[00:05:02] <Ursula>	 That's how most of MediaWiki development feels. ^_^
[01:28:10] <Volund>	 whew. Now the question is, how do I now display this data in formats besides tables...
[01:33:58] <Volund>	 hmmmm.... if I have a lot of good string functions, I can just use weird delimiters, I suppose
[01:34:07] <Volund>	 uhh... let's see...
[01:34:38] <Volund>	 well I guess I'll just write this in my command style and then you guys can point me in a good direction. :)
[02:34:20] <Mario-WL>	 Hi there! I am a mediawiki user and have installed version 1.31.0 from scratch today.. AND I need some desperate help, sadly. :(
[02:35:07] <Mario-WL>	 It seems to me that the Recent Changes are... not working? Like, NOT working at all. Does not show a normal edit, doesnt show template edits....... whats wrong?? On older versions RC was working just perfectly fine. :( Can someone please help me?
[02:44:22] <okdana>	 like it's a new database and everything?
[02:44:56] <Mario-WL>	 Yes
[02:45:14] <Mario-WL>	 Absolutely everything is freshly installed with 1.31.0 from the groundup.
[02:46:10] <okdana>	 hm
[02:46:40] <okdana>	 maybe one of the maintenance scripts can help
[02:48:05] <Mario-WL>	 hmmm..... okay?^^'
[02:53:07] <okdana>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ShowJobs.php maybe
[02:53:16] <okdana>	 see if there's something interesting there
[02:53:54] <Mario-WL>	 "showJobs.php file is a maintenance script to report the number of jobs currently waiting in master database." -> but what do I do with the number of jobs when I know it?
[02:55:24] <okdana>	 see if there are recentChangesUpdate jobs sitting there
[02:57:38] <Volund>	 are there functions like {{#foreach: <textblob> | <delimiter> | <expression to evaluate>}}
[02:57:59] <Volund>	 something like that anyways
[02:59:14] <Mario-WL>	 Oh God I dont get it.. why would RC ever wait to update itself? It never did that before
[02:59:31] <Mario-WL>	 I will go to bed now and try that tomorrow... thank you! :(
[02:59:48] <Mario-WL>	 in our 1.29.0 wiki everything is perfect
[03:00:47] <Volund>	 looks like Extension:StringFunctions gives #explode which is equal to my MUShcode elements()... now I still need a way to iterate...
[03:11:25] <Volund>	 hmmmmmm
[03:13:03] <Volund>	 screw it, writing my own
[03:16:25] <okdana>	 that seems like the kind of thing scribunto was made for
[07:39:29] <okdana>	 enhanced rc looks really bad when transcluded
[07:44:10] <Volund>	 my next project is going to be a humdinger, okdana
[07:44:20] <Volund>	 https://exalted.mushhaven.com/index.php?title=Characters
[07:44:35] <Volund>	 I now have ExternalData doing exactly what I want, links forming, exactly. it's great. :D
[07:44:47] <Volund>	 but now I need to have a Character Page that responds to clicking on those names with that ID...
[07:44:53] <Volund>	 ... and uh
[07:45:41] <Volund>	 Up until now, I've been displaying TABLES. Now I need to figure out how to do this: https://i.imgur.com/WRyOQxl.png
[07:47:26] <okdana>	 you might be interested in scribunto's html thing
[07:48:39] * Volund brings up the Extension and reads
[07:51:45] * Volund uploading...
[08:07:04] <Volund>	 hm.
[08:07:18] <Volund>	 that's great for doing some pretty cool shenanigans but...
[08:07:31] <Volund>	 I'm not sure how to do SQL shenanigans with it.
[08:17:14] <Volund>	 yeah I don't think that's going to do what I want it to do
[08:20:32] <okdana>	 i guess the extension you're using doesn't offer an easy way to get data into a module
[08:30:36] <Volund>	 yeah I'm using ExternalData
[08:30:54] <Volund>	 which seems to be the -only- extension for pulling data from another source, but...
[08:41:54] <Volund>	 hm
[08:58:20] <Volund>	 and I'm not sure how to run the queries from my extension... blargh
[09:02:09] * Volund brings up Category:Database_extensions. there's gotta be SOMETHING in here
[09:11:46] <Volund>	 Nope, Cargo's of no help at all
[09:14:52] <Volund>	 hm. scribunto kinda has the potential to do what I want, but how do I make it secure...
[10:54:02] <sveta>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Map/8/51.505/-0.126/en   Are you sure the map is not supposed to be interactive here?
[11:01:53] <andre__>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug
[12:54:06] <davidwbarratt>	 If someone could review this patch that would be fantastic! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages/+/449177
[14:49:29] <Volund>	 so when I'm using ExternalData's #for_external_table I cannot seem to call any Parser Functions like my {{#mushparse:}} because of its </nowiki>...
[14:52:44] <Volund>	 https://exalted.mushhaven.com/index.php?title=Log_Page&action=edit
[14:52:54] <Volund>	 down here in the #for_external_table I have this line
[14:52:59] <Volund>	 {{!}} class="LogCell" {{!}} {{{actionText}}}
[14:53:13] <Volund>	 I want to call {{#mushparse:}} on that {{{actionText}}} but it's a no-go. :( how do
[14:54:41] <Skizzerz>	 just take out the nowiki?
