[01:21:49] <biberao>	 hi
[01:22:07] <Urbanecm>	 hi biberao, let's continue our conversation happening in PM here
[01:22:10] <biberao>	 ok
[01:22:21] <biberao>	 like
[01:22:25] <biberao>	 i saw this example
[01:22:30] <biberao>	 https://icannwiki.org/Special:CargoTables/Actor
[01:22:33] <biberao>	 https://icannwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:Actor&action=edit
[01:22:39] <biberao>	 it doesnt do any query
[01:22:49] <biberao>	 so i dont know how to pick up the info
[01:22:50] <biberao>	 ?
[01:22:56] <Urbanecm>	 that's another wiki
[01:23:15] <biberao>	 yes
[01:23:20] <biberao>	 ive been checking examples
[01:23:24] <biberao>	 so see if i can grasp it
[01:23:33] <biberao>	 can you help me an example?
[01:24:21] <Urbanecm>	 docs how to query data from Cargo are on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Querying_data##cargo_query
[01:24:46] <biberao>	 i know that part
[01:24:53] <Urbanecm>	 biberao, can you please tell me exactly what you're trying to do?
[01:25:16] <biberao>	 i have a table with Name team date1 date2
[01:25:34] <Urbanecm>	 link?
[01:25:35] <biberao>	 if i get a player name from that player get the team date1 and date2
[01:25:55] <biberao>	 which link?
[01:26:06] <Urbanecm>	 link to the table
[01:26:32] <biberao>	 i showed you in pm
[01:27:08] <Urbanecm>	 can you edit that wiki?
[01:27:17] <Urbanecm>	 for record, https://lol.esportspedia.com/Special:CargoTables/player_membership is the link
[01:27:17] <biberao>	 yes
[01:28:28] <Urbanecm>	 did you try anything specific to get the data you need? if so, can you link me to that page you tried this on?
[01:30:13] <biberao>	 do i need to add the cargo_query in the same place?
[01:30:24] <Urbanecm>	 in the same place like what?
[01:31:11] <biberao>	 can you  provide me with a working example of a template pulling info
[01:31:20] <biberao>	 where i move the data into other places?
[01:31:59] <Urbanecm>	 i cannot, as I cannot edit the wiki
[01:32:09] <biberao>	 any example
[01:32:11] <Urbanecm>	 also, before I giving examples I'd like to see what you tried
[01:32:14] <biberao>	 it doesnt need to be that one
[01:32:25] <Urbanecm>	 I don't know about any wiki I can edit with Cargo installed 
[01:32:40] <Urbanecm>	 also, before giving examples, I'd like to see what you tried based on the docs
[01:33:27] <biberao>	 {{#cargo_query:
[01:33:27] <biberao>	 tables=Cities
[01:33:27] <biberao>	 |fields=_pageName=City,Population
[01:33:28] <biberao>	 |format=table
[01:33:28] <biberao>	 }}
[01:33:31] <biberao>	 i tried this
[01:33:45] <biberao>	 but instead named it with the table you saw
[01:34:50] <Urbanecm>	 can you please say _exactly_ what you did? ideally with a link to the wiki
[01:37:38] <biberao>	 i cant find anything now
[01:38:44] <Urbanecm>	 ...
[01:39:58] <biberao>	 provide me an example please?
[01:41:35] <Urbanecm>	 I cannot
[01:41:44] <Urbanecm>	 a) you didn't demonstrate you tried something on your own
[01:42:00] <Urbanecm>	 b) I don't know about any publicly-editable wiki (I don't have access to wikis you linked) with Cargo installed
[01:42:25] <Urbanecm>	 also, it's almost 3 am here
[01:42:31] <Urbanecm>	 I'm going to sleep now
[06:23:09] <c>	 is MariaDB 10.2 ok for mediawiki prod ?
[11:24:50] <Antarez>	 ls
[13:25:18] <biberao>	 Urbanecm: fixed it :D
[14:34:31] <hexmode>	 Has anyone gotten the LuaSandbox extension working on Windows?
[14:38:35] <biberao>	 not me sorry
[15:27:33] <c>	 is MariaDB 10.2 ok for mediawiki prod ?
