[00:41:47] <bawolff>	 Anyone want to code review - Disallow loading JS/CSS/Json subpages from unregistered users and log [core] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/433094  - I'd kind of like to get that merged sooner rather than later
[00:43:39] * legoktm clicks
[03:08:29] <GauchoDude>	 Hello, friends! I am looking for assistance in trying to make the categories on my personal Wiki populate.
[03:12:58] <bawolff>	 GauchoDude: Usually if its not working, that points to a job queue issue
[03:13:01] <bawolff>	 !jobqueue
[03:13:01] <wm-bot>	 The Job Queue is a way for mediawiki to run large update jobs in the background. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue
[03:14:17] <fou>	 what os do you recoment use with mediawiki?
[03:17:19] <GauchoDude>	 @bawolff How do I remedy this? I'm not as familiar with the coding aspect of everything, but I've managed to self-install a working version of a personal wiki.
[03:18:04] <bawolff>	 fou: Linux is best supported, but others should work to. If you want a specific variant of linux, I would suggest debian, but they all should work pretty much equally as well
[03:18:08] <GauchoDude>	 @fou I'm not sure if there's a recommended one, but I think based on a lot of the explanations a lot may run off of Linux or a Windows-based operating systep
[03:19:00] <bawolff>	 Windows tends to be a little bit less well tested
[03:19:55] <bawolff>	 GauchoDude: Could you try running runJobs.php from the command line to see if that fixes it (See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RunJobs.php for details). If it does fix it, we know its a job queue issue and can go from there. If it doesn't fix it, then we know its something other than job queue
[03:21:21] <GauchoDude>	 @bawolff To where would I input that? For reference, I'm running on a Windows-based system and XAMPP
[03:21:33] <bawolff>	 Oh in, windows its a tad harder
[03:22:40] <GauchoDude>	 @bawolff Story of my life
[03:23:38] <bawolff>	 GauchoDude: So you can do it by opening a command prompt window, going to the mediawiki/maintinance directory, and running php runJobs.php. But often this is complicated by php usually not being in your path on windows
[03:24:13] <bawolff>	 GauchoDude: Instead, maybe just set $wgJobRunRate = 10; in LocalSettings.php and then browse around a little bit to see if that fixes it
[03:24:32] <GauchoDude>	 @bawolff That I can do. Give me a moment.
[03:25:19] <bawolff>	 GauchoDude: You could also check the number of jobs pending at api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics on your wiki
[03:30:33] <GauchoDude>	 Apologies for the delay. The coding attempt did not seem to fix the issue of Category pages not populating. Looking at the statistics page you sent, it shows 976 jobs. I am unsure if that is a pending number.
[03:38:03] <bawolff>	 Yeah, that's a high number. It might indicate MW is encountering some error when trying to process the jobs. If you make a couple random edits, does the number go down, or stay the same?
[03:38:31] <GauchoDude>	 I will attempt, give me a moment.
[03:40:52] <GauchoDude>	 I made two random edits to one page. Jobs went from 976 to 862.
[03:49:37] <bawolff>	 Ok, so its probably just  a bit of a backlog.
[03:49:54] <bawolff>	 You could try setting $wgJobRunRate even higher temporarily to clear the backlog
[03:51:21] <GauchoDude>	 Assuming the backlog eventually hits 0, A. will that populate the categories and B. will that coding line stay in LocalSettings.php forever?
[04:00:49] <GauchoDude>	 Hello again, @bawolff. Reducing the jobs to 0 did populate the categories so thank you for that fix. Moving forward, will that coding line remain in LocalSettings.php forever or was that a workaround? What are common causes for such a large job backup?
[04:01:26] <fou>	 thank you GauchoDude
[04:01:27] <bawolff>	 GauchoDude: Probably you want it higher than what you had originally, but not as high as we had set it
[04:01:46] <bawolff>	 Maybe $wgJobRunRate = 3;
[04:02:08] <bawolff>	 If you set it to too high a number, then some requests might take a long time
[04:02:31] <GauchoDude>	 It was not originally a line in LocalSettings.php for some reason. To my knowledge, I didn't remove it.
