[00:13:52] hi [00:25:28] I'm getting an error message when trying to read wikipedia dump [00:41:04] hello [00:41:32] I am troubleshooting an install of the most recent Media Wiki server [00:43:19] My specific question is whether to install Visual Editor or Wiki Editor [00:43:40] In the situation whereby I've installed WikiEditor the Cite option does not appear [00:43:42] Any ideas? [00:44:26] What screenshots should I share to get help on this? [04:33:14] Hello [04:33:26] I asked this question a few hours ago [04:33:53] but maybe no one was available to answer the question [04:34:42] #wikimedia-dev [04:34:59] is a better place to ask my question? [04:55:07] Guest13685, what's the question [10:19:24] Hi [10:22:45] if anyone here familiar with the math extension? [10:33:25] !ask | ePirat [10:33:25] ePirat: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [10:34:22] I updated the Math extension and now it does not work anymore with my mathoid server [10:36:56] what does Special:MathStatus show? [10:37:33] the issue is that I get: MathRestbaseInterface.php: Math extension can not find Restbase URL. Please specify $wgMathFullRestbaseURL. [10:37:52] I have no idea what that is, the wiki does not mention it. [10:38:08] and I do not intend to use whatever thing "restbase" is [10:40:22] see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math#Mathoid [10:41:29] yes this is not helpful, unfortunately [10:42:06] why? [10:42:11] mathoid already was and is working fine and correctly set-up [10:42:28] the link says "this is likely to also require a RESTbase server/installation". [10:42:51] "likely also requires", very precise. and no further information about why and how… [10:43:05] I am trying to update an extension using the convertExtensionToRegistration.php script. However, I keep getting errors about classes that cannot be found. Is there something I can add to fix this? [10:44:44] andre__, I have no idea how it is ok to break the math extension all the time with some weird changes and then not even documenting this properly… this is unacceptable [10:46:40] I guess that "all the time" and "weird" and "unacceptable" are supposed to express frustration. As all involved folks are volunteers (as far as I know) I'm afraid anyone is free to help improving the documentation [10:48:45] andre__, it seems the answer is: I need restbase. if I do not want restbase, I can't use math extension anymore… :/ [10:48:50] I guess I will just see if I can downgrade the math extension to some old version… [13:08:34] Hi, is there a sysadmin who could please provide a backtrace for WtXxkwpAIC4AAFUcNzcAAACT on T47301? [13:08:35] T47301: non-reproducible False positive AbuseFilter bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T47301 [13:09:17] Daimona: #wikimedia-tech is better suited for that. Let me look it up. I am not a sysadmin though. [13:10:36] andre__ thanks, in case a sysadmin is needed I'll ask there [13:11:53] Daimona: Added the trace. Looking up traces does not require sysadmins. [13:12:03] but I don't know the exact group of people who can do that either. [13:12:12] All I know is that I am not a sysadmin. :) [13:12:28] and as it's an error on Wikimedia sites, this is not really a topic for #mediawiki :) [13:13:39] Oh wow, many thanks :D Sounds like the doc on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgShowExceptionDetails should be changed, then. Thanks again and sorry for bothering [13:14:30] Ah. Heh! :P [13:14:45] yw [14:01:47] andre__, Daimona: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=2759766&oldid=1922845&title=Manual%3A%24wgShowExceptionDetails&type=revision [14:20:48] DanielK_WMDE Seems fair, many thanks [14:34:43] anyone using mediawiki 1.30 and CAS? [14:36:37] itdocs: CAS? [14:37:11] central authentication service (SSO) [14:49:55] itdocs: it should't be too difficult to support, if the existing extensions aren't working [14:50:38] ~16-20 hours of effort or so [14:51:17] we went from 1.19 to 1.30, and CAS no longer works. how about ldap authentication with active directory, for v1.30? documentation available? [14:51:34] did you update the cas extension as well? [14:51:47] ldap auth is known to be (mostly) working in 1.30 [14:52:05] doesn't support automatic sign-in via kerberos, so you'll need to enter your credentials on the login screen [14:52:09] no. was not aware we had to. can you offer URL for ldap auth for 1.30? [14:52:22] whenever updating mediawiki, always update every extension you have installed as well [14:53:38] for CAS, if you can set up an environment variable (not always a given), https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Auth_remoteuser can work [14:53:47] it seems the main CAS extension is unsupported for recent mediawiki [14:53:54] LDAP is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication [14:54:09] the big scary warning at the top is just letting you know what I said earlier: doesn't support automatic sign-in via kerberos, so you'll need to enter your credentials on the