[00:09:25] Okay when are you going to update mediawiki to have consistent whitespace handling? [00:09:26] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Col-break#Template-protected_edit_request_on_1_August_2018 [00:09:57] The templates here break due to a single line feed between two templates when building a table with templates [00:10:59] Somehow as a contributor I'm supposed to know all the quirks [00:11:05] This is not reasonable [00:12:28] saper: opensearch plugin, although i agree that it may be a bit annoying to use it for page creations as opposed to searches [01:22:02] the white-space situation is bothersome [01:22:14] bit over-the-top tho [06:44:48] Sveta: in the old days, opensearch plugin was just a simple file that gives URLs and the patterns, is this still the case? [06:46:25] Yes. [09:37:40] Hello and Big Thanks, Thanks, Thanks for the most awesome wiki engine in the Laniakaea Supercluster [09:38:16] I'm occasionally error "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data.". I'm logged in and the Mediawiki is 1.31.0 [09:38:47] Hitting on the "save" button again always resolves it in one go [10:01:02] are you using object caching? [10:08:57] guess that problem was fixed actually, idk [11:13:17] Sveta: you can use index.php?title=... format for page creation as well [11:14:06] jubo2: as the message says, it's some kind of session loss [11:14:16] hard to tell more without details [11:14:50] tgr: yep, https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foo+bar&editintro=Main_Page&action=edit works beautifully [11:14:50] could be short session timeout, cookie handling problems, the session store losing data etc [11:14:54] tgr: thanks :) [11:15:38] okdana: how do I check if I'm using caching [11:18:12] sessions always use object cache in 1.27 and later [11:20:41] tgr: ok thanks for info .. there are many possible object caches if I remember right? [11:21:30] My wiki has been running since Phase III so some of the "How did I configure that?"-info has gone to oblivion [11:21:42] yeah, typically it's DB or memcache or some kind of opcode cache like APC [11:23:26] jubo2: I'd look at $wgObjectCacheSessionExpiry first, that's the easiest thing to change [11:24:23] if it's a backend problem, maybe your cache is full and evicting objects before they expire, but that will be way more effort to debug [11:24:42] all is on one server [11:29:15] I would like the wiki to be faster.. Checked it with https://gtmetrix.com/reports/develop.consumerium.org/aZInJBcj and it seems to say the biggest issues I could improve on are gzip-compression and leveraging broweser caching [11:29:37] those are set in Apache conf, right? [11:31:40] I gonna take a snapshot of the system disk and make backups now and then try to tinker with the confs to improve the performance [11:33:32] jubo2: could be set in apache, more typical for the software (MediaWiki) to manage it [11:34:01] well, depends whether it's about the HTML files or other assets [11:34:07] tgr: ok.. I gonna look for info on mediawiki.org [11:34:43] the gtmetrix.com test recommends setting expiry for images and other static content and also enabling gzipping [12:09:52] jubo2: that's probably apache, although it depends on your wiki config (e.g. do you use a 404 handler for serving images?) [12:39:15] I am currently using the Cite extension to provide references but find it really cumbersome as the number of references grows (and for maintaining consistency between entries). I am looking at various extensions but not very sure. SemanticCite seems to be the only one allowing the import and use of bibtex across the wiki. What do people use these days? [20:44:15] I'm having a problem where some of my wikipages are available through restbase, yet others are not. I don't see a specific pattern either to which ones will return some data. [20:44:36] This one is not retrievable: http://joshuarosales.com:7231/localhost/v1/page/html/Scratchpad [20:44:59] Yet this one is: http://joshuarosales.com:7231/localhost/v1/page/html/Fourier_Transform [20:51:15] Any ideas why that may be? [20:51:35] Am I even in the right channel? I get confused between #mediawiki and #wikimedia. [20:52:18] this channel is for help with the software itself; so if you're running your own wiki this is the right place [20:52:29] Oh, good. Thanks. :) [20:52:55] that said, you'll need to be patient; not everyone here is an expert in everything. I have zero experience with restbase so I can't really help you out for instance [20:53:16] I understand. Thanks for clearing that up. [20:54:54] I pulled the latest code through git, updated just about everything. I don't think it's a configuration issue since some work and others don't. I deleted the SQLLite database that it uses, in case it was some caching mistake, but the problem persists. [21:01:25] More info: The page actually does pull up if you go to it. However, when I try to edit it using VisualEditor, the content vanishes, and you're left editing a blank page. [21:02:22] This is the page which doesn't show up: http://joshuarosales.com/wiki/index.php/Scratchpad [21:04:17] joshuar7: you could try #wikimedia-services or https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/ [21:04:50] Ok. I'll do that.