[04:02:33] <bawolff>	 The best solution is to have the script set up as a scheduled task, but that's more complicated
[04:03:01] <bawolff>	 If its not in LocalSettings.php, then it uses the default value which is 1
[04:03:47] <fou>	 GauchoDude do you know how to install visual editor?
[04:04:32] <GauchoDude>	 I could probably figure it out, but I'm much more familiar utilizing the Wiki-mark ups and prefer to write in that code if that's what you're refering to?
[04:05:24] <fou>	 really so that would be faster be best to use media wiki your saying ?
[04:53:40] <bawolff>	 !visualeditor
[04:53:41] <wm-bot>	 VisualEditor is a project to create a simple editor for MediaWiki that would make it far simpler for people to contribute to Wikimedia projects. See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor and #mediawiki-visualeditor channel.
[04:53:48] <bawolff>	 for some docs around it, if you were looking
[04:53:56] <bawolff>	 non-tech users do seem to really like VE
[04:54:07] <bawolff>	 tech users seem to dislike WYSIWYG in general
[04:55:59] <fou>	 ok ok
[13:42:14] <Nikerabbit>	 freephile: is it back up now?
[13:45:46] <kevindank>	 Im using the DynamicPageList3 extension to display a list of pages (countries),  i want to also display an image from those pages (a flag) does anyone have a suggestion on how i can get dpl3 to display an image from a page?
[13:48:10] <Nikerabbit>	 kevindank: I don't know about DPL3, but perhaps you might want to check out Semantic MediaWiki that allows queries and different result formats
[13:49:05] <kevindank>	 Nikerabbit: im using smw and page forms currently...however it wont allow me to do the query that im attempting to do with page forms where as dpl allows me to
[13:49:17] <kevindank>	 specifically the linksto parameter
[13:52:03] <Nikerabbit>	 really? I would imagine something like format=template and template being [[File:{{{1}}}|link={{{2}}}] to create a clickable flag
[14:10:09] <kevindank>	 Nikerabbit: so a different scenario, I created a form called Contributor Profile, on Contributor Profile page it has a field called Company and a field called Logo and a field called Contributing Countries.  On each Country Page, i have an area called Contributors, I want to display all Companies that have that specific Country Page linked in the Contributing Countries field and also display a logo next to that company
[14:10:59] <kevindank>	 I wasnt able to determine how to use the inline query to display users who have a country linked using the contributing countries field, but i do know that pageforms allows me to use template= to display an additional template
[14:13:39] <Nikerabbit>	 that sounds a bit complicated to explain over IRC
[14:14:31] <kevindank>	 it is
[14:16:00] <Nikerabbit>	 so your subjects are contributors, on your country page you would query contributors [[Country::X]] and display properties ?Company | ?Logo
[14:16:10] <Nikerabbit>	 or is this completely incorrect understanding?
[14:20:46] <kevindank>	 Nikerabbit: so the template is here: https://pastebin.com/tQfwCBqv  i want to use this somehow to display within a given country {{FULLPAGENAME}} the Page title of the form (organization name) with the logo/avatar field displayed next to it
[14:21:02] <kevindank>	 the country name would be defined based off the field contributing countries
[14:21:38] <kevindank>	 which is a token....i figured the easiest way to do this would be in my inline query display results that link to {{fullpagename}}
[14:22:30] <kevindank>	 so if i fill out that form and list canada as a contributing country, on the page canada it would show me as a contributor based off the page name of the form submission and also my avatar/logo
[14:23:35] <kevindank>	 since i wasnt able to figure out how to do that with an inline query i tried to use dpl 3 and this was the simple example...https://pastebin.com/dTU7rQzK although it tells me the template does not exist even though i created it.