[15:27:44] <hexmode>	 yes
[15:27:59] <c>	 i wondered since WMF is still on 10.1
[15:28:13] <c>	 if there was a reason they haven't upgraded
[15:28:21] <teward>	 inertia maybe?
[15:28:32] <hexmode>	 Using the distribution version,probably
[15:28:36] <teward>	 it's not always best to update production systems to the "latest and greatest" immediately.
[15:28:39] <teward>	 also inertia :p
[15:28:57] <hexmode>	 And distro's lag
[18:32:47] <balance>	 so if /var/www is my root and I have a "vhost (nginx) which points to lets say /var/www/mediawiki, that's fine or not? yesterday someone said I can't install it directly in the root. but I cant find it anywhere in the docs
[18:33:21] <Reedy_>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory
[18:38:06] <balance>	 Reedy_, where in the installation guide is that stated?
[18:44:20] <Reedy_>	 "Why, or why not, to use the root directory of a Web site as the wiki directory."
[18:44:26] <Reedy_>	 "Reasons why putting wiki pages in the root directory of the web site is bad"
[18:44:31] <Platonides>	 balance: if you think we should note something in some place we didn0t think of, feel free to suggest it
[18:45:35] <balance>	 Platonides, nah, yesterday someone (not here) told me it's said in the installation guide. was just wondering. that's it. I'll suggest it if I see a good reason
[18:46:24] <Platonides>	 balance: we are so used to how things are that barely need to look at install instructions
[18:46:47] <Platonides>	 not to mention that it is hard to notice that soemthing is confusing if you already know what it is attempting to say
[20:32:57] <Trela>	 "You need special rules for "robots.txt" or "favicon.ico", also for all wiki support files like skin images, extensions that load content from the "/extensions/" folder (such as CSS, JS, or images), and root scripts like api.php, thumb.php, and image_auth.php."
[20:33:05] <Trela>	 That is not even true.  :O
[20:33:32] <Skizzerz>	 sure it is
[20:33:57] <Skizzerz>	 your special rule might be "serve a file if the file exists on disk" but it's still an extra step you don't need if you're not rewriting to a dir that actually exists
[20:34:30] <Trela>	 That is not a special rule.  PHP files get passed to the CGI handler and everything else is pass through.
[20:35:02] <Trela>	 Which are rules that will have to be written regardless of the URL structure.
[20:37:45] <Skizzerz>	 if you're mapping /wiki/* to /w/index.php?title=*, you don't need such rules
[20:37:59] <Skizzerz>	 since /wiki doesn't exist on disk, so you know 100% of hits will be routed as a page name
[20:38:27] <Skizzerz>	 in any case, if the filesystem and your article paths collide, you can't name any articles after files which exist on disk
[20:39:02] <Skizzerz>	 so you can't have a page named [[Extensions]], for instance, because it clashes with /extensions
[20:39:57] <Skizzerz>	 (there's ways to make it work, but they're fragile; it technically does work by default on linux since the filesystem is case-sensitive)
[20:40:25] <Trela>	 @Skizzerz: https://meeseeks.gamepedia.com/Extensions
[20:40:57] <Skizzerz>	 did you read what I wrote afterwards?
[20:41:20] <Trela>	 Yes.  No special rules required.
[20:41:30] <Skizzerz>	 do you work for Gamepedia?
[20:41:39] <Trela>	 Yes.
[20:41:47] <Trela>	 <-- Alexia
[20:43:04] <Skizzerz>	 in any case, it seems you do have rules in place to handle things
[20:43:21] <Skizzerz>	 the rules aren't difficult, but it is an extra step that trips up a lot of people, hence why it isn't generally recommended
[20:43:31] <Trela>	 It is frustrating reading the same things over and over again when I proved it was possible to do these things six years ago without a lot of conflict or issues.
[20:46:21] <Skizzerz>	 anyway, great it works for you. In my experience, I've seen it cause issues for lots of other people, to the point where even though I run such a setup myself I wouldn't recommend it to anyone that wasn't already comfortable being a sysadmin
[21:01:35] <biberao>	 hi
[21:03:06] <biberao>	 Using Cargo im not actually to populate the cargo table...im using the template i used for store and declare Template:Bla... so i did a {{bla|name=ble|something=blo}} doesnt populate, ideas?