[04:15:15] Hi. I have an account but can't remember it [04:15:44] Is there any way to get my information [04:16:49] account where? [14:26:38] Hello, it seems my email and/or my ip address has been globally blocked and I am not quite sure what caused this, please help if possible, thank you [14:27:58] I found out when trying to log in, I did not remember my username but I am sure I know my password, so I was trying different combinations of usernames and passwords, maybe that caused it? [14:30:17] hello all [14:31:20] i have upgrade my ubuntu server to bionic (18.04) and now my wiki (1.30.0) no longer work, i got the following php error message in loop: Undefined index: 26.0000000 in /var/www/wiki.astrololo.fr/vendor/wikimedia/base-convert/src/Functions.php on line 87 [14:31:35] value of index change [14:34:33] what php version were you on before? [14:34:43] 7.1 and now 7.2 :( [14:36:25] it is configured as private wiki with authentication (dont know if it help) [14:42:33] Might want to file a bug about that [14:52:25] yes i will do that [14:53:08] I'm guessing bcmod is returning a different value rounding... [16:25:52] James_F: So apparently somebody on #wikimedia-dev claims you are blocked from entering #wikimedia-dev ... [16:26:08] bawolff: I am, yes. [16:27:19] Feature, not a bug? [16:27:26] :-P [16:32:08] Hi there, I'd like to do "Pseudo-code" in tags - according to Sourceforce support was added in 2011 for the language "Pseudo-code" (which is where I'm copying and pasting it from, "pseudo" ;) ) - but it doesn't work [16:32:18] I'd like line numbers and such you see, is there a language for "none"? [16:33:07] according to sourceforge? [16:33:08] i think it will show you a list of all "languages" if you don't provide one [16:33:25] (or maybe only if you provide an invalid one) [16:33:52] Reedy: it's an old patch and the GeShi project used to be there [16:34:00] MatMa yeah it's not in that. [16:34:16] I just want no syntax highlighting (which it isn't - no regex matching colour coding :P ) [16:34:47] You could just use 
[16:34:50] 	 There's even a whitespace language
[16:34:57] 	 bawolff: I'd prefer not to but that is my fallback
[16:39:39] 	 Anyone willing to mock up one that highlights a few things if I give you the regex? I'll pay for your time (it'll be quicker than me doing it to have someone familiar with it)
[16:47:36] 	 PM me if so please - it's a very simple language 
[17:01:11] 	 Alec: FYI, SyntaxHighlight uses the Pygments library for highlighting (written in Python), that might make such a customization easier or harder to make ;)
[17:01:58] 	 Matma - my install is pure PHP - so GeSHI
[17:02:05] 	 BTW "text" works
[17:02:38] 	 I've just made a template to sub in the name (so I can have text for now, and change all of it later when / if I get a lexer for this) using the #tag parser function - all is well :)
[17:03:32] 	 But the offer above still stands
[17:07:57] 	 There's a page somewhere  on mediawiki.org listing people who do MW support for money
[17:09:33] 	 bawolff: I can write one myself if it comes to it, I just wanted to give someone familiar with it a chance to save me time for it - and if it's someone who works on mediawiki (ie you lot) I'd be happy to pay extra as a thank you for that work - rather than going to someone with no affiliation with it.
[17:10:39] 	 That sounds like a copout but I'm putting £450 in a pot each month and trying to spend it on the software I use (full open source hippy here) - ESPECIALLY on people not paid to work on their project, for example dstat, htop, probably a few in here - I'm on the fence about the PHP people ... part of me thinks that they owe me :P
[17:11:18] 	 lol
[17:11:25] 	 I'm serious, FWIW. 
[17:11:46] 	 (i'm laughing at the php owes you)
[17:11:51] 	 GCC is an example of a well staffed project, most of the people there are full-timers
[17:12:12] 	 WMF employees quite a few people in this channel (including me)
[17:12:21] 	 Oh right yeah... don't get me started on that. The rant will end when I pop a blood vessel in my neck
[17:12:49] 	 Yeah well I'm trying. 
[17:13:01] 	 It has proven surprisingly difficult
[17:14:01] 	 I appreciate the sentiment though
[17:17:23] 	 bawolff: if you have any suggestions BTW do tell. I take SO MUCH for granted and I'm missing so many tools I use
[17:17:24] 	 Alec: syntaxhighlight doesn't use GeSHi anymore, it uses Pygment
[17:17:33] 	 which I see that MatmaRex already said
[17:17:35] 	 Hello, how can i transclude a Talk page onto a Main Namespace page
[17:17:36] 	 Skizzerz: asked and answered ^
[17:17:39] * Skizzerz needs to check his reading comprehenshion
[17:17:41] 	 and spleling
[17:18:07] 	 Skizzerz: more likely you just didn't read more than my initial post - don't doubt your reading abilities so fast! :P
[17:18:09] 	 kevindank: {{Talk:Pagename}}?
[17:19:05] 	 {{Talk:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}
[17:19:10] 	 that does not work
[17:19:34] 	 just shows the  full url of the current pages talk page
[17:19:57] 	 bawolff: let me know yeah?
[17:20:56] 	 kevindank: {{{{TALKPAGENAME}}}}
[17:20:57] 	 To explain further what im trying to do...im using the Flow Extension on Talk Pages and would like to show a flow within a page
[17:21:02] 	 oh
[17:21:05] 	 that won't work with flow
[17:21:10] 	 :(
[17:21:15] 	 flow does things completely differently, and the content is not stored on the talk page itself
[17:21:26] 	 iframe?