[14:25:10] <Nikerabbit>	 I am not sure what is the difference between Has country and Has contributing countries
[14:27:06] <Nikerabbit>	 I would suppose a simple {{#ask: [[Has contributing country::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]| ?Logo | .... }} would do it, but I assume there is some complication I have missed
[14:27:09] <kevindank>	 has country  is the users country of origin...so i can list that i am from the united states.   contributing countries asks which countries do you plan to contributing documentation to
[14:30:49] <kevindank>	 that looks like what im trying to do...i have a template called countries that is used on all country pages...i.e. Ireland,Canada.   I pasted that snippet you just shared in there and it should display a list of contributors that use that country in contributing country and there logo, however it is displaying blank
[14:31:39] <kevindank>	 https://www.ipdocketengine.com/index.php?title=Algeria#tab=Contributors
[14:31:46] <kevindank>	 outputs it into a table which is nice though
[14:36:39] <kevindank>	 so the only thing it is not doing is actually displaying the logo
[15:17:24] <legoktm>	 freephile: there was network maintenance on Cloud VPS this morning, there's going to be another short outage later today I think
[15:41:08] <kevindank>	 NikeRabbit: Figured it out using PageForms, thank you
[15:47:13] <fleg[m]1>	 Hi all, sorry for re-posting this, i have still to makle progress. any help apprecited!
[15:47:14] <fleg[m]1>	 I use mw 1.30.0 with the translate extension. German is our base language, but the strings for the menu are somehow stuck in the english version.
[15:47:15] <fleg[m]1>	 i tried clearing cache, emptied the Mediawiki:Sidebar, disabled cache, touch LocalSettings, etc… nothing brings up the original german strings in the translation page. Here´s the link to the translation interface: http://dein-lastenrad.de/index.php?title=Spezial:%C3%9Cbersetzen&filter=translated&group=wiki-sidebar&language=en&action=proofread
[15:54:20] <andre__>	 fleg[m]1: which specific example string do you expect to be in German but it is in English, and where to see that example string in the UI?
[17:42:58] <fleg[m]1>	 andre__: http://files.fleg.de/mediawiki-CEJ2lxK0Mq/ left side should be german.
[17:47:04] <fleg[m]1>	 andre__: i do the following: 1. delete the all text in mediawiki:sidebar & MediaWiki:Sidebar-messages. 2. Check the translation interface, strings have gone. 3. Re-add strings in both files. 4. Check translation interface: strings on the left (which should be german, since that´s the source lang) are english. 
[19:44:17] <niso>	 hi, there is an option to get the amount of rows returned from #cargo_query without count(*) (maybe something with #arraydefine and so on)?
[20:32:37] <justinl>	 Hey all, I'm trying to determine the best way to insert GoogleTagManager <script> code into my wikis, but the GoogleTagManager extension looks deprecated and the googleAnalytics extension recommends the HeadScript extension, which looks seriously dated and hackish. Suggestions?
[20:35:17] <Platonides>	 there must be a better way, indeed…
[20:39:15] <justinl>	 I found https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29902768/how-to-add-custom-global-javascript-to-mediawiki which suggests using $wgResourceModules, but that feels even hackier and fragile.
[20:40:11] <Platonides>	 that would be the way to go
[20:40:17] <Platonides>	 albeit that might be overkill…
[20:41:01] <justinl>	 I've never messed with resource loader stuff, guess I need to delve into it if I want to go that route, just to make sure I know what the heck I'm break...er...doing
[20:54:23] <niso>	 hi, there is an option to get the amount of rows returned from #cargo_query without count(*) (maybe something with #arraydefine and so on)?
[20:54:39] <niso>	 or any other creative way?:S
[20:54:53] <niso>	 i use query with groupby that wh y i cant use count(*)
[20:57:57] <CindyCicaleseWMF>	 niso: you could use Lua, which would give you more control over the result: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Other_features#Lua_support
[20:58:39] <niso>	 yea knows that, trying to avoid it atm because it require to install the extension so im looking for a "nativa" solution
[21:23:22] <mvaenskae>	 cheers, anyone having experience here in two subjects; migrating an old mediawiki instance from a VM to a docker container (my container runs and thanks to your help ldap works!) and moving from a normal storage based approach to s3 for storing "datablobs" (whatever those encompass in mediawiki, i would love to read up but so many projects D:)
[21:23:37] <mvaenskae>	 i would be looking for some documentation on good approaches as to what needs to be taken care of in either case and what steps should all be followed
[21:59:13] <freephile>	 nikerabbit: legoktm: was afk.  Works now from here. Thanks!