[14:57:21] <Skizzerz>	 (note I've never used that extension, so idk how it actually works behind-the-scenes; but if you added the <nowiki> in yourself then you can try just removing it and seeing if everything works)
[14:58:16] <Skizzerz>	 if the extension is automatically adding in the nowiki (perhaps to escape untrusted external data), then put your call inside of your row definition instead of in the external data source
[16:16:08] <HelloKittySoft>	 hiii
[16:16:17] <HelloKittySoft>	 i came here 2 ask about page previews
[16:16:20] <HelloKittySoft>	 im running a new wiki
[16:16:22] <HelloKittySoft>	 and would like to enable them
[16:16:32] <MatmaRex>	 hi
[16:16:32] <HelloKittySoft>	 https://i.imgur.com/qWAdWmS.png
[16:16:40] <HelloKittySoft>	 i dont have the option to enable them on the prefrences page
[16:16:51] <andre__>	 Is the extension installed?
[16:17:26] <andre__>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Popups
[16:17:30] <HelloKittySoft>	 o.. i c
[16:17:31] <HelloKittySoft>	 thank you :D
[16:18:58] <HelloKittySoft>	 any other must-have extensions?
[16:36:18] <HelloKittySoft>	 :D?
[16:47:55] <HelloKittySoft>	 :D?!?!
[16:51:47] <MatmaRex>	 some of the extensions bundled with the installer might be useful for you: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bundled_extensions_and_skins#Extensions
[16:51:47] <andre__>	 Do you want to actually express something?
[16:51:55] <andre__>	 Ah.
[16:56:02] <HelloKittySoft>	 o nice
[20:05:44] <ornj>	 can someone help me with css for the vector skin or should i ask elsewhere?
[20:07:02] <rom1504>	 depends
[20:07:10] <ornj>	 haha ok
[20:07:39] <ornj>	 basically i want to switch the fonts used for section headings + for page (paragraph) text
[20:09:00] <ornj>	 so i want mw-headline to be the typeface that is now used for article text and that serif typeface used for headings to be used for text
[20:09:10] <ornj>	 ...because i've seen newspapers before.
[20:09:16] <ornj>	 and that makes sense, right?
[20:32:51] <Volund>	 Skizzerz: I believe the Nowiki is there because of how #for_external_table evaluates
[20:44:33] <Volund>	 if I take out nowiki then the #for_external_table stops processing properly.. hmmm
[20:44:40] <Volund>	 I'll try a few things though
[20:54:38] <Volund>	 I think that my best shot at making this work is
[20:57:13] <Volund>	 I need an alternate site that can generate pre-formatted JSON or XML or something and have Mediawiki query THAT
[21:36:43] <revansx[m]>	 can someone take a peek at my Session Expiration Notification javascript and help me figure out how to get the notification pop-up to be on top of the Visual Editor
[21:36:44] <revansx[m]>	 ```can someone take a peek at my Session Expiration Notification javascript```
[21:41:00] <revansx[m]>	 Can someone take a peek at my Session Expiration Notification javascript and help me figure out how to get the notification pop-up to be on top of the Visual Editor. Here's the link to the code:
[21:41:01] <revansx[m]>	 ```https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Revansx/Session_Notification_of_Renewal```
[21:41:39] <revansx[m]>	 Can someone take a peek at my Session Expiration Notification javascript and help me figure out how to get the notification pop-up to be on top of the Visual Editor. Here's the link to the code:
[21:41:40] <revansx[m]>	 ```https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Revansx/Session_Notification_of_Renewal```
[21:41:42] <tgr>	 revansx[m]: z-index, probably?
[21:42:07] <revansx[m]>	 right.. 
[21:42:35] <revansx[m]>	 (not sure why the code formatting isn't working on riot for me.. sorry for all the deleted messages
[21:42:58] <revansx[m]>	 Can someone take a peek at my Session Expiration Notification javascript and help me figure out how to get the notification pop-up to be on top of the Visual Editor. Here's the link to the code:
[21:42:59] <revansx[m]>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Revansx/Session_Notification_of_Renewal
[21:48:55] <revansx[m]>	 tgr, any advice on what value to set z-Index to?
[21:55:39] <tgr>	 1000 is the convntional one
[21:55:48] <tgr>	 or 9999999
[22:04:43] <revansx[m]>	 i set the z-index of my javascript div to 3000 and then 9999999 .. and no joy on either.. it seems that the scope of the z-index property is only on positioned elements.. and it seems that the div element that i'm defining is contained in some other mediawiki construct.
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[22:11:01] <revansx[m]>	 it also seems that my notification is a general notification, maybe the problem would solve itself if I could make it a true 'edit notification' like the approved revision pop-up (shown above)
[22:27:52] <revansx[m]>	 ```https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Revansx/Session_Notification_of_Renewal```
[22:32:38] <okdana>	 if notifications don't automatically appear above other stuff on the page that seems like an issue with the notification system
[22:39:19] <revansx[m]>	 that sounds reasonable to me, but i'm not qualified to affirm that.