[17:21:30] 	 you could use a js gadget with an iframe
[17:21:44] 	 otherwise I don't think mediawiki has support for transcluding pages with different content models built-in
[17:21:45] 	 okay cool, happen to have any direction on how i can do that?
[17:21:58] 	 It depends on the content model
[17:22:19] 	 Its something that extensions which have other content models are allowed to support or not support
[17:22:49] 	 There was a really hacky solution on project:support_desk a couple days ago about using scary interwiki transclude on the current site to do stuff like that
[17:29:55] 	 I don't understand how the limits for the revisions API work... https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&generator=allrevisions&garvnamespace=0&garvprop=ids&garvlimit=500&export
[17:30:33] 	 I ask 50 and I get 8, I ask 500 and I get 72. Is it because the limit applies to the number before the filtering by namespace, or what?
[17:33:54] 	 yes
[17:34:19] 	 Ok. If I want to export all revisions, then, maybe I shouldn't filter by namespace.
[17:35:50] 	 There is a note in the help IIRC that says generators may result in less results
[17:39:05] 	 I might have read such a note 10 years ago but I don't find it now. No problem anyway as long as the continuation works. :) 
[18:05:06] 	 Nemo_bis: Just wait until you get multiple bunches of 0 results :P
[18:15:30] 	 Im using Page Forms to create a page which uses a Template:News  i want all pages that use that template to hide page title
[18:15:34] 	 how can i do that?
[19:41:04] 	 Found a strange bug I don't even know how to describe. After a couple seconds, "Translation of the wiki page Category:Help" changes to say "Translation of the wiki page "Keep me logged in" extended to one year"
[19:41:09] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Category%3AHelp&action=page&filter=&language=en
[19:41:49] 	 huh
[19:42:27] 	 total guess, something to do with the quote in the latter's article title
[19:48:02] 	 djr013: it looks like it loads the title of the first (alphabetically) translateable page on the wiki, in this case, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/"Keep_me_logged_in"_extended_to_one_year
[19:48:10] 	 instead of the title of the page you're viewing
[19:48:36] 	 and it is after several seconds because that's how long it takes to get the list of all translateable pages, which it accidentally does ;)
[19:50:36] 	 nice, I was looking at that last get request in my browser inspector but hit a wall there
[19:52:07] 	 djr013: do you want to report the bug in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ or should i do it?
[19:56:25] 	 I was looking to see if it might've already been filed but as I said I wasn't even sure how to describe it :)
[19:56:43] 	 If you're up for it I'd be thankful
[20:03:56] 	 djr013: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194079
[20:07:00] 	 great, thanks!
[21:13:07] 	 Guys I am at a loss. I have a MediaWiki installation that, when accessing a page with an Infobox, spends ~15 seconds loading. Profiler says about 80-90% of the pages load time is spent on the Scribunto call Scribunto_LuaEngine::executeFunctionChunk. I am at a loss how to figure out why. It doesn't spit out any errors at all.
[21:14:40] 	 what lua codeare you running there=
[21:14:41] 	 ?
[21:14:51] 	 maybe it's just slow code?
[21:15:50] 	 It's Module:Infobox only, and its requirement, the Navbar
[21:16:09] 	 copied from enwiki?
[21:16:30] 	 yup
[21:16:31] 	 if you copied templates from wikipedia and those templates are interacting with wikidata, the slowness may be from wikidata queries (I'm not sure if that would be the case, since connecting with wikidata would be troublesome outside of WMF wikis)
[21:17:05] 	 Hm. Well the only stuff I have copied, are the two modules. I wrote the template myself but perhaps...
[21:17:12] 	 I expect wikidata roundtrips would slow it a lot
[21:17:38] 	 also, what runs fast at wikimedia, may not do so elsewhere
[21:17:50] 	 how are you running lua?
[21:18:08] 	 Using the standalone bundled. The machine runs IIS so the sandbox isn't an option.
[21:18:22] 	 How would I go about finding out if wikidata trips are making it slow?
[21:18:52] 	 IIS... that may be the problem. Invoking the Lua binary could be slow there
[21:19:15] 	 and the standalone binary will be slower, too
[21:19:58] 	 I gathered that, yeah, but THAT much slower? A page request without an infobox takes ~half a second or so
[21:20:28] 	 If you don't remember configuring things for wikidata, you can be safe to assume your wiki is not using wikidata at all. I've never looked how it works, but I'm pretty sure configuring it would be difficult and you'll recall having done it
[21:21:58] 	 it would need configuring
[21:22:40] 	 Yeah, now that you mention it I remember looking at it and not bothering to add any of that.
[21:22:53] 	 Sorry, been a long day already so kinda braindead
[21:23:58] 	 Does lua spike in task manager?
[21:26:29] 	 hmm
[21:26:31] 	 luasandbox can work on Windows I think, but you'd have to compile it manually (and compiling a php extension on windows is *not* an easy or particularly fast process)
[21:27:26] 	 Nah it sits on under 1% cpu and ~2mb ram
[21:27:37] 	 Yeah that is what I am kind of not wanting to do either :P
[21:29:33] 	 It is definitely lua though, the process starts shortly after you request the page, and then sits there for 12 seconds or more before the page is served just as it closes