login screen [14:54:22] it still supports the regular login flow, even on 1.30 [14:55:06] thanks for the information. [14:56:14] if you really really want CAS and the environment variable thing doesn't work (Auth_remoteuser), I can develop support for you on contract :) [14:59:15] we will give it a shot. do you have a site we can locate contact info? [15:00:02] sure, you can reach me at https://mwusers.org -- my rates are on there as well [15:00:52] (when logged in, a "Contact Us" link should appear at the bottom which will allow for private communication) [15:25:45] I am looking to upgrade a wiki from 1.23 to 1.30 and everything works fine except it seems noticeably slower in serving pages. Both old and new are basic apache+sqlite on ubunut linux. Is there some checklist to go through? [15:27:40] phiofx: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Aaron_Schulz/How_to_make_MediaWiki_fast [15:28:12] I'd make sure you have the APCu extension installed [15:38:34] legoktm: thanx will check these out [15:59:28] Hello, I made a Blog post on my journey with Mediawiki in wordpress, Where can I post my blog in Mediawiki? [16:01:28] Gopa: If you think of content on https://blog.wikimedia.org/ there are guidelines on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog [16:01:34] (if I understood you correctly) [16:02:44] andre__: I will check it out once, Thanks [16:07:37] Gopa: I don't know what "in MediaWiki" means [16:07:50] as mediawiki.org is not a blog publishing platform. But maybe I don't understand your question. [16:07:58] No need for private messages if nothing is secret. Thanks :) [16:10:03] Sorry I doesnt mean to publish blog in mediawiki.org I just mean how to this to community? [16:10:18] *share this to community? [16:11:22] Heh, depends on the "community" you have in mind :) Cannot generalize [16:11:38] There is this IRC channel, there are mailing lists, there are talk pages on the wikis... [16:11:50] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Communication [16:12:15] Oh Thanks for letting me know this. [18:03:59] Is there a standard method of documenting software versions? Like "The current version is 1.2". At some point that data is invalid, so I'd like to tag such references, so that we know wherever we reference temporal data like that. If there isn't a plugin, is there a tagging or syntax mechanism? Or is an inline comment adequate? Ideally I think I'd like to see a single SpecialPage that has all such references. Thanks. [18:08:39] TonyG_: Special:Version [18:13:07] is there a way for me to use parsferfunction to display certain text if a page is on a template rather then on the actual page itself? [18:13:19] I guess I wasn't clear: When documenting many software packages in wiki pages, we reference their versions ... not the version of the current MW installation. So the "current version" of Office might be 2018 and the current version of Windows might be 10 and the current Ubuntu is 11.16 ... I want to make sure we go back to recheck and fix temporally volatile data like that. [18:13:56] Im transcluding a page via a template call. within that template it shows a page. i want to write a statement that includes a button on the full page and does not show if its the template [18:23:05] kevindank: perhaps is what you are looking for? [18:30:18] TonyG_: And what is the problem doing that? Go to the page, change it. (Don't want to be rude, just asking for clarification.) [18:33:14] Logical question - in a site with many such references we need to manually react to events in the outside world: Someone notices that Ubuntu is now at 11.18, remembers that some page includes the version, and makes a conscious decision to go check/change that. It would be much better to have a single page that has a link to all such pages so that we can regularly check the current versions and update the pages. Better? [18:35:12] TonyG_: make a template that represents the current version for each software. make a page that uses all these templates, providing an overview. [18:35:42] this way, you have a central place to check software versions, and when you update the template, the version is updated everywhere it is used. [18:37:53] Ding - I believe we have a winner. We can then create a tracker item to periodically check software and update just that one template, or look at the template index to see software that needs to be checked. [18:48:03] @DanielK_WMDE_ I just verified that is indeed the solution. Thanks! [20:22:36] What is the proper parser function to display text if in a category [20:23:12] {{#ifeq: {{Category: Pages in a Category}} | This is a category! | not a category}} [20:23:12] ? [20:28:29] kevindank: You could use {{NAMESPACE}}. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Namespaces [21:19:43] hello, what channel is used for mediawiki website translation ? [21:20:47] cronolio: mediawiki.org itself? here is fine. but about MediaWiki the software, here or #mediawiki-i18n [21:23:02] then i will sitting here