[08:40:47] <Nemo_bis>	 I had forgotten they are still on 1.6 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Special:Version
[13:25:19] <Ivy>	 :-)
[13:39:00] <sensille>	 i'm a bit lost... am trying to create graph in my mw installation. installed Scribunto and Graph extensions, but the demos "{{Graph:Chart|..." don't work, instead link to non-existing Template:Graph:Chart
[13:39:11] <sensille>	 where do I get the templates?
[13:43:09] <Ivy>	 Hi sensille.
[13:43:18] <Ivy>	 Templates are wiki pages.
[13:43:21] <Ivy>	 !templates
[13:43:21] <wm-bot>	 For more information about templates, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates>. See also: !templateproblems , !wptemplates
[13:43:25] <Ivy>	 !wptemplates
[13:43:25] <wm-bot>	 To copy templates from Wikipedia, use Special:Export and check the "Include templates" option to get all the sub-templates, then upload the file with Special:Import on your wiki. You'll also likely have to install the ParserFunctions extension, Scribunto extension and install/enable HTML tidy. You also might need some CSS from Wikipedia's Common.css. You'll also need a lot of...
[13:43:50] <Ivy>	 Basically you can need to copy over/import those wiki pages.
[13:47:25] <sensille>	 Ivy: thanks. so is using the templates the recommended way to start with the graph extension?
[13:51:32] <Ivy>	 Maybe?
[13:52:32] <Ivy>	 You can probably test the graphing functionality without immediately needing a template.
[13:53:27] <sensille>	 i'm sure i can. it just makes me wonder why the demo page requires extra templates that are not part of the extension itself
[14:11:42] <sensille>	 Ivy: that worked, thanks!
[16:00:57] <niso>	 hi, if ive tried to add an extension but my server return 500 when this changed is made, how i can see what causing this problem? ive try to set log using $wgDebugLogFile, but its seems to not appear in there
[16:33:48] <Reedy>	 !debug niso
[16:33:48] <wm-bot>	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging Also see https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms
[16:33:58] <Reedy>	 niso: Did you touch the file on disk first?
[16:38:40] <niso>	 stuff is been written to log
[16:38:52] <Reedy>	 ;)
[16:39:12] <niso>	 but is look like 'access' log instead of debug
[16:40:14] <niso>	 i saw this page, that where i learn about $wgDebugLogFile, but seems like logs about extension initialize isnt there, there is more place to look for?
[16:42:14] <Reedy>	 Depends what is wrong with it
[16:42:55] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug#Turning_display_startup_errors_on
[16:46:51] <niso>	 still 500 :(
[16:48:44] <Reedy>	 Check your webserver error log?
[16:53:35] <niso>	 that was great idea, ty!