylje>	 Reedy: thanks
[11:51:48] <harmaahylje>	 Quite a mess for MW it seems
[11:52:29] <harmaahylje>	 I will just stick to composer and get rid of other extras that need to be manually installed. It is not maintainable if one has to download files by hand
[11:52:54] <harmaahylje>	 Hopefully the issue will be solved and a migration path will be delivered
[11:53:30] <Reedy>	 You can install them by cloning the extensions git repository
[11:55:00] <harmaahylje>	 That's a nice workaround, but I can't do that. I don't know who will maintain this in the future, I am here to fix this mess. The one continuing in later years might not know git
[11:55:45] <Reedy>	 It's a reasonably standard tool...
[11:55:53] <Reedy>	 It's not really a workaround
[11:57:14] <harmaahylje>	 could I use composer to install from git?
[11:58:07] <harmaahylje>	 Git surely is a standard tool for any serious programmer, but I doubt many mediawiki users are familiar with it
[11:59:48] <harmaahylje>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Variables/blob/master/composer.json
[11:59:52] <harmaahylje>	 so there it is
[13:04:23] <harmaahylje>	 well didn't get composer to install variables from git, I guess the composer.json is missing version or smth
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[22:21:29] <Hauskatze>	 anomie: any idea why "[Wo3vKwpAEDUAAI5M8FQAAAAK] Exception caught: Internal error in ApiQueryAllUsers::execute: Saw more duplicate rows than expected" happens/might indicate?
[23:37:06] <anomie>	 Hauskatze: Best guess I have is duplicate rows in the querycachetwo table. You might see if SELECT qcc_namespace, qcc_title FROM querycachetwo WHERE qcc_type = 'activeusers' GROUP BY qcc_namespace, qcc_title HAVING COUNT(*) > 1; returns any rows.
[23:37:39] <Hauskatze>	 anomie: would that work on a replica? I don't have shell.
[23:38:02] <anomie>	 Hauskatze: Is this happening on a WMF wiki? Which one, I can check it.
[23:38:02] <Hauskatze>	 curiously other users can add me, while I cannot query my own username
[23:38:17] <Hauskatze>	 anomie: added you to the ticket, it's happening on mediawikiwiki
[23:38:35] <Hauskatze>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187834
[23:42:14] <anomie>	 Hauskatze: Hmm. I can't reproduce it from the queries in that task.
[23:43:07] <Hauskatze>	 anomie: neither qgil either, but it's happening only to me then? What a weird error.
[23:43:16] <Hauskatze>	 there are logstash codes afaics
[23:45:26] <anomie>	 Hauskatze: Is it still happening right now?
[23:49:17] <Hauskatze>	 anomie: let me retest, I logged out
[23:50:31] <anomie>	 I see the error on there. Hmm.
[23:50:41] <Hauskatze>	 anomie: cannot add my username, nope, The API fails.
[23:51:13] <Hauskatze>	 VM218:54 XHR finished loading: GET "https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&list=allusers&auprefix=MarcoAur&aulimit=10".
[23:52:27] <Hauskatze>	 now it works, somewhat
[23:52:54] <anomie>	 Hauskatze: Do you have the X-Wikimedia-Debug extension?
[23:53:58] <Hauskatze>	 anomie: sure
[23:55:17] <anomie>	 Hauskatze: Load that https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&list=allusers&auprefix=MarcoAur&aulimit=10 URL using the extension to target mwdebug1002, please. I'll probably be having you do this a few times as I try different things.
[23:55:48] <Hauskatze>	 ok, do you want me to check "log", "profile" or "read only" ?
[23:56:03] <anomie>	 log, yes. I don't think the other two will help us.
[23:56:25] <Hauskatze>	 code: "internal_api_error_MWException", info: "[Wo4HFgpAIDMAAEoADVoAAAAQ] Exception caught: Inter…s::execute: Saw more duplicate rows than expected"}
[23:56:29] <Hauskatze>	 with &debug=true
[23:56:38] <Hauskatze>	 activating x-wikimedia-debug now
[23:56:53] <Hauskatze>	 and we're on
[23:59:31] <Hauskatze>	 trick: if I write "MarcoAurelio" (which is not recognized) but I hit "Enter" it lets me
[23:59:45] <Hauskatze>	 but if instead I do the "submit" thing, it errors