[01:18:08] Hi. I'm an admin on Appropedia, having trouble with my skin. When I log in, I'm stuck in mobile view for the Vector skin, on all devices. (This means I can't access "delete" & "block" options). I've tried: Switching skins in preferences (failed - the only option is Vector). Asking other admins (no one else has this problem). Blanking all my userspace pages ending in .js or .css. Clicking "Desktop" at bottom of page (still [01:18:53] I just want one functional desktop view. Any advice appreciated. [01:18:58] Thanks! [01:19:00] OH! I KNOW! [01:19:44] Temporarily remove MinervaNeue and Minerva from $wgSkipSkins. Then you can change your preference back to Vector. Then add them back to $wgSkipSkins. :D [01:20:22] This is a strange preferences bug that occurs. Since Vector is the default it skips saving it for your preferences since it can not "see" that your preference is for the mobile skin. [01:21:30] Alternatively there is a maintenance script to force fix everyone on the wiki. [01:22:15] Trela: thanks. I would have to ask our sysop to do that (I'm a regular admin) and he's away on a business trip. Is there any other way for now, or just wait till he's back? [01:22:36] (I thought there was a way to import another skin, as a regular user. But I can't find it.) [01:22:39] Nope. :/ You are stuck unless you have server access. [01:22:55] Okay, thanks for the clarification [01:25:34] One of our problems is that we don't have much money for a proper dev. Hope to fix that soon, but in the meantime, it helps to have clear answers to give our sysop. [01:25:41] And simple fixes [01:26:13] It's weird that I only have one skin option in my preferences. If we fixed that, I imagine I could just use another skin and desktop mode would work in that? [01:29:23] (I mean, that would be a sysop job too, but I thought it might be an easy one.) [02:13:42] I have to log off, so I won't see further replies. Thank you Trela - I've passed on the instructions. [13:12:20] the textbox which we write our translations in it in https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate should be RTL for RTL languages(Arabic, Persian, Hebrew, ...) [14:30:27] Oh, did I have to post that in #wikimedia-dev? [14:31:31] shangul: here is ok [14:31:49] Hey, do I know you? [14:31:57] yes ;) [14:31:59] oh woffle... [14:32:29] lemme see if there's a phab task for that already [14:33:44] shangul: do you have a link to a particular page that shows the issue (it's probably not a page-specific thing but I'm rather lazy so having a link with the full details in Special:Translate would help for reporting it) [14:34:42] nvm found it [14:34:58] okay [14:35:30] is your interface language an RTL language or is your interface language English? [14:35:33] when the target language is RTL, the textbox and other texts in that language should be RTL, too [14:35:51] Skizzerz, English [14:35:58] that's the problem then [14:36:12] the general LTR/RTL settings are based on interface language [14:36:15] it shouldn't be like this. [14:36:17] it's something to report for sure [14:36:22] but that's why you're seeing it [14:36:32] as a workaround, you can set the interface language to whatever you're translating to [14:36:52] easiest way to do that is to add &uselang=xx to the URL [14:36:57] where xx is the language code you're translating to [14:37:05] otherwise you can flip it in Special:Preferences [14:37:28] and I should do this till they fix the problem [14:37:58] unless you find another workaround, that's all I can think of [14:38:07] although, should be possible to write a Gadget to flip it as well [14:38:36] Will you report this? Or Is reporting in this channel enough? [14:38:55] I'm grabbing stuff for a report, I'll give you a link in a couple of minutes [14:39:22] hmm [14:39:33] weird, after flipping to uselang and back the textbox is properly RTL [14:39:54] ... including on LTR languages [14:40:51] yes it is [14:41:10] that's why textbox's text direction should depend on the target language than uselang [14:41:18] no, I mean [14:41:24] I did uselang=he to flip to RTL [14:41:31] and then when I went back to English interface, it was still RTL [14:41:40] even if I picked an LTR langauge to translate to (such as German) [14:41:48] there is something very screwy here [14:43:43] How could I translate the interface of this page and mediawiki itself? [14:44:09] not sure what you mean by that [14:45:38] nothing, I'll ask it later [14:51:45] shangul: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198112 [14:52:19] feel free to add a comment if you have any additional notes/thoughts [14:52:22] Good [14:52:24] Thanks [14:52:31] for doing my job... [17:29:43] estimated, know a gadget to add a "personal test area" link along with discussion and preferences? [20:21:08] Is there any way to align a column of cells in a table relative to their decimal points (e.g. in a table containing monetary values)? [20:25:47] sure, if you show as many decimals for all values and right-align them [20:25:59] seems like it should be possible, but no idea about mediawiki [20:36:06] are page names case sensitive as in I can create a page "Test" and "TEst" that would be both different pages, or is that not possible? [20:36:34] I know it's no on Wikipedia, but is that default setting, or simply hard-coded behaviour? [20:38:01] Halian: is that supported in HTML? [20:39:07] petan: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Case_sensitivity_of_page_names [20:39:11] (maybe) [20:45:39] andre__: no idea :( [20:46:10] petan: they can, there is a setting for that [20:46:46] petan: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCapitalLinks [20:55:36] Halian: because if HTML cannot, how should MediaWiki? :P [21:01:00] I already said I have no idea >~< [21:05:09] Halian: have two columns or put the integral part in one and the decimal in another and then use CSS to align them and fix the spacing between them [21:05:23] there's no built-in way of doing it so you have to hack around it by doing stuff like that [21:21:25] Blarg